14:20:00 <dougwig> #startmeeting neutron lbaas 14:20:01 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 23 14:20:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:20:03 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:20:06 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' 14:20:07 <dougwig> standby, folks 14:20:10 <sbalukoff> Haha! 14:20:12 <dougwig> agenda 14:20:14 <dougwig> #link #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Meeting_23.10.2014 14:20:18 <dougwig> #topic Announcements 14:20:21 <dougwig> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews 14:20:24 <dougwig> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123468/ 14:20:28 <dougwig> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics-distilled 14:20:42 <dougwig> #topic lbaas ref driver - add agent, or octavia? 14:20:43 <ptoohill> Fair enough if thats the case, I wont abandon it yet but will focus on Octavia till we have clear path forward regarding the ref impl. 14:20:44 <dougwig> ok, go 14:21:30 <dougwig> i don't think this decision changes our focus; most of us should still be working on octavia. 14:22:35 <TrevorV_> agreed dougshelley66 14:22:35 <blogan> if we can get v2 into K by updating the agent and current ref impl, is it worth it to do it then? 14:22:39 <TrevorV_> dougwig: * 14:22:42 <ptoohill> Well yea, but there is some changes that would need to be done to get the 'current' ref impl updated and could knock those out early as possible if we were going that route. 14:22:53 <ptoohill> Just wanted to clarify things is all 14:23:21 <dougwig> my sense is that it's not a huge amount of work to get it back with an agent. am i wrong on that? 14:23:33 <blogan> not huge, but still a decent amount 14:23:59 <ptoohill> also waiting on the barbican interface/workflow to be 'finalized' 14:24:38 <blogan> another question 14:24:44 <blogan> will the octavia driver use the agent? 14:25:11 <dougwig> will its rest api be async? 14:25:16 <blogan> yes 14:25:38 <blogan> but that doesn't mean we have to use the agent 14:25:49 <dougwig> then it depends on whether we put the final status update in a neutron agent or inside octavia? 14:26:46 <blogan> well neutron lbaas is definitely going to need to know about the final status update 14:27:14 <blogan> i just think the agent is overkill, and an extra queue we don't need to go over 14:27:30 <blogan> so the driver can spin up threads 14:27:40 <xgerman> as I said earlier we should focus on Octavia and just let it land when we are ready 14:27:53 <dougwig> right. which we can either do with an eventlet "agent" inside the neutron-server where the driver was called, as a separate agent, or inside octavia. a separate neutron agent seems the least clean of all of those solutions. 14:28:05 <ptoohill> Which may not be till L ? 14:28:13 <xgerman> I am ok with that 14:28:19 <ptoohill> fair enough 14:28:23 <xgerman> (we got new directions) 14:28:35 <blogan> xgerman: oh really? 14:28:52 <dougwig> xgerman: agree, but i'm happy with focusing on neutron lbaas during the neutron lbaas meeting. :) 14:29:02 <xgerman> :-) 14:29:03 <ptoohill> If thats the case then we wouldnt have to worry about the agent updates which would be the 'bigger' chunk of work for the current ref impl 14:29:11 <blogan> xgerman: new directions that will take you off of octavia? 14:29:44 <xgerman> no, we are just more comfortable with stuff in stackforge as opposed to opesntack 14:29:46 <dougwig> or new directions that you aren't so strict "must be openstack" ? 14:29:50 <dougwig> ahh, nice. 14:29:53 <xgerman> yep, that one 14:29:56 <blogan> well thats a total 180 14:29:58 <sbalukoff> xgerman: Oh, that is new. 14:30:18 <xgerman> yep 14:30:21 <blogan> watch Rackspace become strict about it being openstack now 14:30:26 <xgerman> lol 14:30:40 <sbalukoff> Haha 14:30:48 <dougwig> blogan: split off all of your unprofitable consumer baggage and maybe some of your priorities will change too. 14:30:59 <dougwig> :) 14:31:04 <blogan> lol 14:31:22 <dougwig> maybe they can call the new PC division "Compaq". 14:31:33 <sbalukoff> Haha! 14:31:41 <xgerman> and us DEC? 14:32:07 <dougwig> only if you're running hp cloud on titaniums. 14:32:10 <dougwig> itaniums 14:32:20 <xgerman> ;-) 14:32:31 <dougwig> auto-correct didn't want to acknowledge that processors existence 14:32:45 <dougwig> ok, i've got us in the weeds... 14:32:50 <johnsom> Hey, Itanium had some good ideas.... 14:32:50 <dougwig> #topic Open discussion 14:33:03 <dougwig> anything else for today/ 14:33:04 <dougwig> ? 14:33:13 <ptoohill> Im on way in, dropping the line. Later guys! 14:33:23 <dougwig> ptoohill: later 14:33:38 <blogan> methinks we're done 14:33:44 <dougwig> alright, if nothing else, let's get out of here early 14:33:46 <dougwig> going once... 14:34:02 <dougwig> going twice... 14:34:15 <sbalukoff> Yay! Back to bed! 14:34:22 <TrevorV_> lulz 14:34:24 <blogan> time change is soon 14:34:26 <TrevorV_> \o 14:34:31 <blogan> this will be even earlier 14:34:32 <xgerman> bye 14:34:38 <dougwig> #endmeeting