21:14:30 #startmeeting nova 21:14:31 Meeting started Thu Sep 27 21:14:30 2012 UTC. The chair is vishy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:14:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:14:33 The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 21:14:41 russellb: is there an easy way to sort on component? 21:14:44 (well 3 bugs actually) 21:14:52 sdague: click the header 21:14:53 never mind 21:14:59 yep, just figured that out :) 21:15:03 :-p 21:15:08 hey 21:15:39 actually 19 submissions ... 2 were put in twice 21:15:46 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Nova 21:15:58 #topic Folsom Celebration 21:16:03 \o/ 21:16:05 we released 21:16:08 * sdague pops champagne 21:16:18 <("<) ^("^) (^")^ (>")> 21:16:21 yay 21:16:27 * markmc pours himself a whiskey 21:16:56 * sdague thinks markmc should bring some to summit 21:17:18 #topic Summit Planning 21:17:26 who has a link handy to the proposals page? 21:17:31 http://summit.openstack.org/ 21:17:37 #link http://summit.openstack.org/ 21:18:46 the non-design summit schedule is pretty packed btw 21:18:49 #link http://openstacksummitfall2012.sched.org/ 21:19:09 i haven't even started looking at them yet 21:19:11 http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/4 21:19:16 but help reviewing would be great 21:19:25 does anyone else have the ability to review stuff? 21:19:33 it's forbidden for me 21:19:35 that link is forbidden for me 21:20:16 Ditto 21:20:21 ok maybe i will try to get ttx to add some permissions so others can help review 21:20:22 markmc can you hit it? 21:20:31 vishy, nope 21:20:36 (wonder if your openstack-common powers gives you help) 21:20:37 vishy, I can just review openstack-common ones 21:20:54 #action vishy to ping ttx about adding other reviewers 21:21:24 can you add private comments when reviewing? 21:22:05 you can add comments that are only visible to reviewers and author 21:22:11 * proposer 21:22:15 ah gotcha. 21:22:56 i don't really have anything else 21:23:05 anyone have cool topics to discuss? 21:23:10 I do 21:23:11 #topic Open Discussion 21:23:13 oh wait.. cool? 21:23:43 I'm headed out of town again tomorrow early, 21:23:47 notably missing is really any API discussions. It seems like we should have some talk about resolving some of the inconsistencies, and what should go into a v3 21:23:51 and mauro needs this for cloudpipe testing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13787/ 21:24:12 We've also kind of failed at hypervisor feature parity 21:24:16 Perhaps we don't care about it any more? 21:26:04 mikal: probably needs someone to step up and push on it 21:26:13 i think that should be an ongoing goal of the project 21:26:44 Yeah, there was talk about it at the last summit, but we haven't actually taken much action 21:26:50 I'm as guilty as the next person 21:26:52 sdague: sounds like something good to discuss, although i don't think we will want to start on v3 until post grizzly 21:26:54 Perhaps we just need a plan 21:26:56 everyone should push it to some degree ... like this bittorrent xen driver patch 21:27:10 vishy: yep, that's fine, there is a lot of inconsistency that needs to be looked at 21:27:26 mikal: more big projects we can talk about than people with the time to do them in a given cycle :) 21:27:30 mikal: a lot of parity has been added for sure, although there is stuff needed 21:28:03 like 200 vs 202 being a little arbitrary, error codes being a little arbitrary. I created a blueprint to try to start tagging things that pop up during sample api testing 21:28:11 mikal: for example: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-block-device-handling 21:28:29 sdague: yep, it would be great to clean up all those response code inconsistencies 21:28:33 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/v2-api-inconsistencies 21:28:34 sdague: so i guess it would be good to have a session about what to do in the meantime 21:28:39 as in do we do v 2.5 21:28:57 or way scaled down 3.0 that is just consistency and nothing else 21:29:16 vishy: yes, perhaps we can call it a clarifying API. No new function, just changes for consistency 21:29:17 the consensus seemed to be that response code changes would need a v3.0 21:29:26 if we do backwards incompat changes it probably has to be 3.0 21:29:30 even if no new features 21:29:33 eglynn: the number isn't really important 21:29:44 eglynn: it is more the scope of changes i was referring to 21:30:00 vishy: got it 21:30:05 markmc: are we moving extensions into core/ deprecating useless stuff like personalities etc. 21:30:07 as soon as you open the door for 3.0, though 21:30:17 folks will ... 21:30:19 markmc: yeah, that is why i wanted to call it 2.5 :| 21:30:22 markmc: well, unless you hold the door hard :) 21:30:28 that's what I was about to say 21:30:35 vishy, the number isn't important :-P 21:30:45 zing 21:30:56 we could call ig 2.01 and then at the last minute change it to 3.0 21:30:58 ! 21:31:10 now there's a cunning plan 21:31:18 * vishy goes to delete the irc logs 21:32:01 homework for next week 21:32:15 Heh 21:32:17 come up with important summit sessions so we can discuss what is still missing 21:33:27 cake is missing 21:33:34 it's a lie 21:35:25 ok we're done 21:35:28 thanks everyone 21:35:32 #endmeeting nova