21:00:17 <russellb> #startmeeting nova 21:00:17 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jul 25 21:00:17 2013 UTC. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:18 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:21 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 21:00:21 <russellb> hello, everyone! 21:00:24 <mikal> Hi 21:00:24 <mriedem> hi 21:00:26 <dansmith> yo 21:00:29 <cyeoh> hi 21:00:31 * geekinutah waves 21:00:41 <mrodden> hi 21:00:42 <russellb> happy thursday (or friday) 21:00:51 <n0ano> o/ 21:00:53 <alaski> hi 21:00:59 <jog0> o/ 21:01:05 <russellb> so I figure we'll spend most of the time going through havana-3 stuff, kind of like we did last week 21:01:07 <comstud> o/ 21:01:13 <russellb> but one thing i wanted to mention first 21:01:17 <russellb> #topic nova wiki pages 21:01:24 <bnemec> o/ 21:01:27 <russellb> i started working on a couple of wiki pages this week 21:01:34 <russellb> and i could use help on them, especially the 2nd one 21:01:43 <russellb> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/CoreTeam 21:01:50 <russellb> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReviewChecklist 21:02:03 <russellb> so, first one i'm trying to write down what the core team is, and what's expected of the members 21:02:16 <russellb> because i'm not sure it's really written down anywhere ... 21:02:25 <jog0> ideally that should be very similar to other core teams 21:02:28 <vishy> hi 21:02:33 <russellb> so just trying to be more explicit, but would like feedback on anything missing 21:02:43 <russellb> and the second page i'd like everyone's help with filling in 21:03:01 <russellb> goal being that we try to improve our consistency in reviews by writing down things to look for 21:03:46 <russellb> jog0: yep, and maybe the page becomes more generic once it's fleshed out. i can post to the -dev list 21:03:58 <jog0> russellb: ++ to all of the above 21:04:07 <sdague> there should also be some extra care when looking at db migrations 21:04:13 <mikal> Sounds like a good idea to me 21:04:14 <sdague> that's probably worth calling out 21:04:17 <russellb> sdague: +1 21:04:36 <russellb> alright, on to havana-3 21:04:40 <russellb> #topic havana-3 21:04:48 <russellb> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-3 21:05:04 <russellb> 93 blueprints, 2 marked as implemented so far. 21:05:26 <russellb> so let's just crank through what we can 21:05:47 <russellb> comstud: alaski: think you can get the cells job working by havana? 21:05:57 <russellb> right now we have it as a high priority blueprint 21:06:34 <russellb> hrm 21:06:35 <alaski> I think it's reasonable to get it running a subset of tests 21:06:36 <comstud> yeah 21:06:44 <russellb> k 21:06:46 <dansmith> that would be awesome 21:06:52 <sdague> it would be good to get it over the devstack exercises rsn 21:06:59 <comstud> yeah 21:07:05 <comstud> that's on my list now that i'm back home 21:07:06 <sdague> because we don't really know what the shape of tempest is 21:07:23 <russellb> might end up having to scope this to fixing devstack exercises 21:07:33 <russellb> because at least then, even non-voting with some tempest failures, it's useful 21:07:44 <sdague> realistically cells just aren't being configured in devstack right now from what I can tell 21:07:44 <russellb> whereas with where it fails now, not so much 21:07:49 <comstud> there seems to be a basic problem in getting any build to work 21:07:51 <comstud> from what I can tell 21:08:01 <russellb> yeah, maybe i screwed it up 21:08:02 <sdague> the exercises just die because nova dies on anything 21:08:04 <russellb> i haven't really had a chance to dig 21:08:15 <russellb> cells seemed to work with that config for me 21:08:19 <alaski> I started to dig and got sidetracked. I'll spend time with it tomorrow 21:08:20 <sdague> I think they'll work once devstack is fixed 21:08:21 <comstud> The config seems okay 21:08:32 <russellb> ok, cool 21:08:43 <sdague> realize there are enough things coming down with devstack-gate that it's not quite a local devstack config 21:08:46 <russellb> i think we should definitely aim for having it get pass devstack exercises and into tempest 21:09:00 <russellb> sdague: yeah, and i didn't test it that way 21:09:21 <russellb> joel-coffman: around? 21:09:30 <jog0> openstack-infra is working on documenting devstack-gate better 21:09:56 <joel-coffman> yep 21:10:24 <russellb> joel-coffman: how goes encrypted cinder volumes? 21:10:31 <russellb> joel-coffman: i marked it as blocked on the cinder side 21:10:43 <joel-coffman> thanks, that's still the current status 21:10:49 <russellb> k 21:10:58 <russellb> next is a volume weighter function ... 21:11:05 <russellb> shouldn't be hard to get in 21:11:05 <joel-coffman> we're flushing out a few bugs and will resubmit the Cinder patch next week 21:11:13 <russellb> joel-coffman: ok cool 21:11:19 <russellb> joel-coffman: let me know if anything changes 21:11:24 <russellb> comstud: direct mysql? 21:11:34 <russellb> still optimistic for h-3 ? 21:11:42 <comstud> optimistic... maybe overly 21:11:47 <comstud> but still optimistic 21:11:58 <russellb> well we have way too much, if it's something we can punt, let's do it 21:12:16 <comstud> let's revisit next week after I can have time to think 21:12:18 <russellb> ok 21:12:19 <russellb> heh 21:12:22 <comstud> :) 21:12:42 <russellb> mikal: any progress on libvirt console logging? 21:12:58 <mikal> russellb: i got bogged down on reviews for instance delete 21:13:02 <mikal> So no 21:13:09 <russellb> k 21:13:30 <russellb> oh, i forgot to link to my havana-3 openstack-dev email 21:13:32 <russellb> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-July/012323.html 21:13:56 <russellb> cyeoh: v3 api status? we moved some of it to Icehouse already 21:14:27 <cyeoh> doing cleanup work post-h2 merge. Most of the focus is moving to testing and docs now 21:14:41 <cyeoh> there are going to be a *lot* of api sample patches going through at some stage 21:14:46 <russellb> all remaining extensions up for review? 21:15:02 <cyeoh> I was thinking of batching them up to help with the review load but they will be largish (just the nature of api samples) 21:15:16 <annegentle> cyeoh: I did hear from Kersten this morning about docs, thanks for that. 21:15:32 <russellb> ok, sounds good 21:15:37 <cyeoh> the extensions are in review, there are a handful of things to demote from core though 21:15:42 <cyeoh> but nothing big there 21:15:59 <cyeoh> annegentle: oh excellent - trying to work out how we can automate the process 21:16:01 <russellb> ok, will try to find the ones demoting things for core 21:16:18 <cyeoh> as there is currently a lot of manual work involved 21:16:27 <annegentle> cyeoh: yes it'll be great to get it automated 21:16:45 <annegentle> russellb: I invited her to Docs boot camp 21:16:48 <cyeoh> russellb: oh I meant there are a handful of ones for demotion from core that need to be written still... (eg they are merged, just as core instead of as an extension) 21:17:03 <russellb> annegentle: awesome 21:17:21 <russellb> annegentle: speaking of docs bootcamp, i reached out to some of the nova folks to see who might want to come ... no bites yet 21:17:27 <russellb> annegentle: s/want/can/ 21:17:38 <russellb> would really like to have a nova rep though 21:17:41 <vishy> cyeoh: is the plan to remove some of the extensions that just extend other extensions? 21:17:57 <vishy> * er combine would be a better word 21:17:58 <annegentle> russellb: yep, ok thanks 21:18:03 <cyeoh> vishy: yes I think we've caught all of the ones that are just dummy placeholder ones 21:18:18 <dansmith> well, some function is being promoted too, right? 21:18:22 <cyeoh> vishy: and some of the others which are plainly just there because that was the only way to extend extensions 21:18:33 <vishy> cyeoh: cool I could use a link to the info about how to convert v2 to v3 since i need to do it for volume-swap 21:18:36 <cyeoh> vishy: but if you know of any others that you think should be merged, please let us know 21:18:52 <russellb> vishy: a straight conversion is pretty easy 21:18:58 <russellb> vishy: tons of examples that have been merged 21:19:05 <russellb> vishy: search for "part 1" and "part 2" commits 21:19:13 <cyeoh> vishy, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/PortingAPIExtensionToV3 covers most of it 21:19:14 <vishy> russellb: ok cool thx 21:19:49 <cyeoh> vishy: though yea looking at examples will probably tell you more :-) 21:19:49 <russellb> vishy: not sure if you caught it last week, but we decided we're pushing off finalization of v3 to Icehouse 21:20:08 <russellb> so we'll have it as experimental in Havana, and will tighten it up for Icehouse 21:20:36 <russellb> ok, so before I just keep going down the list, any specific blueprints anyone would like to discuss? 21:20:42 <cyeoh> we kind of need to work out when we will gate on v3 api tempest tests too as just adding them will blow out the test time (unless we have another vm) 21:20:57 <dansmith> boo 21:21:03 <russellb> dansmith: boo what 21:21:11 <dansmith> boo making the gate slower :P 21:21:15 <russellb> oh 21:21:22 <russellb> isn't there a tempest testr job now? heh 21:21:26 <dansmith> I'm just being silly 21:21:45 * russellb nods 21:21:46 <dansmith> it does suck to have to create and destroy twice as many guests, but .. 21:22:08 <russellb> MOAR jobs! 21:22:43 <russellb> so any specific blueprints or bugs anyone wants to provide an update on? 21:22:45 <mriedem> russellb: just fyi that i'm told a patch will be up for this before end of week: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/powervm-configdrive 21:22:53 <sdague> so the testr job could also use some help in debug. Most of the races are nova things we've tripped up. And it's a mix of tempest and nova bugs from what we can see. 21:23:07 <russellb> mriedem: ok, blueprint says "not started", could use an update 21:23:45 <mriedem> russellb: does launchpad change status when a patch is pushed for it like it does for bugs? 21:23:51 <russellb> mriedem: only bugs 21:23:53 <russellb> blueprints are manual 21:24:01 <mriedem> russellb: ok, i'll let david know 21:24:03 <russellb> it's thrilling. 21:24:34 <russellb> ok, well if nobody has specific blueprints they want to discuss, we can move to open discussion 21:24:48 <russellb> in general, i'm going to have to start aggressively pushing things out to Icehouse that don't look like they have progress 21:25:00 <russellb> #topic open discussion 21:25:06 <russellb> so what else is going on? 21:25:27 <dansmith> I have seen a bug a couple times, 21:25:33 <dansmith> once locally and in jenkins a bit: 21:25:34 <dansmith> http://logs.openstack.org/63/36363/17/check/gate-nova-python26/29748/console.html 21:25:40 <dansmith> anyone else seeing that? 21:25:48 <jog0> dansmith: yup 21:25:51 <jog0> was gonna say the same thing 21:25:55 <dansmith> okay, didn't see a bug for it 21:25:58 <clarkb> dansmith: there is a bug that was opened against openstack-ci 21:26:03 <clarkb> dansmith: let me find it so it can be moved to nova 21:26:09 <dansmith> ah, okay 21:26:29 <russellb> clarkb: highlight on "jenkins" ? heh 21:26:32 <clarkb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1205022 21:26:33 <dansmith> heh 21:26:33 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1205022 in openstack-ci "gate-nova-python26 fails build" [Undecided,New] 21:26:44 <jog0> I saw it for py27 to I think 21:27:15 <jog0> yeah http://logs.openstack.org/36/36436/5/check/gate-nova-python27/29937/console.html.gz 21:28:12 <bnemec> I saw that locally too. 21:28:22 * dansmith blames comstud 21:28:25 <russellb> well then 21:28:33 <russellb> who's going to fix it? :-) 21:28:45 <dansmith> the bug tracker really needs a "to-blame" field 21:29:01 <mrodden> make a tag 21:29:05 <mrodden> blame-comstud 21:29:09 <dansmith> heh 21:29:12 <dansmith> I'll look at it 21:29:17 <clarkb> dansmith: is that so that bugs opened against nova can be blamed on infra? 21:29:32 <dansmith> it's instance-related so it's *possible* it's objects related, but I doubt it, given its location 21:29:44 <dansmith> clarkb: no, we could even hard-code the field to be "comstud" for all I care :P 21:30:39 <jog0> I am unable to produce it locally 21:30:44 <dansmith> I saw it once 21:30:50 <bnemec> It's inconsistent. 21:31:00 <bnemec> One time I got two failures, the next none, the next only one. 21:31:12 <jog0> this may be python version related 21:32:39 <russellb> dragondm: around? i haven't heard/seen anything on versioning notifications 21:32:53 <russellb> dragondm: have tried to ping a few times :-/ 21:33:30 <dragondm> ah, yah, that's been sidelined for awhile, because of other, more pressing work. 21:33:41 <russellb> dragondm: ok, so should I just push it off to Icehouse? 21:34:18 <dragondm> yah, for now 21:34:21 <russellb> dragondm: ok, thanks 21:34:38 <comstud> wait, wut!? i didn't do nothin'. 21:34:46 <russellb> alright any other topics before i shut down the meeting? 21:35:23 <russellb> alrighty then 21:35:24 <russellb> thanks! 21:35:25 <russellb> #endmeeting