21:00:19 <russellb> #startmeeting nova
21:00:20 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 22 21:00:19 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:22 <russellb> Hello, everyone!
21:00:24 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:00:25 <mikal> Morning
21:00:28 <dansmith> yo
21:00:34 <mriedem> hi
21:00:37 <russellb> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova
21:00:38 <bnemec> o/
21:00:47 <russellb> #topic havana-3
21:00:53 <russellb> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-3
21:00:59 <russellb> we have reached the feature proposal freeze
21:01:07 <russellb> feature freeze (merge deadline) is in 2 weeks
21:01:12 <russellb> there is a _lot_ of stuff to review
21:01:23 <mikal> Have we defined an exception process for the proposal freeze?
21:01:24 <russellb> so, i'll go ahead and assume that everyone here would really like review attention on something :-)
21:01:26 <russellb> yes
21:01:39 <russellb> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze
21:01:52 <russellb> if someone requests an exception, they, or someone, will probably have to make sure i see it
21:01:55 <russellb> given the volume of stuff we have
21:02:08 <mikal> That's fair
21:02:12 <cyeoh> hi
21:02:37 <russellb> other than "please please review my stuff", does anyone have any questions, or topics around havana-3 that you would like to go over?
21:03:19 <mrodden> is the crazy amount of weird gate failures going to affect any release timeline dates?
21:03:30 <russellb> my notes on the freeze from this morning:
21:03:32 <russellb> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/014114.html
21:03:40 <russellb> mrodden: doubtful
21:03:42 <mrodden> oh, didn't see that
21:04:18 <russellb> mrodden: the turbulance and risk approaching the freeze is pretty much expected
21:04:33 <russellb> if something really really bad happens *right* before the freeze, it could get extended a day or something
21:04:39 <russellb> but i wouldn't expect any extensions
21:04:44 <mrodden> ok
21:04:54 <russellb> just remember the next release is only 6 months later, not forever :-)
21:05:39 <russellb> any other havana-3 related questions or concerns?
21:06:16 <russellb> ok
21:06:18 <russellb> #topic sub-team reports
21:06:25 <russellb> any subteams have updates they'd like to provide?
21:06:44 <hartsocks> \0
21:06:53 <russellb> hartsocks: go for it
21:07:05 <johnthetubaguy> nothing much from xenapi, smokestack getting closer to being a gate, and progress towards a tempest gate
21:07:21 <hartsocks> We've got our 6 *priority* BP we're pushing for reviews amongst ourselves.
21:07:25 <russellb> johnthetubaguy: thanks!
21:07:39 <hartsocks> Then I mail the list when we get things ready for core-review.
21:07:52 <hartsocks> We're just getting our CI stuff running but ...
21:08:06 <hartsocks> we're not ready to publish results just yet.
21:08:11 <hartsocks> Soon.
21:08:17 <russellb> plan is to eventually make it public though right?
21:08:23 <hartsocks> Definitely.
21:08:32 <russellb> what would be most awesome is acting like smokestack does today
21:08:45 <russellb> a 3rd party system providing test votes in gerrit
21:08:49 <hartsocks> In the interim while the CI team is nailing that down… we may post a −1 and a link to a cut-and-paste log.
21:09:00 <russellb> sure, that works too
21:09:05 <russellb> baby steps :)
21:09:07 <dansmith> that's awesaome
21:09:09 <hartsocks> Hopefully, we won't do that for long.
21:09:10 <dansmith> er, awesome even
21:09:15 <dims> nice
21:09:16 <russellb> definitely
21:09:22 <hartsocks> Yep.
21:09:22 <johnthetubaguy> +1 sounds good
21:09:24 <russellb> test all the things!
21:09:41 <hartsocks> That's the big news for us.
21:09:46 <russellb> great thanks!
21:09:47 <russellb> any others?
21:10:17 <russellb> #topic open discussion
21:10:25 <russellb> figured it might be quick today, busy review rush right now
21:10:31 <russellb> anything for open discussion?
21:10:56 <bpb> russellb: Cinder volume encryption is no longer blocked by Cinder change, so can the priority be moved back to high? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/encrypt-cinder-volumes
21:10:56 <cyeoh> I typed too slow earlier - just wondering if you consider adding api samples for the v3 api to be a new feature or not?
21:11:31 <shanewang1> russellb: regarding the timeline dates, we should have enough time when the patches are reviewed by nova cores, right?
21:11:44 <mikal> cyeoh: I think missing API samples sounds like a bug...
21:11:52 <russellb> yeah i think tests are fine ...
21:11:56 <russellb> bpb: *looking*
21:12:08 <cyeoh> mikal, russellb: cool :-)
21:12:09 <russellb> shanewang1: honestly, not everything is going to make it.  it's too much right here at the end.  it's not going to be possible.
21:12:12 <bpb> russellb:  Thanks!
21:12:40 <russellb> bpb: done!
21:12:41 <johnthetubaguy> cyeoh: +1, well sounds like docs and that quite good to do post feature freeze, I guess?
21:12:45 <russellb> bpb: really happy to see this progress
21:12:52 <russellb> bpb: and your nova patch got reviewed by vish already, that's great
21:12:56 <russellb> so should make it seems like
21:13:17 <bpb> russellb: Yes, lots of work and also support from others
21:13:22 <russellb> bpb: ndipanov would be another good nova-core guy to review this
21:13:33 <cyeoh> johnthetubaguy: I hope so, worst case we do something unofficial out of tree first for the v3 api first, but of course I'd prefer it merged asap.
21:13:49 <bpb> russellb: thanks
21:14:16 <russellb> bpb: i added ndipanov to the review, i'll see if i can talk to him about reviewing it
21:14:29 <bpb> russellb: great!
21:14:40 <shanewang1> yeah, I am worrying that there is no enough time to revise the patches. Only 2 weeks left. hopefully I am wrong, or the freeze date doesn't work if the patches are under revising:)
21:15:02 <russellb> shanewang1: ideally it's close to ready and won't need much revising
21:15:14 <russellb> if so, won't make it
21:15:26 <shanewang1> ok
21:15:31 <russellb> honestly, with or without a freeze, only leaving a couple weeks is a really high risk
21:15:37 <russellb> i have code at risk too :-)
21:15:59 <russellb> i'm just trying to set realistic expectations here
21:16:17 <shanewang1> because my patch was there and has never been reviewed by cores, hopefully they are not a surprise to everyone:)
21:16:25 <shanewang1> I understand.
21:16:39 * russellb nods
21:16:46 <russellb> which one
21:17:37 <shanewang1> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/ubs,n,z
21:18:04 <shanewang1> and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:pci-passthrough-enhancement,n,z, the latter looks better.
21:18:04 <russellb> ah yes
21:18:10 <shanewang1> some cores are interested in them.
21:18:48 <russellb> any other topics?  otherwise we'll get back to hacking/reviewing
21:18:57 <mriedem> jan/feb meetup in minneapolis!
21:19:01 <mriedem> dead of winter!
21:19:04 <russellb> haha
21:19:07 <bnemec> lol
21:19:07 <mriedem> c'mon
21:19:09 <russellb> no promises on location
21:19:19 <russellb> i have a potential offer for hosting
21:19:22 <russellb> i won't out them yet
21:19:29 <russellb> but it'll be based on where we can get free space to do it
21:19:36 <mikal> Hawaii!
21:19:42 <hartsocks> +1
21:19:42 <mikal> Beaches are free
21:19:44 <russellb> mikal: that would be amazing, i've never been :-)
21:19:47 <yjiang5> +1 for Hawaii
21:19:54 <mikal> I am sure VMWare has an office in Hawaii...
21:19:57 <yjiang5> it will be better if Havana release in Hawaii
21:20:12 <johnthetubaguy> lol, took the works out of my keyboard
21:20:12 <johnthetubaguy> doh, words
21:20:13 <russellb> if you're wondering what we're talking about
21:20:14 <hartsocks> If there's a VMware office in Hawaii it's a secret.
21:20:17 <russellb> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/013930.html
21:20:25 <russellb> please indicate your interest in a mid-cycle meetup there ^^^
21:20:39 <russellb> i'm trying to get a rough feel if planning for ~100 people or less is sufficient
21:20:46 <russellb> seems like it so far
21:21:39 <yjiang5> how to define ATC?
21:21:45 <russellb> Active Technical Contributor
21:21:54 <russellb> for nova it means, have you submitted patches that have been accepted
21:22:09 <yjiang5> great, so I am :)
21:22:23 <russellb> the same rules used to define whether you're able to vote in nova elections
21:22:25 <dansmith> yjiang5: objects contributors will get an extra prize
21:22:32 <russellb> the nova PTL election, or TC elections
21:22:43 <shanewang1> cool
21:22:47 <yjiang5> dansmith: lol
21:22:50 <mriedem> dansmith: how about objects bug fixers? :)
21:23:06 <russellb> we'll all be objects bug fixers soon enough, amiright?
21:23:13 <dansmith> mriedem: sure, but powervm maintainers are penalized by funding the prize pool, so it's a wash for you :(
21:23:18 <mriedem> damn
21:23:21 <mrodden> lol
21:23:45 <russellb> alright, thanks for coming by everyone
21:23:55 <russellb> feel free to continue chatting in #openstack-nova, as always
21:23:57 <russellb> #endmeeting