21:00:57 <mikal> #startmeeting nova
21:00:58 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Sep 10 21:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mikal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:00:59 <scottda> hi
21:00:59 <ctrath> o/
21:01:00 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:01:00 <n0ano> o/
21:01:02 <dansmith> o/
21:01:02 <dims> \o/
21:01:02 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:01:08 <mikal> Morning y'all
21:01:16 <edleafe> o/
21:01:17 <melwitt> o/
21:01:20 <cburgess> o/
21:01:23 <mikal> So, the agenda is in the usual place
21:01:25 <rlrossit> o/
21:01:29 <mikal> Let's get going
21:01:30 <mriedem> o/
21:01:35 <mikal> #topic String freeze
21:01:52 <mikal> Has everyone seen John's email about tweaks to the string freeze?
21:02:07 <mriedem> sure, sounds like anything goes until rc1
21:02:20 <mikal> Well, new strings are better than tweaked strings, yes?
21:02:31 <mikal> #url http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073942.html
21:02:33 <melwitt> yes
21:02:59 <mikal> Anyways, just making sure people saw it unless someone has questions
21:03:31 <mikal> #topic Release critical bugs
21:03:44 <mikal> So, we're now at the point where we need to identify bugs which block a release
21:03:55 <mikal> The tag for that is "liberty-rc-potential"
21:04:14 <mikal> Things which are agreed to be release blockers will be targetted to the liberty-rc1 milestone
21:04:20 <jlvillal> o/
21:04:22 <mikal> #url https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/liberty-rc1
21:04:34 <mikal> And then we basically fix those things until they're all fixed, and then release
21:04:55 <mikal> i.e. the more on that list, and the longer they take to fix, the longer we wait before we open Mitaka
21:05:12 <mikal> Comments?
21:05:21 <bauzas> fine to me
21:05:53 <mikal> John is also asking priority teams to track their bugs on the priority tracking etherpad as well
21:05:59 <mikal> But this seems uncontroversial
21:06:03 <mikal> Next topic?
21:06:04 <mriedem> you'd be surprised
21:06:16 <mikal> Well, in the no one has said anything here sense
21:06:28 <mikal> Silence == total happiness, right?
21:06:38 <bauzas> yeah, no netsplit :)
21:06:52 <mikal> Moving on in 3...
21:06:56 <mikal> 2...
21:06:57 <mriedem> go
21:07:01 <mikal> 1...
21:07:03 <bauzas> john was asking to update the etherpad, but we're good
21:07:12 <mikal> #topic Gate status
21:07:17 <mikal> mriedem: its your time to shine
21:07:19 <mriedem> gate was fubar this morning, ok now
21:07:26 <mriedem> reasons are in ML
21:07:43 <mriedem> that's it
21:07:53 <dansmith> s/reasons/who to hate this week/
21:07:58 <mriedem> pyeclib
21:08:08 <mriedem> and g-r
21:08:13 <tonyb> do I have to limit it to only this week?
21:08:20 <mikal> Heh
21:08:25 <mikal> Moving on then?
21:08:28 <mriedem> yeah
21:08:33 <edleafe> tonyb: don't live in the past
21:08:35 <mriedem> i added the 3rd party CI bit
21:08:41 <mikal> #topic 3rd party CI status
21:08:47 <dansmith> they're all broken
21:08:55 <mriedem> mostly as a heads up that there is a dashboard
21:09:07 * mikal clicks the link
21:09:09 <mriedem> but yeah, xenproject ci, hyperv ci, intel pci ci, and probably vmware are out to lunch
21:09:41 <mriedem> which reminds me, i need to add elastic-recheck as a thing for 3rd party ci to the qa meetup agenda for next week
21:09:41 * johnthetubaguy lurks
21:09:48 <mriedem> oh creepy!
21:10:10 <mikal> Hyper-V looks really bad
21:10:14 <johnthetubaguy> I wonder at what point we put log messages in saying the CI is broken during the RC period so we have no idea if this works
21:10:18 <mriedem> ociuhandu: is working on hyper-v ci
21:10:19 <mikal> Ditto VmWare
21:10:25 <krtaylor> there are several dashboards, we are working to consolidate the efforts
21:10:26 <johnthetubaguy> talking generally more than specifically
21:10:34 <dansmith> johnthetubaguy: we can propose those things now,
21:10:36 <mikal> johnthetubaguy: release notes, not log messages
21:10:39 <johnthetubaguy> the Xen stuff is more about bobball being on holiday
21:10:40 <dansmith> and commit them closer if we're worried
21:10:51 <mikal> johnthetubaguy: that's the sort of thing an admin should be warned about explicitly
21:11:03 <johnthetubaguy> mikal: I was thinking both, but yes
21:11:05 <dansmith> mikal: we've historically done log messages
21:11:20 <mikal> I would be happy with both
21:11:26 <mikal> I just think log messages alone isn't enough
21:11:42 <dansmith> mikal: I was going to hire a skywriter for tokyo
21:11:47 <mikal> LOL
21:11:49 <dansmith> but release notes work too I guess
21:12:15 <mikal> Anything else on this topic? Or move on?
21:12:19 <mriedem> move on
21:12:27 <mikal> #topic Critical bugs
21:12:37 <mikal> Which I guess kind of means "release critical bugs" now
21:13:05 <mikal> Of which there are non targetted to liberty-rc1 at the moment
21:13:09 <mikal> none even
21:13:33 <mikal> There are five criticals in the bug tracker
21:13:46 <mriedem> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used
21:13:47 <johnthetubaguy> we should probably target some of those I guess
21:13:47 <mriedem> i see 2
21:14:05 <mikal> I am being shown fix committed / not yet released as well for some reason
21:14:11 <mriedem> ignore those
21:14:14 <mikal> But yeah, two unfixed
21:14:24 <mikal> One tempest, one paste config thing
21:14:34 <mriedem> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1489581 is not critical for nova, dropped it to medium
21:14:35 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1489581 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_create_ebs_image_and_check_boot is race failing" [Medium,Triaged]
21:14:58 <mikal> Ok, cool. Its also unassigned.
21:15:12 <mriedem> the other is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1491511
21:15:13 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1491511 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Behavior change with latest nova paste config" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Xu (xuhj)
21:15:18 <mriedem> which is the bug that keeps on giving
21:15:27 <mikal> johnthetubaguy: do we want to have a go at targetting some of these to liberty-rc1 now, or do you want to do that outside of meetings?
21:16:04 <johnthetubaguy> not sure about using everyones time for that
21:16:21 <mikal> I think in the past we've asked people to propose things here to add?
21:16:26 <johnthetubaguy> we could use the tag for a recommendation system?
21:16:28 <mikal> And then done quick yes / no discussions?
21:16:30 <mriedem> i don't think that 1491511 is critical anymore
21:16:37 <mriedem> sdague was saying the v2.0 compat job was stabilizing now
21:16:41 <dansmith> mikal: johnthetubaguy +1, tag as candidate
21:16:42 <mriedem> and asked about making it voting
21:16:52 <mikal> Ok, that's fair
21:16:52 <johnthetubaguy> dansmith: yeah that scales better
21:17:05 <johnthetubaguy> I think its liberty-rc-proposed or something like that
21:17:09 <mriedem> i just tagged it
21:17:17 <mriedem> liberty-rc-potential
21:17:17 <mikal> And then maybe do some irc channel drivers meeting to convert those to targets
21:17:39 <mikal> Shall we move on?
21:17:43 <mriedem> please
21:17:45 <johnthetubaguy> yeah, see how bad it looks once folks tag
21:17:53 <johnthetubaguy> yeah, moving on
21:17:55 <mikal> #topic Stable branch status
21:18:02 <mikal> I know tonyb has been doing things here?
21:18:29 <mriedem> stable is okish
21:18:34 <mriedem> nothing to report
21:18:51 <mikal> OK
21:18:59 <mikal> #topic Design summit
21:19:10 <mikal> I kind of want John to talk to this one
21:19:21 <mikal> johnthetubaguy: please do that thing
21:19:29 <johnthetubaguy> oh year
21:19:55 <johnthetubaguy> so basically, the current plan is to just setup things like the last two summits
21:20:06 <johnthetubaguy> I am thinking of using a google form to collect ideas
21:20:10 <johnthetubaguy> instead of an etherpad
21:20:22 <johnthetubaguy> so its easier to find out who suggested things
21:20:27 <bauzas> any way to see the proposals ?
21:20:51 <johnthetubaguy> bauzas: yeah, there is a link
21:20:59 <bauzas> oh man, just saw it
21:21:01 <johnthetubaguy> hey, let me find the link to the prototype
21:21:19 <bauzas> that's in the agenda
21:21:22 <bauzas> #link http://goo.gl/forms/D2Qk8XGhZ6
21:21:29 <johnthetubaguy> ah, that was good of me
21:21:43 <johnthetubaguy> do folks think we should open that up for suggestion now
21:21:51 <johnthetubaguy> its tempting to wait to we cut RC1 really
21:22:02 <johnthetubaguy> its really for the next PTL technically
21:22:08 <johnthetubaguy> but you know, get things lined up
21:22:12 <mriedem> seems fine to post now
21:22:17 <mriedem> i was going to add the rootwrap thing from the ML
21:22:23 <johnthetubaguy> cool
21:22:24 <mikal> I think post it
21:22:25 <tonyb> johnthetubaguy: I think now is fine.  There wont be a rush ;P
21:22:30 <mriedem> i'd think we should hash out sessions earlier rather than later
21:22:32 <mikal> It doesn't constraint the new PTL at all
21:22:40 <johnthetubaguy> mikal: agreed
21:22:42 <mikal> constrain even
21:22:52 <johnthetubaguy> cool so I will do an ML post in the morning
21:23:30 <johnthetubaguy> we can move on if there are no questions really
21:23:33 <mikal> Anything else on that one?
21:23:40 <mikal> Have we got an etherpad for the Friday yet?
21:23:44 <johnthetubaguy> we have 14 fishbols and the afternoon
21:23:45 <mikal> Or will that be part of your email?
21:23:53 <johnthetubaguy> mikal: nope, I should add that into that I supose
21:23:58 <mikal> Oh, the Friday is a half day this time?
21:24:07 <johnthetubaguy> oh, I think we have all day actually
21:24:21 <johnthetubaguy> so basically the same, if I understand it correctly
21:24:29 <mikal> Cool
21:24:41 <mikal> Move on then?
21:24:43 <johnthetubaguy> yeah
21:24:55 <mikal> #topic Stuck reviews
21:25:03 <mikal> Noting our definition of stuck please
21:25:12 <mikal> And nothing is listed on the agenda
21:25:19 <mikal> So we're off the hook this time?
21:25:32 <mikal> Going...
21:25:35 <dansmith> yes, go
21:25:37 <mikal> ...going...
21:25:44 <mikal> ...gone
21:25:50 <mikal> #topic Open Discussion
21:25:55 <mikal> Please discuss openly
21:26:27 <mikal> ...or not
21:26:29 <mriedem> so it's kind of a long story but....
21:26:36 <dansmith> NO
21:26:38 <mriedem> ha
21:26:40 <dansmith> hehe
21:26:46 <mriedem> once upon a time...
21:27:01 * mikal puts his finger near the close meeting button...
21:27:10 * dansmith bumps mikal accidentally
21:27:13 <mikal> We're done?
21:27:14 <mriedem> yeah
21:27:16 <mikal> #endmeeting