21:01:02 #startmeeting nova 21:01:03 Meeting started Thu Sep 24 21:01:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:06 o/ 21:01:07 The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 21:01:13 \o 21:01:17 o/ 21:01:23 o/ 21:01:28 i'm not pinging lazy people that don't have calendar reminders 21:01:28 man you're alte by 2mins and mriedem is runnign the thing ;P 21:01:33 o/ 21:01:40 o/ 21:01:41 hi 21:01:42 * mriedem brings up agenda 21:01:57 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova 21:01:59 tonyb: two minutes times the number of people waiting is a lot of minutes 21:02:02 tonyb: sssht, you could unfortunately become a chair 21:02:08 #topic release status 21:02:13 rc1 is out 21:02:19 dansmith: I know I was having technical difficulties 21:02:36 there will be an rc2 for translations and anything critical that missed rc1 21:02:41 afternoon all 21:02:48 tonyb: :) 21:02:54 for anything that should be considered for rc2, add the liberty-rc-potential tag 21:02:58 and scrub these https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential 21:03:08 oh snap. 2/3 are fix committed 21:03:15 so let's remove the potential tag someone plesae on those 21:03:15 mriedem: what's the process for remving that tag? 21:03:22 tonyb: if it's fixed, remove the potential tag 21:03:34 that's what i've been doing anyway 21:03:35 mriedem: what if it's just not rc2 material? 21:03:47 mriedem: bug 1493680 is merged in Mitaka, we need to backport it to RC2 21:03:48 bug 1493680 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "HostState.metrics is no longer a dict" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1493680 - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) 21:03:59 tonyb: then liberty-backport-potential 21:04:03 mriedem: hence the fix committed stuff 21:04:14 mriedem: okay thanks. 21:04:21 bauzas: we can't backport to a tag 21:04:28 and i don't see a stable/liberty branch yet 21:04:33 mriedem: just don't want to irritate people that thought it was rc'ish :/ 21:04:36 hmm 21:04:45 mriedem: it was there last night 21:04:48 well, i thought we'd have a stable/liberty branch for backports 21:04:50 oh 21:05:00 mriedem: there is a stable/libery 21:05:03 not seeing it in github 21:05:05 s/libery/liberty 21:05:06 mriedem: well I think it was done by the release team 21:05:15 https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/stable/liberty 21:05:21 mriedem: given ttx's email 21:05:27 https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/stable/liberty/nova 21:05:28 yeah, ok 21:05:43 mriedem: so yeah, I was about to propose 1493680 for stable/liberty (to be clear) 21:05:48 so liberty-rc-potential for rc2 should be backported to stable/liberty, i believe 21:05:52 do it 21:06:02 Yeah release team created it based after that open Mitaka commit 21:06:11 oh well look who it is 21:06:32 How'd you 21:06:39 #action liberty-rc-potential tagged bugs fixed on master should be backported to stable/liberty 21:06:43 Doh autocorrect 21:06:55 mriedem: okay, the question is still there, how can we tag bugs for being backported to stable/liberty as RC2 candidates ? 21:07:16 bauzas: i think liberty-rc-potential 21:07:16 mriedem: okay thanks, you answered that question :) 21:07:26 bauzas: set the milestone? 21:07:26 until merged in stable/liberty 21:07:35 i don't see an rc2 milestone 21:07:46 tonyb: there are no lib milestones 21:07:53 heh, jinxed again by mriedem 21:08:04 We could target to rc2 milestone I guess, yeah I can get that created 21:08:31 that would be awesome 21:08:55 Give me an action for the morning 21:09:13 #action Johnthetubaguy to create an rc2 milestone 21:09:20 moving on? 21:09:28 +1 21:09:34 Sure 21:09:39 usual reminder for sub-teams to put their bugs on the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking 21:09:55 also, we need to start updating the liberty release notes https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Compute_.28Nova.29 21:10:09 Oops, I should create a new etherpad now 21:10:11 which includes anything tagged as UpgradeImpact during liberty 21:10:30 there are also quite a few things probably tagged with DocImpact that are really meant for release note updates 21:10:41 Yeah 21:10:42 we can query gerrit for that stuff though, i could do that tomorrow 21:10:55 #action mriedem to get the list of docimpact/upgradeimpact commits for release notes 21:11:00 That would be awesome, thank you 21:11:16 we should get better about just doing those once the changes land 21:11:25 so we don't have to remind ourselves of the last 6 months 21:11:31 +1 21:11:48 # mitaka release process and specs 21:11:50 oops 21:11:54 #topic mitaka release process and specs 21:12:14 i guess there is an etherpad started here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking 21:12:16 Oh, quick thing, need Liberty blueprint summary, I may so that 21:12:39 Yeah, idea is to spot important stuff 21:12:47 And get that soon 21:13:05 you mean for this mitaka etherpad? 21:13:06 And stop stuff that needs summit, etc 21:13:15 Oops, find stuff 21:13:32 Yeah, sorry, for that etherpad 21:13:46 ok 21:13:52 so i haven't really started reviewing specs 21:13:59 but yeah people can get started on those 21:14:08 and remember to do the previously-approved thing 21:14:18 Basically submit specs now, let's try merge before the summit where we can 21:14:31 I've done a bunch today 21:14:47 i thought i noticed a bunch of -1... 21:14:59 heh 21:15:06 Cool, I hit a few yesterday 21:15:09 also, ping cores to remove -2 once the bits are place for mitaka, e.g. bp's and specs are approved 21:15:23 moving on? 21:15:29 #topic bugs 21:15:40 We need spec less bp process, but yeah, later for that 21:15:41 i think the gate status is okish? 21:15:55 i haven't really paid attention in the last couple of days, but no news is good news 21:15:58 mriedem: do you want to talk about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1415087? 21:16:00 Launchpad bug 1415087 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[OSSA 2015-011] Format-guessing and file disclosure in image convert (CVE-2015-1850, CVE-2015-1851)" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Tony Breeds (o-tony) 21:16:01 We broke ironic earlera did we merge that? 21:16:16 Johnthetubaguy-w: yup 21:16:36 ok, so tonyb has this security bug 21:16:46 Johnthetubaguy-w: bug 1499271 is fix committed 21:16:49 bug 1499271 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "MetricsWeigher can return a NoneType exception" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499271 - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) 21:16:49 sounds like tonyb and kashyap have identified the problems in nova for the bug 21:17:00 tonyb: you're working a patch? 21:17:21 mriedem: Yeah verifying that it fixes anythign other than a theoretical issues is the hard part 21:17:36 yeah... 21:17:44 mriedem: Yeah, I'll punt on the Juno stuff until I have something out 21:17:59 oh you mean your stable juno crusade? 21:18:05 yeah i'd consider that low priority :) 21:18:20 mriedem: Yeah that thing. the tangled-web-of-onions 21:18:50 as for stable branches, kilo is going into a freeze for the next stable kilo release 21:19:06 stable/juno is, ...probably doesn't matter 21:19:13 maybe busted, maybe not 21:19:17 freeze, is that for strings? 21:19:31 Johnthetubaguy-w: no 21:19:31 Johnthetubaguy-w: all commits I think 21:19:35 right 21:19:39 stable isn't translated 21:19:46 the stable release lead just -2s everything 21:19:59 Yeah, I think they were talking about starting, but gotcha 21:20:03 until there is the tagged release and then drops the -2 21:20:09 Ah, ok 21:20:17 ok, anything else on bugs? 21:20:34 #topic design summit sessions 21:20:35 can I add new strings? 21:20:45 tonyb: on master you can b/c it's mitaka 21:21:01 mriedem: okay. 21:21:03 people frequently backport changes to stable that have i18n changes 21:21:15 which is why string freeze is kind of funny imo 21:21:19 but let's not get into it 21:21:41 design summit sessions should be proposed here http://goo.gl/forms/D2Qk8XGhZ6 21:21:49 or by emailing tonyb if your govt blocks google 21:21:50 Yeah, techincally hard freeze right now 21:22:11 tonyb's home address is in the ML i think 21:22:24 mriedem: Yeah and there's an etherpad 21:22:28 * Johnthetubaguy-w giggles 21:22:34 tonyb: link to the etherpad? 21:22:34 mriedem: so at least the process is clear :) 21:22:38 it's in the ML i guess 21:22:40 mriedem: tryign to find it 21:22:54 Yeah, it's on that thread 21:23:00 ok, moving on 21:23:03 #topic stuck reviews 21:23:10 i have one in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173204/ 21:23:11 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-summit-suggestions 21:23:30 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173204/ proposes to not set the 'default' security group for neutron by default 21:23:39 because it breaks certain configs of neutron 21:23:49 if port_security_enabled=False on the network provider 21:24:00 i put it on the stuck list since it's technically a nova api kind of change 21:24:21 but i feel like there are reasons to justify it, inline in that reivew 21:24:26 anyway, could use other opinions on that one 21:24:34 Yeah, it's a tricky one, but it feels correct 21:24:54 i have'nt looked in a week but i think we basically were making the wrong assumptions from the beginning, 21:24:58 which is why we could justify we shouldn't do it 21:25:06 and because neutron adds the default secgroup if port_security_enabled=True 21:25:10 so nova doesn't/shouldn't need to 21:25:23 yeah, sounds like they have done that for a few years 21:25:32 and ops people just hack around it 21:25:34 Which is handy 21:26:08 other stuck reviews? 21:26:11 mriedem: ooh, kudos for digging up a bug that refers to Quantum. 21:26:29 you're welcome 21:26:48 not hearing more stuck reviews 21:26:52 #topic open discussion 21:26:58 I have 2 questions regarding blueprints + specs for mitaka, to my understanding this blueprint needs a spec https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/boot-from-uefi so I would like to push a draft so subscribers /devs can early comment in that one 21:27:03 so 1st question: template says to stop in "proposed change" section (http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova-specs/tree/specs/mitaka-template.rst#n111) , but do I need to wipe-out all missing text below that or just leave it like that? (my current answ is just edit needed bit and leave everything as is) 21:27:14 and 2nd question: would the review be pushed under the same folder all other mitaka specs are (specs/mitaka/approved)? 21:27:22 yes to 2nd 21:27:44 s/bit/bits/ 21:28:08 on 1st question i'd probably wipe out the rest below that, but it doesn't really matter probably 21:28:13 as long as it's clear that the rest is template stuff 21:28:41 other open discussion? 21:28:43 mriedem: gotcha, thanks a lot! :) 21:28:55 cinder people have anything? 21:28:56 I have open spec which needs some diccussion 21:28:59 i saw some sneek in 21:29:09 sent an email on ML http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075267.html 21:29:09 s/sneek/sneak/ 21:29:10 mriedem: sssshhhht 21:29:28 * bauzas jk 21:29:37 spec : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222423/ detailed options : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/servicegroup-refactoring ML http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075267.html 21:30:01 please not this spec was accepted for Liberty and there are few concerns raised on the same when proposed again for Mitaka 21:30:23 jaypipes, Johnthetubaguy-w : ^^ 21:30:24 vilobhmm11: for someone that doesn't have the background on all of that in his head, what can we do in the nova meeting, or are you just raising awareness? 21:30:49 i'm pretty sure dansmith wanted to keep talking about it... :P 21:30:53 Yeah, I think it's an easier starting point, the new direction sounds good 21:31:18 Let's just review the updated spec I guess 21:31:27 well, we can discuss that on the spec 21:31:31 vilobhmm11: you didn't update the spec did you? 21:31:36 I thought you wanted agreement before updating the spec 21:31:48 Ah, good question 21:31:57 my feeling is: update the spec and lets discuss 21:31:58 dansmith : as we dicsussed the other day on IRC haev created an etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/servicegroup-refactoring  with all possible options 21:32:11 thought its easier to colaborate on etherpad with multiple people involved 21:32:13 vilobhmm11: right, but everyone in that discussion was in favor of a change 21:32:18 and like I said, 21:32:26 the spec is where we need to document consensus 21:32:38 +1 to dansmith 21:32:40 +1 21:32:51 ok will submit one 21:32:56 thanks 21:33:00 Cool 21:33:23 vilobhmm11: will try to review those tomorrow on my flight back home. 21:33:48 more open discussion? 21:33:56 or leave early so i can piss off more ops poeple? 21:33:59 *people even 21:34:07 +1 21:34:20 ok, that's it 21:34:21 thanks 21:34:23 #endmeeting