14:00:19 <cdent> #startmeeting nova 14:00:20 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Mar 9 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:21 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 14:00:26 <mriedem> o/ 14:00:28 <bauzas> \o 14:00:29 <takashin> o/ 14:00:31 <efried> o/ 14:00:42 <gibi> o/ 14:00:46 <edleafe> \o 14:00:54 <cdent> Hi, welcome to a nova meeting run by me because mriedem has the audacity to parent his actual children rather than us. 14:01:13 <mriedem> you'll always be abused stepchildren to me 14:01:51 <cdent> we'll just run through the agenda like normal 14:01:56 <cdent> #topic release news 14:02:08 <cdent> #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule 14:02:21 <mriedem> i updated the official release schedule with our spec freeze date 14:02:22 * johnthetubaguy lurks 14:02:28 <cdent> just over a month util p-1 14:02:34 <mriedem> well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442201/ 14:02:36 <bauzas> mriedem: cool 14:03:07 <cdent> #link review for spec freeze date https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442201/ 14:03:25 <cdent> anybody want to say anything else about that? 14:03:34 <mriedem> nope 14:03:36 <cdent> #topic bugs 14:03:52 <cdent> there is a critical bug: 14:03:54 <cdent> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1670627 - quotas are not decremented in nova cell DB when we delete an instance in cell0 14:03:54 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1670627 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "quota is always in-use after delete the ERROR instances " [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) 14:04:00 <mriedem> i've got a fix started in the series here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443403/ 14:04:14 <mriedem> Kevin_Zheng has a local recreate and was testing the fix last night, 14:04:20 <mriedem> i'm going to work on a functional test to recreate today 14:04:44 <bauzas> mriedem: even with single cell ? 14:04:47 <mriedem> yes 14:04:47 <cdent> so, under control, any help needed? 14:04:53 <bauzas> :/ 14:04:59 <mriedem> umm, eyeballs are nice 14:05:03 <mriedem> it's also in ocata, 14:05:05 <mriedem> which is bad 14:05:13 <mriedem> so only the bottom patch is going to be backported 14:05:17 * cdent gives mriedem glenn's eyeball 14:05:18 <mriedem> the top one is a pike-only issue 14:05:27 <bauzas> yeah 14:05:38 <bauzas> it's a WIP because of lack of testing ? 14:05:46 <bauzas> oh no 14:05:48 <mriedem> bauzas: and because we don't know it fixes the issue yet 14:05:49 <bauzas> nvm :) 14:05:53 <bauzas> ok 14:06:09 <mriedem> hence the need for a functional test 14:06:12 <mriedem> b/c unit tests aren't going to cut it 14:06:15 <bauzas> yeah 14:06:51 <mriedem> nothing else on that 14:06:52 <cdent> there's also a critical bug over on the docs side of the world related to updates of the install docs for nova. this is close to being resolved and verified. the review for that is: 14:07:00 <cdent> #link install docs update: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/ 14:07:22 <cdent> I just got halfway through a greenfield install it is working 14:07:24 <bauzas> cdent: FWIW, I wonder if the docs bug is really a regression or not 14:07:38 <bauzas> seems like it's libvirt not restarted 14:07:46 <cdent> bauzas: there's two issue at play 14:08:00 <bauzas> okay, I'll look into it 14:08:01 <cdent> one is that there were no docs for greenfield install of cells and placement 14:08:10 <cdent> the other is the libvirt thing 14:08:26 <bauzas> I thought there was a review for the cells and placement doc ? 14:08:28 <cdent> the former is in hand, not sure on the latter 14:08:38 <cdent> that's the link I just pasted above, so yes 14:08:45 <bauzas> okay 14:09:07 <cdent> but it's considered pretty crtiical from the docs side of the world since they'd like to have correct ocata docs, since its already out 14:09:16 <cdent> any other critical bugs? 14:09:34 <cdent> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html 14:09:53 <cdent> mriedem anything to say about that? 14:10:27 <cdent> must be parenting 14:10:28 <mriedem> nope 14:10:34 <cdent> timing is everything 14:10:45 <mriedem> teeth need to be brushed 14:11:04 <cdent> #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days 14:11:10 <mriedem> no news there really 14:11:11 <cdent> it is what is say on the tin 14:11:16 <cdent> #topic reminders 14:11:27 <cdent> #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking 14:11:38 <cdent> subteams should start getting things on there 14:11:41 <cdent> if they haven't already 14:12:06 <cdent> #link Forum planning: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 14:12:27 <mriedem> waits for next link... 14:12:30 <cdent> it seems the message has changed and now there will be more for devs at summit than initially expected 14:12:44 <cdent> the next link is for brainstorming nova stuff there 14:12:52 <mriedem> dansmith started an etherpad for nova stuff at the forum 14:12:53 <cdent> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming Forum discussion planning for nova (dansmith) 14:13:13 <mriedem> it sounds like we'll have some time for meetup-style discussion in a large room with lots of smaller tables, 14:13:20 <mriedem> sounds like the lunch room at the PTG actually 14:13:28 <bauzas> mriedem: midcycle-ish ? 14:13:43 <mriedem> well, point is to try and get some topics on that etherpad for things that whoever is there can talk about 14:13:55 <mriedem> mostly going to be checkpointing on the status of the priorities 14:14:02 <bauzas> ack 14:14:25 <cdent> #topic stable branch status 14:14:32 * cdent looks at mriedem 14:14:44 <mriedem> going to be doing an ocata release next week 14:14:54 <mriedem> after we get this quotas thing fixed 14:15:16 <mriedem> there is another regression fix for libvirt+xen already backported so need to get that out 14:15:27 <mriedem> b/c it breaks that type of deploy on upgrade to ocata depending on your libvirt/qemu versions 14:16:13 <cdent> #topic subteam highlights 14:16:18 <cdent> dansmith: you here? 14:16:24 <mriedem> i can vouch 14:16:24 <bauzas> not yet 14:16:35 <mriedem> dansmith has a series here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442200/ for teaching the api about cells 14:16:49 <mriedem> we found some issues yesterday in the series so part of it has been moved out, 14:16:57 <mriedem> but dansmith has basically a clean tempest run at the end 14:17:00 <bauzas> yeah the set_target_cell() method was merged yesterday, cools 14:17:05 <mriedem> with multiple cells 14:17:20 <mriedem> the issue we found prompted https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/service-hyper-pci-uuid-in-api 14:17:28 <mriedem> i'm going to be writing a spec for that today or tomorrow 14:17:34 <mriedem> but the abstract has the details 14:17:51 <mriedem> we also talked about the searchlight spec a bit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441692/ 14:17:56 <mriedem> and counting quotas 14:18:03 <mriedem> longest cells meeting ever actually 14:18:05 <mriedem> that's it 14:18:17 <cdent> edleafe: scheduler? 14:18:24 <edleafe> Discussed concerns about the destructive potential of bulk creation and deletion of traits. Resolved to remove those from the spec for now. 14:18:27 <edleafe> Decided that resource updates in placement should not emit notifications - such notifications are best handled by the service managing the resource. 14:18:30 <edleafe> Need to get spec core eyeballs on traits spec: 14:18:32 <edleafe> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345138/ 14:18:35 <edleafe> jroll to create specs for flavor changes needed for ironic resource classes. 14:18:38 <edleafe> Typing speeds: alex_xu > edleafe > jroll > cdent 14:18:40 <edleafe> EOM 14:18:49 <cdent> hey, I improved by the end 14:18:56 <edleafe> not enough 14:18:59 <cdent> fair 14:19:09 <cdent> tdurakov: live migration? 14:19:10 <jaypipes> edleafe: it's on my list. 14:19:18 <edleafe> jaypipes: thx 14:19:34 <cdent> anyone else from live migration? 14:19:54 <raj_singh> Mostly we talked about specs on LM 14:20:01 <armstrong> I am interested on live migration 14:20:08 <raj_singh> one to support LM of rescue instances 14:20:25 <raj_singh> I have few other specs up, as follow on from PTG 14:20:55 <raj_singh> that was pretty much it 14:21:03 <cdent> alex_xu or johnthetubaguy want to summarize api? 14:21:44 <cdent> okay, we had some discussion summarizing capabilities talk at the PTG 14:21:56 <cdent> rob*cresswell showed up to ask about that a bit 14:22:30 <cdent> discussion about policy handling 14:22:42 <cdent> some long term noodling 14:23:00 <cdent> sr-iov/pci ? 14:23:12 <mriedem> don't see moshele 14:23:22 <cdent> gibi: notifications? 14:23:29 <gibi> I started a weekly status / focus mail about notifications 14:23:29 <gibi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113358.html 14:23:36 <gibi> On the meeting the biggest buzz was about searchlight integration 14:23:36 <gibi> we found out that searchlight hasn't built on versioned notification yet. 14:23:39 <gibi> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/nova-versioned-notifications 14:23:48 <gibi> on our side we need to focus on #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight 14:23:51 <gibi> I will draft the BDM related payload pieces this week 14:24:02 <gibi> Short circuiting notifications progressing. The oslo.messaging part has been merged. 14:24:05 <gibi> EOM 14:24:09 <mriedem> thanks gibi 14:24:20 <cdent> nice summary 14:24:34 <cdent> efried, thorst : powervm? 14:24:37 <efried> Hi folks. We have six reviews ready for the broader team. They're listed in the etherpad, or here (the ones with CR+1): https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver+status:open 14:25:13 <efried> The bottom few of these have been ready since the PTG. I don't know the protocol, and don't want to step on any toes, but how do I... er... encourage attention? 14:25:34 <mriedem> efried: wait for the fires to go out? 14:25:37 <mriedem> just be patient 14:25:44 <efried> Cool beans. 14:25:49 <mriedem> efried: i've noticed you helping to review other patches too, 14:25:51 <mriedem> that helps, thanks 14:25:52 <mriedem> karma and all 14:26:00 <efried> Cool, will keep at that, for whatever it's worth ;-) 14:26:06 <efried> That's all I have. Thanks. 14:26:18 <cdent> mriedem you wanna do cinder? 14:26:26 <mriedem> yeah, status is the same as last week 14:26:33 <mriedem> lyarwood has the patches for uuid and attachment_id in bdm, 14:26:40 <mriedem> ildikov updated the patch to support cinder v3 14:26:46 <mriedem> and johnthetubaguy has the spec to use the new apis 14:26:51 <mriedem> the nova/cinder meeting is later today 14:27:02 <cdent> cool 14:27:03 <mriedem> lyarwood: i think you need to address some stuff in those patches btw 14:27:18 <mriedem> looks like good review on john's spec though 14:27:44 <cdent> #topic stuck reviews 14:27:54 <cdent> none listed on the agenda 14:27:56 <cdent> anyone? 14:28:00 * mriedem drops 14:28:20 <cdent> #topic open discussion 14:28:50 <cdent> edleafe? 14:28:53 <cdent> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-openstack-api-directory 14:29:08 <edleafe> YEah, this is a low priority 14:29:30 <edleafe> but since we decided to only support one API, the 'openstack' subdirectory isn't needed 14:29:51 <cdent> yeah, that would be nice to clean up some day 14:29:52 <edleafe> Wanted to get others' input on this 14:30:19 <edleafe> I have a couple of baby steps in my local git 14:30:20 <bauzas> not sure it honestly requires a blueprint 14:30:31 <bauzas> it's just internal repackaging 14:30:38 <sfinucan> sounds like cleanup. Doubt we'd need a bp? 14:30:41 <bauzas> except tracking all needs 14:30:43 <sfinucan> ^ yeah, that 14:30:47 <edleafe> bauzas: yeah, but for tracking 14:30:48 <sfinucan> specless bp 14:30:52 <sfinucan> ? 14:31:02 <edleafe> sfinucan: that's what I was thinking 14:31:14 <bauzas> edleafe: well, there is a notion for that called gerrit topics but meh :) 14:31:40 <bauzas> I defer to the parent who left (c) me to say whether you need blessing for a BP or not :) 14:32:32 <cdent> one issue is nova.api.openstack shows up in paste.ini 14:32:51 <edleafe> cdent: yes, that would have to change 14:33:03 <cdent> so upgrading becomes painful in some situations 14:33:13 <edleafe> ack 14:33:37 <cdent> there's one more open topic: 14:33:48 <cdent> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/lvm-thin-pool 14:33:49 <cdent> but logan- is not here 14:34:01 <bauzas> cdent: oh good point for paste :/ 14:34:32 <cdent> Any other open topics? 14:34:56 <cdent> Then let's continue chatting in #openstack-nova 14:35:03 <cdent> thanks everyone for coming 14:35:05 <edleafe> thanks cdent 14:35:08 <sfinucan> cheers 14:35:11 <cdent> #endmeeting