14:00:19 <cdent> #startmeeting nova
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14:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
14:00:26 <mriedem> o/
14:00:28 <bauzas> \o
14:00:29 <takashin> o/
14:00:31 <efried> o/
14:00:42 <gibi> o/
14:00:46 <edleafe> \o
14:00:54 <cdent> Hi, welcome to a nova meeting run by me because mriedem has the audacity to parent his actual children rather than us.
14:01:13 <mriedem> you'll always be abused stepchildren to me
14:01:51 <cdent> we'll just run through the agenda like normal
14:01:56 <cdent> #topic release news
14:02:08 <cdent> #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule
14:02:21 <mriedem> i updated the official release schedule with our spec freeze date
14:02:22 * johnthetubaguy lurks
14:02:28 <cdent> just over a month util p-1
14:02:34 <mriedem> well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442201/
14:02:36 <bauzas> mriedem: cool
14:03:07 <cdent> #link review for spec freeze date https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442201/
14:03:25 <cdent> anybody want to say anything else about that?
14:03:34 <mriedem> nope
14:03:36 <cdent> #topic bugs
14:03:52 <cdent> there is a critical bug:
14:03:54 <cdent> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1670627 - quotas are not decremented in nova cell DB when we delete an instance in cell0
14:03:54 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1670627 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "quota is always in-use after delete the ERROR instances " [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)
14:04:00 <mriedem> i've got a fix started in the series here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443403/
14:04:14 <mriedem> Kevin_Zheng has a local recreate and was testing the fix last night,
14:04:20 <mriedem> i'm going to work on a functional test to recreate today
14:04:44 <bauzas> mriedem: even with single cell ?
14:04:47 <mriedem> yes
14:04:47 <cdent> so, under control, any help needed?
14:04:53 <bauzas> :/
14:04:59 <mriedem> umm, eyeballs are nice
14:05:03 <mriedem> it's also in ocata,
14:05:05 <mriedem> which is bad
14:05:13 <mriedem> so only the bottom patch is going to be backported
14:05:17 * cdent gives mriedem glenn's eyeball
14:05:18 <mriedem> the top one is a pike-only issue
14:05:27 <bauzas> yeah
14:05:38 <bauzas> it's a WIP because of lack of testing ?
14:05:46 <bauzas> oh no
14:05:48 <mriedem> bauzas: and because we don't know it fixes the issue yet
14:05:49 <bauzas> nvm :)
14:05:53 <bauzas> ok
14:06:09 <mriedem> hence the need for a functional test
14:06:12 <mriedem> b/c unit tests aren't going to cut it
14:06:15 <bauzas> yeah
14:06:51 <mriedem> nothing else on that
14:06:52 <cdent> there's also a critical bug over on the docs side of the world related to updates of the install docs for nova. this is close to being resolved and verified. the review for that is:
14:07:00 <cdent> #link install docs update: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/
14:07:22 <cdent> I just got halfway through a greenfield install it is working
14:07:24 <bauzas> cdent: FWIW, I wonder if the docs bug is really a regression or not
14:07:38 <bauzas> seems like it's libvirt not restarted
14:07:46 <cdent> bauzas: there's two issue at play
14:08:00 <bauzas> okay, I'll look into it
14:08:01 <cdent> one is that there were no docs for greenfield install of cells and placement
14:08:10 <cdent> the other is the libvirt thing
14:08:26 <bauzas> I thought there was a review for the cells and placement doc ?
14:08:28 <cdent> the former is in hand, not sure on the latter
14:08:38 <cdent> that's the link I just pasted above, so yes
14:08:45 <bauzas> okay
14:09:07 <cdent> but it's considered pretty crtiical from the docs side of the world since they'd like to have correct ocata docs, since its already out
14:09:16 <cdent> any other critical bugs?
14:09:34 <cdent> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html
14:09:53 <cdent> mriedem anything to say about that?
14:10:27 <cdent> must be parenting
14:10:28 <mriedem> nope
14:10:34 <cdent> timing is everything
14:10:45 <mriedem> teeth need to be brushed
14:11:04 <cdent> #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days
14:11:10 <mriedem> no news there really
14:11:11 <cdent> it is what is say on the tin
14:11:16 <cdent> #topic reminders
14:11:27 <cdent> #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking
14:11:38 <cdent> subteams should start getting things on there
14:11:41 <cdent> if they haven't already
14:12:06 <cdent> #link Forum planning: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017
14:12:27 <mriedem> waits for next link...
14:12:30 <cdent> it seems the message has changed and now there will be more for devs at summit than initially expected
14:12:44 <cdent> the next link is for brainstorming nova stuff there
14:12:52 <mriedem> dansmith started an etherpad for nova stuff at the forum
14:12:53 <cdent> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming Forum discussion planning for nova (dansmith)
14:13:13 <mriedem> it sounds like we'll have some time for meetup-style discussion in a large room with lots of smaller tables,
14:13:20 <mriedem> sounds like the lunch room at the PTG actually
14:13:28 <bauzas> mriedem: midcycle-ish ?
14:13:43 <mriedem> well, point is to try and get some topics on that etherpad for things that whoever is there can talk about
14:13:55 <mriedem> mostly going to be checkpointing on the status of the priorities
14:14:02 <bauzas> ack
14:14:25 <cdent> #topic stable branch status
14:14:32 * cdent looks at mriedem
14:14:44 <mriedem> going to be doing an ocata release next week
14:14:54 <mriedem> after we get this quotas thing fixed
14:15:16 <mriedem> there is another regression fix for libvirt+xen already backported so need to get that out
14:15:27 <mriedem> b/c it breaks that type of deploy on upgrade to ocata depending on your libvirt/qemu versions
14:16:13 <cdent> #topic subteam highlights
14:16:18 <cdent> dansmith: you here?
14:16:24 <mriedem> i can vouch
14:16:24 <bauzas> not yet
14:16:35 <mriedem> dansmith has a series here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442200/ for teaching the api about cells
14:16:49 <mriedem> we found some issues yesterday in the series so part of it has been moved out,
14:16:57 <mriedem> but dansmith has basically a clean tempest run at the end
14:17:00 <bauzas> yeah the set_target_cell() method was merged yesterday, cools
14:17:05 <mriedem> with multiple cells
14:17:20 <mriedem> the issue we found prompted https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/service-hyper-pci-uuid-in-api
14:17:28 <mriedem> i'm going to be writing a spec for that today or tomorrow
14:17:34 <mriedem> but the abstract has the details
14:17:51 <mriedem> we also talked about the searchlight spec a bit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441692/
14:17:56 <mriedem> and counting quotas
14:18:03 <mriedem> longest cells meeting ever actually
14:18:05 <mriedem> that's it
14:18:17 <cdent> edleafe: scheduler?
14:18:24 <edleafe> Discussed concerns about the destructive potential of bulk creation and deletion of traits. Resolved to remove those from the spec for now.
14:18:27 <edleafe> Decided that resource updates in placement should not emit notifications - such notifications are best handled by the service managing the resource.
14:18:30 <edleafe> Need to get spec core eyeballs on traits spec:
14:18:32 <edleafe> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345138/
14:18:35 <edleafe> jroll to create specs for flavor changes needed for ironic resource classes.
14:18:38 <edleafe> Typing speeds: alex_xu > edleafe > jroll > cdent
14:18:40 <edleafe> EOM
14:18:49 <cdent> hey, I improved by the end
14:18:56 <edleafe> not enough
14:18:59 <cdent> fair
14:19:09 <cdent> tdurakov: live migration?
14:19:10 <jaypipes> edleafe: it's on my list.
14:19:18 <edleafe> jaypipes: thx
14:19:34 <cdent> anyone else from live migration?
14:19:54 <raj_singh> Mostly we talked about specs on LM
14:20:01 <armstrong> I am interested on live migration
14:20:08 <raj_singh> one to support LM of rescue instances
14:20:25 <raj_singh> I have few other specs up, as follow on from PTG
14:20:55 <raj_singh> that was pretty much it
14:21:03 <cdent> alex_xu or johnthetubaguy want to summarize api?
14:21:44 <cdent> okay, we had some discussion summarizing capabilities talk at the PTG
14:21:56 <cdent> rob*cresswell showed up to ask about that a bit
14:22:30 <cdent> discussion about policy handling
14:22:42 <cdent> some long term noodling
14:23:00 <cdent> sr-iov/pci ?
14:23:12 <mriedem> don't see moshele
14:23:22 <cdent> gibi: notifications?
14:23:29 <gibi> I started a weekly status / focus mail about notifications
14:23:29 <gibi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113358.html
14:23:36 <gibi> On the meeting the biggest buzz was about searchlight integration
14:23:36 <gibi> we found out that searchlight hasn't built on versioned notification yet.
14:23:39 <gibi> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/nova-versioned-notifications
14:23:48 <gibi> on our side we need to focus on #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight
14:23:51 <gibi> I will draft the BDM related payload pieces this week
14:24:02 <gibi> Short circuiting notifications progressing. The oslo.messaging part has been merged.
14:24:05 <gibi> EOM
14:24:09 <mriedem> thanks gibi
14:24:20 <cdent> nice summary
14:24:34 <cdent> efried, thorst : powervm?
14:24:37 <efried> Hi folks.  We have six reviews ready for the broader team.  They're listed in the etherpad, or here (the ones with CR+1): https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver+status:open
14:25:13 <efried> The bottom few of these have been ready since the PTG.  I don't know the protocol, and don't want to step on any toes, but how do I... er... encourage attention?
14:25:34 <mriedem> efried: wait for the fires to go out?
14:25:37 <mriedem> just be patient
14:25:44 <efried> Cool beans.
14:25:49 <mriedem> efried: i've noticed you helping to review other patches too,
14:25:51 <mriedem> that helps, thanks
14:25:52 <mriedem> karma and all
14:26:00 <efried> Cool, will keep at that, for whatever it's worth ;-)
14:26:06 <efried> That's all I have.  Thanks.
14:26:18 <cdent> mriedem you wanna do cinder?
14:26:26 <mriedem> yeah, status is the same as last week
14:26:33 <mriedem> lyarwood has the patches for uuid and attachment_id in bdm,
14:26:40 <mriedem> ildikov updated the patch to support cinder v3
14:26:46 <mriedem> and johnthetubaguy has the spec to use the new apis
14:26:51 <mriedem> the nova/cinder meeting is later today
14:27:02 <cdent> cool
14:27:03 <mriedem> lyarwood: i think you need to address some stuff in those patches btw
14:27:18 <mriedem> looks like good review on john's spec though
14:27:44 <cdent> #topic stuck reviews
14:27:54 <cdent> none listed on the agenda
14:27:56 <cdent> anyone?
14:28:00 * mriedem drops
14:28:20 <cdent> #topic open discussion
14:28:50 <cdent> edleafe?
14:28:53 <cdent> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-openstack-api-directory
14:29:08 <edleafe> YEah, this is a low priority
14:29:30 <edleafe> but since we decided to only support one API, the 'openstack' subdirectory isn't needed
14:29:51 <cdent> yeah, that would be nice to clean up some day
14:29:52 <edleafe> Wanted to get others' input on this
14:30:19 <edleafe> I have a couple of baby steps in my local git
14:30:20 <bauzas> not sure it honestly requires a blueprint
14:30:31 <bauzas> it's just internal repackaging
14:30:38 <sfinucan> sounds like cleanup. Doubt we'd need a bp?
14:30:41 <bauzas> except tracking all needs
14:30:43 <sfinucan> ^ yeah, that
14:30:47 <edleafe> bauzas: yeah, but for tracking
14:30:48 <sfinucan> specless bp
14:30:52 <sfinucan> ?
14:31:02 <edleafe> sfinucan: that's what I was thinking
14:31:14 <bauzas> edleafe: well, there is a notion for that called gerrit topics but meh :)
14:31:40 <bauzas> I defer to the parent who left (c) me to say whether you need blessing for a BP or not :)
14:32:32 <cdent> one issue is nova.api.openstack shows up in paste.ini
14:32:51 <edleafe> cdent: yes, that would have to change
14:33:03 <cdent> so upgrading becomes painful in some situations
14:33:13 <edleafe> ack
14:33:37 <cdent> there's one more open topic:
14:33:48 <cdent> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/lvm-thin-pool
14:33:49 <cdent> but logan- is not here
14:34:01 <bauzas> cdent: oh good point for paste :/
14:34:32 <cdent> Any other open topics?
14:34:56 <cdent> Then let's continue chatting in #openstack-nova
14:35:03 <cdent> thanks everyone for coming
14:35:05 <edleafe> thanks cdent
14:35:08 <sfinucan> cheers
14:35:11 <cdent> #endmeeting