14:00:22 #startmeeting nova 14:00:22 Meeting started Thu May 4 14:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:25 The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 14:00:49 \o 14:01:03 / 14:01:06 o/ 14:01:08 o/ 14:01:27 o/ 14:01:59 o/ 14:02:02 o/ 14:02:06 \o 14:02:34 well i suppose we should get started 14:02:35 #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting 14:02:46 #topic release news 14:02:52 #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule 14:03:01 #info Next upcoming milestone: Jun 8: p-2 milestone 14:03:16 so basically 3-4 weeks until p-2, 14:03:26 since we'll probably consider next week a wash for any work 14:03:50 #info Blueprints: 71 targeted, 66 approved, 9 completed, 7 not started 14:04:00 #link pike-1 recap and pike-2 focus: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115700.html 14:04:07 #help There are still some approved blueprints looking for owners: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115899.html 14:04:17 i identified 3 orphan blueprints this morning 14:04:22 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-service-tokens-pike 14:04:28 2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-force-after-timeout 14:04:33 3. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-per-instance-timeout 14:04:47 2 of those have code already started 14:04:58 they all have specs i think 14:05:06 so if you're interested in owning one please let me know 14:05:14 yeah, the specs have most of the context for those 14:05:26 Service tokens, if you don't get a better offer. 14:05:28 o/ 14:05:37 mriedem: to play devils advocate 14:05:43 efried: i'm just going ot assign that one to you 14:05:47 should we really be encouraging people to take up those specs? 14:05:50 * alex_xu_ waves late 14:06:01 given the drop in reviewer resources that OSIC going away has also incurred? 14:06:15 sfinucan: drop in reviewer resources... 14:06:31 sfinucan: john is the only core from osic right? 14:06:32 http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/nova/30 14:06:35 and #4 in reviews 14:06:51 it's not just about core reviewer bandwidth, it's everybody reviewer bandwidth 14:06:53 core, yes, but it can't be just cores reviewing :) 14:06:58 Yes, that ^ 14:07:35 There are a lot of specs. We might be better accepting that some of those OSIC specs aren't going to get done now and focus on what will 14:07:48 sure, 14:07:48 so maybe you guys understand now why i have to tell people we have a spec freeze after which point we don't accept more things 14:07:53 these were accepted before the spec freeze, and i'm told from time to time we have new contributors looking for work 14:08:09 Like efried above. Gotcha 14:08:26 so the use-service-tokens one is a big deal 14:08:28 if by p-2 there are blueprints that aren't started, then i'm probably going to drop them 14:08:49 the live-migration ones are things operators would like, now progress monitoring has been proven not to work 14:09:05 they have some utility, generally 14:09:34 efried: the service token one was stuck behind a py3 related glanceclient bug 14:09:41 right, so, right now those bps aren't taking up any reviewer time 14:09:54 johnthetubaguy Was or is? 14:09:59 so if someone is looking to contribute and wants to dust them off and run with them, they can 14:10:05 if no one does, then they get deferred 14:10:12 meanwhile, 14:10:18 we have lot of other work that needs to be done and has owners, 14:10:21 efried: unsure, there was a patch proposed, not sure if its merged and released yet, given the big hit glance took, I guess thats a no 14:10:22 so those get priority obviously 14:10:30 mriedem: +1 14:10:46 btw, 14:10:57 maybe this should be a kick in the ass to the core team to bump up the review count 14:11:26 but let's move on 14:11:39 #topic bugs 14:11:40 mriedem: trying my best, man :( 14:12:03 jaypipes: i know - i'm not singling people out 14:12:15 0 critical bugs reported 14:12:17 he's talking about me anyway :) 14:12:24 #help Need help with bug triage; there are 85 new untriaged bugs as of today (May 4) 14:12:38 #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html 14:12:44 so as some are aware, 14:12:53 the cells v1 job was failing at about a 50% rate up until yesterday 14:12:58 well, between 5/1 and yesterday 14:13:03 because of the systemd journal logging stuff, 14:13:11 that was disabled yesterday, so that job is passing again at a normal rate 14:13:25 http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1580728 14:13:39 the job or the logging? 14:13:43 the job 14:13:46 the logging was disabled 14:13:56 OK 14:14:06 johnthetubaguy: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/b2bfe5617ac43a678a9113d5c955f5456c151319 was the "fix" 14:14:11 temp workaround really 14:14:32 melwitt has a related fix up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461912 14:14:32 patch 461912 - nova - Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object 14:14:56 3rd party ci status, 14:15:02 i don't really have anything here 14:15:16 any questions/comments about bugs? 14:15:33 #topic reminders 14:15:42 #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking 14:15:54 keep ^ up to date for the latest changes that are ready for review 14:16:07 i need to update that for cells v2 most likely 14:16:17 #link Forum planning: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 14:16:22 #info Start creating etherpads for your sessions. There is an optional template: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115972.html 14:16:45 i plan on working on etherpads for the sessions i own today 14:17:03 the template with all of the hash tags and everything overwhelmed me though 14:17:11 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming Forum discussion planning for nova (add your name if you are going) 14:17:19 #info Forum sessions: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=forum 14:17:29 any questions about the forum? 14:17:40 #topic stable branch status 14:17:47 stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z 14:17:53 #info release requests are up for ocata nova 15.0.4 and novaclient 7.1.1 14:18:06 stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z 14:18:12 #info release requests are up for newton nova 14.0.6 and novaclient 6.0.1 14:18:21 cool 14:18:26 with the stable ptl looking for work, any releases for the stable branch are sitting 14:18:42 I'll review the above ^ 14:18:54 so if the red hat gang cares about stable releases, kindly bug apevec 14:19:08 :p 14:19:13 #topic subteam highlights 14:19:20 dansmith: cells v2 14:19:27 we had a meeting, 14:19:31 talked about the journald bug, 14:19:41 my aggregate fix thing, 14:19:46 and about ovo for too long 14:20:10 and we hawk'd melwitt's quotas patch for the attendees 14:20:19 which were, uh, me and melwitt and mriedem 14:20:21 heh, which was the 3 of us 14:20:22 :) 14:20:24 oh, we had a wild laski sighting 14:20:28 oh yeah 14:20:29 that was cool 14:20:44 almost hit him with my truck 14:20:45 anyway, that's it I think 14:20:52 * jaypipes still trying to get through melwitt's quotas series. 14:20:53 edleafe: scheduler 14:20:56 Discussed the proposed placement-manage patch to sync os-traits with the placement DB (https://review.openstack.org/450125). Agreed to discuss further on the review. 14:20:57 patch 450125 - nova - Add sync traits command for placement 14:20:58 slow sloggin on that one :( 14:20:59 Didn't get into the claims WIP reviews, as bauzas was not present. 14:21:01 jaypipes asked some of us to review his slides for his talk in Boston. For some reason we agreed without payment of large sums of cash. 14:21:04 That's all, folks! 14:21:26 edleafe: yeah, was on holiday :( 14:21:27 edleafe: I can pay in beer. 14:21:36 tdurakov: around for live migration? 14:21:44 or a Shirley Temple for dansmith. 14:21:53 alex_xu_: around for api meeting highlights? 14:22:01 mriedem: some sad news... 14:22:08 timofey is gone 14:22:10 just go through each work item. the last patch for nova api via wsgi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ 14:22:10 patch 457715 - openstack-dev/devstack - Use uwsgi for nova when NOVA_USE_MOD_WSGI is not F... 14:22:15 mriedem: tdurakov and snikitin will no longer be working on Nova. 14:22:26 jaypipes: ok, not unexpected news, but ok 14:22:33 both have decided to pursue adventures outside of OPenStack. 14:22:59 alex_xu_: thanks 14:23:01 api team takes over the rest of policy doc works, and good progress. that's all 14:23:02 so we're going to need a new live migration lead. 14:23:11 I nominate moshele. 14:23:38 well, 14:23:44 we don't have to have subteams for things that aren't very active anymore, 14:23:54 the live migration subteam started b/c of HPE pushing so much change 14:24:11 so maybe we just sideline that for now unless someone wants to pick it up again 14:24:23 as noted earlier, we have lots of stuff to work on 14:24:24 mriedem: well, there continues to be *some* innovation in upstream QEMU/libvirt around live migration, so probably good to keep up with it. 14:24:52 Ditto for sr-iov. Haven't had a meeting there for a few months 14:25:06 #help looking for new live migration lead / contact person 14:25:15 ok moving on 14:25:23 gibi posted some updates for versioned notifications 14:25:34 his two focus areas are: 14:25:38 1. volume attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401992/ - which is in the gate 14:25:38 patch 401992 - nova - Transform instance.volume_attach notification (MERGED) 14:25:44 or merged 14:25:49 and 14:25:49 2. additional fields for Searchlight https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight 14:26:04 ^ continues to be something we said we'd get done in p-1 so we should try to do that 14:26:07 there isn't too much left 14:26:13 k, will do those today. 14:26:28 they all need to be rebased now though b/c of the volume attach/detach notifications going in 14:26:36 i'll help rebase them after the meeting 14:26:48 efried: powervm? 14:26:50 Three ready for final reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver+is:mergeable 14:26:53 Once one or two more of those go through, we can start in on the others in the series again. 14:26:57 That said... 14:27:09 We know the PowerVM driver work is going to spill past Pike 14:27:24 So thinking it would be worth setting a goal for the scope of stuff we want to get into Pike. 14:27:45 Reasonable to say it should include the above three at least. 14:27:46 like get those 3 done and that's it for pike? 14:27:52 "at least" 14:27:55 psh 14:28:04 Thoughts on factors affecting adding more to the pile? 14:28:15 i like having you working on these other bp's that affect nova as a whole 14:28:45 Noted; but I oughtta have room for both. 14:28:59 sure, but we don't necessarily have review bandwidth 14:28:59 Anyway, for now, I'm happy saying those three, and any others are a bonus. 14:29:03 Yeah, I get it. 14:29:05 as noted eaarlier 14:29:05 ok 14:29:11 That's it for me. 14:29:30 cinder subteam: 14:29:48 the current focus is still on plumbing in the new cinder v3 api for detach scenarios 14:29:53 there is a series starting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456896/ 14:29:54 patch 456896 - nova - Add Cinder v3 detach call to _terminate_volume_con... 14:30:08 the first three there are pretty easy 14:30:15 #help Will need a 3rd core to help move changes along. 14:30:28 I guess the spec gives a good context on the new API? 14:30:31 as johnthetubaguy and i are contributing to this series, we'll need a 3rd core 14:30:57 so i'll just harass people as time goes on 14:31:09 #topic stuck reviews 14:31:16 there was nothing on the agenda 14:31:27 anyone want to mention a review that's stuck? 14:31:34 mriedem: I won't have bandwidth to review the cinderv3 detach stuff, unfortunately. 14:31:56 mriedem: not stuck, but this series would be great to make forward progress on: 14:32:01 jaypipes: again, i'm just fishing 14:32:06 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/shared-resources-pike 14:32:26 #topic open discussion 14:32:31 nothing on the agenda 14:32:38 does anyone have anything they wanted to talk about? 14:32:46 no meeting next week, right? 14:32:51 ah yes thanks 14:32:58 #info no team meeting next week due to the summit 14:33:09 Following week this same time, then? 14:33:10 Hi 14:33:14 efried: yes 14:33:16 So, like, skipping rather than moving 14:33:24 Can I request to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443951/ 14:33:25 patch 443951 - nova - Libvirt volume driver for Veritas HyperScale 14:33:37 sam____: yes i'll review that today 14:33:52 so at the summit, is there a Nova hang out area? 14:33:52 Thanks 14:33:55 sam____: did the os-brick release get into global-reqiurements as a new minimum? 14:34:11 yes its merged 14:34:14 sam____: yup https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L150 14:34:14 ok 14:34:21 johnthetubaguy: nova hangout area... 14:34:22 I am kinda used to us all getting suck in the same room together, gonna be different with the forum 14:34:51 Thanks mriedem :) 14:34:56 anyways, I guess we will all bump into each other at some point 14:35:05 johnthetubaguy: i don't think there is, 14:35:11 there are available 'hacking' rooms if needed 14:35:18 but my dance card is full, i don't know about others 14:35:49 looks like there are spill over rooms on thursday afternoon too if needed 14:35:49 yeah, I look like I have something in every forum slot... and thats just out of curiosity I guess 14:35:49 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017#Thursday_Afternoon_session_sign-up 14:36:17 ok anything else? 14:36:27 sounds like we are done 14:36:52 Anyone know of a mobile IRC app that doesn't suck? 14:36:59 AndChat 14:37:07 he said "doesn't suck" 14:37:11 alright let's take that -nova 14:37:13 thanks everyone 14:37:15 #endmeeting