21:01:18 <mriedem> #startmeeting nova
21:01:19 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 26 21:01:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:01:22 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:01:27 <mriedem> hi
21:01:29 <takashin> o/
21:01:34 <melwitt> o/
21:01:36 <tssurya_> o/
21:01:41 <edleafe> \o
21:01:42 <dansmith> o/
21:02:14 <mriedem> alright let's get started
21:02:14 <tonyb> \o
21:02:17 <mriedem> #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting
21:02:24 <mriedem> #topic release news
21:02:30 <mriedem> #link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule
21:02:37 <mriedem> #info Blueprints: 64 targeted, 48 approved, 1 complete
21:02:50 <mriedem> i'll be culling the list of targeted blueprints after the summit probably,
21:03:00 <mriedem> there are some in there that were just deferred from pike but don't really have owners
21:03:13 <mriedem> #topic bugs
21:03:22 <mriedem> nothing critical
21:03:36 <mriedem> although i'm finding lots of request spec bugs in our closet :)
21:03:36 <jaypipes> o/
21:03:40 <mriedem> #info 18 new untriaged bugs (up 2 from last week)
21:03:50 <mriedem> gate status is ok
21:04:07 <mriedem> melwitt fixed a problem with our live-migration job and the zuulv3 transition
21:04:19 <mriedem> so now that job will run on just changes to the CI hook script again
21:04:28 <mriedem> no news on 3rd party ci
21:04:40 <mriedem> #topic reminders
21:04:47 <mriedem> #info Forum topics have been reviewed and the summit schedule is available.  Start working on Forum session discussion etherpads and presentations. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Sydney2017
21:05:00 <mriedem> #topic stable branch status
21:05:06 <mriedem> #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z
21:05:08 * efried waves late
21:05:11 <mriedem> #link Etherpad for bugs tracked for Pike backports: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-bug-fix-backports
21:05:16 <mriedem> #info Pike 16.0.2 is released
21:05:23 <mriedem> #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z
21:05:29 <mriedem> #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z
21:05:34 <mriedem> #info Waiting on final newton release before EOL: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512905/ - which depends on a backport of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514339/
21:05:44 <mriedem> #help need reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514339/
21:06:00 <mriedem> would like to get ^ merged by eod tomorrow so we can start backports to get it to newton,
21:06:09 <mriedem> so we can do the final newton release probably early next week
21:06:14 <mriedem> and then tonyb can eol the branch
21:06:30 <mriedem> #topic subteam highlights
21:06:35 <mriedem> dansmith: cellsv2 things
21:06:40 <dansmith> we had a meeting
21:06:54 <dansmith> where we discussed a couple of open patches, including the one from tssurya_
21:06:59 <dansmith> which I have since commented on
21:07:05 <dansmith> and the serieses from melwitt
21:07:27 <dansmith> I think I mentioned that edleafe's series needs eyes as that's kinda the highest priority cellsv2 series
21:07:32 <dansmith> since mriedem took a dump on mine
21:07:40 <dansmith> no new bugs or other things really
21:07:41 <dansmith> I think that's it
21:07:44 <melwitt> which is edleafe's?
21:07:50 <mriedem> alternate hosts
21:07:50 <dansmith> the alternates one
21:07:53 <edleafe> alternate hosts
21:07:55 <melwitt> I must have missed that. okay
21:07:56 <melwitt> thanks
21:08:01 <edleafe> triple jinx!
21:08:10 <mriedem> starts here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513931/
21:08:11 * dansmith punches mriedem and edleafe simultaneously
21:08:24 <melwitt> cool got it
21:08:42 <mriedem> dansmith: that it?
21:08:54 <dansmith> [14:07:41]  <dansmith>	I think that's it
21:08:58 <mriedem> heh
21:08:59 <mriedem> oops
21:09:02 <mriedem> thanks
21:09:05 <mriedem> edleafe: scheduler stuff
21:09:09 <edleafe> Progress on the nested RP series was slowed by Jay's job switch, but are getting back on track
21:09:12 <edleafe> Discussed how limits are used (and mis-used), and that we need to include them in the Selection object.
21:09:15 <edleafe> Agreed that there isn't a good reason to forbid removing a trait on an RP that has allocations
21:09:18 <edleafe> Clarified that traits describe what a RP is capable of, and not its current status.
21:09:21 <edleafe> that's it
21:09:24 <edleafe> (don't ask again!)
21:09:32 <dansmith> so edleafe , anything else?
21:09:40 <mriedem> "Clarified that traits describe what a RP is capable of, and not its current status."
21:09:41 * edleafe punches dansmith
21:09:56 <mriedem> i'm going to be happy to talk about that every week for the rest of our lives
21:10:08 <mriedem> moving on
21:10:13 <mriedem> api meeting - i was there...
21:10:24 <mriedem> mostly talked about gmann's api extension policy deprecation spec
21:10:34 <mriedem> i think that was about it
21:10:50 <mriedem> notifications - there was no meeting this week since gibi was on PTO
21:10:56 <mriedem> or holiday or something
21:11:05 <mriedem> he left some notes
21:11:09 <mriedem> We have some notification transformation patches needing a second +2: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-queens+status:open+label:Code-Review%253D2
21:11:23 <mriedem> Last week I got the AP to check if author of the approved bp  service-create-destroy-notification is still planning to push the  implementation. I talked to him and the answer is yes.
21:11:35 <mriedem> AP = action plan?
21:11:40 <mriedem> adrian peterson?
21:11:51 <mriedem> that's it for notifications
21:12:05 <mriedem> cinder - waiting on this in cinder now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509005/
21:12:18 <mriedem> new microversion which we're going to use on the nova side for the new attach flow
21:12:36 <mriedem> #topic stuck reviews
21:12:42 <mriedem> nothing on the agenda
21:12:48 <mriedem> did anyone have something to bring up here?
21:13:06 <mriedem> #topic open discussion
21:13:12 <mriedem> (hshiina) specless blueprint request: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/baremetal-migration-evacuation
21:13:20 <mriedem> hshiina does not appear to be around
21:13:31 <mriedem> "This BP is focusing on baremetal migration and resize with booting from  volume now. This can be done only with ironic driver change."
21:13:49 <mriedem> so it's not accurate to say it's specless since there is a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449155/
21:14:02 <mriedem> and i think there needs to be a spec because while resize is a feature parity blueprint for ironic,
21:14:19 <mriedem> we have to consider the fact we have lots of assumptions in the code that move operations don't happen for ironic (except evacuate)
21:14:29 <dansmith> agree
21:14:32 <mriedem> and we do a lot of ComputeNodeList[0] "because this isn't ironic"
21:14:48 <melwitt> so that one has to get pushed out to rocky since we already had spec freeze right
21:14:53 <mriedem> so since we're past spec freeze and this isn't trivial,
21:14:58 <mriedem> yeah i think it gets deferred to rocky
21:15:18 <mriedem> i think the thing to do here is work in the POC and get that all solid with testing *before* rocky,
21:15:22 <mriedem> so it's ready to go when we open up
21:15:32 * jaypipes wonders what the use case for resizing a boot-from-volume ironic node actually is... :(
21:15:40 <mriedem> it's evacuate
21:15:42 <mriedem> they are doing evacuate
21:15:45 <mriedem> but via resize
21:15:51 <mriedem> hence some more confusion in the spec
21:15:57 <jaypipes> what does that even mean? :(
21:16:07 <mriedem> the driver will take down the source node,
21:16:08 <dansmith> jaypipes: prized pets
21:16:14 <mriedem> move things over to the dest node
21:16:19 <dansmith> show dogs
21:16:23 <mriedem> and they do the disk via the root volume
21:16:40 <jaypipes> ugh
21:16:46 <mriedem> and if you didn't bfv, resize + ironic will blow up in the ocmpute
21:16:47 <mriedem> *compute
21:16:51 <dansmith> cattle-sized pets
21:17:00 <mriedem> so, a horse?
21:17:09 <dansmith> the kind you spend $10k of the kid's college money on new knees at 7 years old
21:17:09 <jaypipes> panda
21:17:22 <mriedem> ok so that was it for open discussion
21:17:28 <mriedem> anyone have anything else?
21:17:31 <mriedem> questions about the summit at all?
21:17:32 <dansmith> instead of $1.50 on a syringe of the good stuff and call it a day
21:17:58 <mriedem> alright then,
21:18:00 <mriedem> talk to you next week
21:18:02 <mriedem> #endmeeting