21:00:08 <melwitt> #startmeeting nova
21:00:10 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Apr 26 21:00:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:13 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:00:17 <melwitt> hello everybody
21:00:23 <edleafe> \o
21:00:31 <takashin> o/
21:00:32 <dansmith> o/
21:00:55 <melwitt> #topic Release News
21:01:02 <melwitt> #link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule
21:01:10 <melwitt> r-1 was last thursday and we did a bunch of releases
21:01:16 <melwitt> #link rocky 18.0.0.0b1 released on 2018-04-20: https://review.openstack.org/562896
21:01:18 <patchbot> patch 562896 - releases - nova: release rocky 18.0.0.0b1 (MERGED)
21:01:24 <melwitt> #link python-novaclient 10.2.0 released on 2018-04-20: https://review.openstack.org/562804
21:01:25 <patchbot> patch 562804 - releases - rocky: release python-novaclient 10.2.0 (MERGED)
21:01:31 <melwitt> #link os-traits 0.6.0 released on 2018-04-19: https://review.openstack.org/562834
21:01:31 <patchbot> patch 562834 - releases - os-traits: rocky release 0.6.0 (MERGED)
21:01:37 <melwitt> #link osc-placement 0.1.0 relased on 2018-04-19: https://review.openstack.org/562787
21:01:38 <patchbot> patch 562787 - releases - osc-placement: release 1.1.0 for rocky (MERGED)
21:01:59 <melwitt> #link Rocky review runways: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-rocky
21:02:08 <melwitt> current runways status:
21:02:13 <melwitt> #link runway #1: XenAPI: Support a new image handler for non-FS based SRs [END DATE: 2018-05-11] series starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497201
21:02:13 <patchbot> patch 497201 - nova - XenAPI: deprecate the config for image handler cla...
21:02:26 <melwitt> #link runway #2: Consoles database backend [END DATE: 2018-05-01] series starting at https://review.openstack.org/325381
21:02:26 <patchbot> patch 325381 - nova - Add periodic task to clean expired console tokens (MERGED)
21:02:32 <melwitt> #link runway #3: Add host/hostId to instance action events API [END DATE: 2018-05-08] series starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556746
21:02:32 <tssurya> o/
21:02:32 <patchbot> patch 556746 - nova - Record the host info in EventReporter (MERGED)
21:02:40 <melwitt> that patchbot is kinda distracting
21:03:03 <efried> ō/
21:03:21 <melwitt> there are several blueprints in the queue that are blocked and notes have been made on the etherpad for each
21:03:30 <mriedem> o/
21:03:42 <melwitt> anyone have anything to add for release news or runways?
21:04:15 <melwitt> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
21:04:26 <melwitt> no critical bugs in the link
21:04:31 <melwitt> #link 31 new untriaged bugs (down 4 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
21:04:42 <melwitt> #link 8 untagged untriaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW
21:05:02 <melwitt> thanks to those who have been helping with triage and getting the untriaged count down
21:05:11 <melwitt> #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags
21:05:22 <melwitt> ^ how-to instructions if you can help out
21:05:37 <melwitt> Gate status:
21:05:43 <melwitt> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html
21:05:53 <melwitt> I'm not aware of any issues in the gate lately
21:06:00 <melwitt> 3rd party CI:
21:06:05 <melwitt> #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days
21:06:25 <melwitt> some of the third party CIs have been failing for awhile, need to follow up on those
21:06:39 <melwitt> anybody have anything else on bugs or gate status or third party CI?
21:07:04 <melwitt> #topic Reminders
21:07:10 <melwitt> #link Rocky Review Priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-nova-priorities-tracking
21:07:20 <melwitt> ye olde etherpad for subteams and bugs ^
21:07:43 <melwitt> any other reminders people want to mention?
21:08:03 <melwitt> #topic Stable branch status
21:08:15 <melwitt> we did a bunch of stable branch releases
21:08:21 <melwitt> #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z
21:08:26 <melwitt> #link queens 17.0.3 released on 2018-04-25: https://review.openstack.org/562806
21:08:27 <patchbot> patch 562806 - releases - nova: release queens 17.0.3 (MERGED)
21:08:32 <melwitt> #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z
21:08:36 <melwitt> #link pike 16.1.2 released on 2018-04-25: https://review.openstack.org/562879
21:08:37 <patchbot> patch 562879 - releases - nova: release pike 16.1.2 (MERGED)
21:08:41 <melwitt> #link python-novaclient 9.1.2 released on 2018-04-25: https://review.openstack.org/562820
21:08:42 <patchbot> patch 562820 - releases - pike: release python-novaclient 9.1.2 (MERGED)
21:08:47 <melwitt> #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z
21:08:53 <melwitt> #link ocata 15.1.1 proposed: https://review.openstack.org/564044
21:08:53 <patchbot> patch 564044 - releases - nova: release ocata 15.1.1
21:09:42 <melwitt> it's really nice to see those stable review lists caught up, thank you to all who did stable reviews last week and this week
21:10:02 <melwitt> anything else for stable branches?
21:10:21 <melwitt> #topic Subteam Highlights
21:10:51 <melwitt> dansmith: cells v2, we skipped the meeting and belmoreira and tssurya said they're upgrading to cells v2 this week. anything more to add?
21:11:12 <dansmith> nay
21:11:33 <melwitt> edleafe: scheduler
21:11:35 <edleafe> Quick meeting. cdent ran it, as I got pulled into a worthless meeting.
21:11:38 <edleafe> Not much was discussed. They agreed it was better to get back to reviewing, and did just that.
21:11:43 <edleafe> short and sweet
21:11:49 <melwitt> nice
21:11:59 <melwitt> gibi has left some notes on notifications:
21:12:09 <melwitt> "we talked about the bp add-server-group-remove-member-notifications as takashi provided the PoC code we requested. mriedem summarized the problems about the change on the ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129804.html"
21:12:38 <melwitt> #link issues with bp add-server-group-remove-member-notifications http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129804.html
21:12:50 <melwitt> "we also talked about the bp add-full-traceback-to-error-notifications . I'm busy with the bandwidth spec so we agreed to ask help from Kevin_Zheng and he already proposed a WIP patch for the bp"
21:13:12 <melwitt> #link WIP patch for  bp add-full-traceback-to-error-notifications https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564092/
21:13:12 <patchbot> patch 564092 - nova - WIP
21:13:24 <melwitt> "last but not least the implementation of the bp add-request-id-to-instance-action-notifications has been completed and merged. \o/"
21:13:34 <melwitt> anything else for subteams?
21:13:48 <melwitt> #topic Stuck Reviews
21:14:02 <melwitt> no items in the agenda. does anyone have any stuck reviews to bring up?
21:14:27 <melwitt> #topic Open discussion
21:14:41 <melwitt> no items in the agenda. does anyone have anything they'd like to discuss openly?
21:15:22 <melwitt> going once
21:15:32 <melwitt> going twice
21:15:40 <arvindn0_> quick question
21:16:02 <melwitt> go ahead
21:16:29 <arvindn0_> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560718/ - glance image tratis
21:16:30 <patchbot> patch 560718 - nova-specs - Handle rebuild of instance with new image
21:16:51 <arvindn0_> is under discussion on the mail chain....i think there was a shoutout to openstack operators ML
21:17:15 <mriedem> i haven't gotten back to the thread since it exploded
21:17:18 <arvindn0_> how long do we wait for a response before we move forward...just curious
21:17:42 <arvindn0_> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129726.html
21:17:50 <arvindn0_> thats the ML for context
21:18:15 <melwitt> #link ML thread about bp/glance-image-traits http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129726.html
21:18:49 <efried> So at the end of that thread we wound up with two options.
21:19:17 <efried> The original #1 - make it an error - and using allocations to figure out which RPs were applicable and getting traits from those and making sure all image traits were therein.
21:19:35 <efried> arvindn0_: Does that gel with your understanding?
21:19:54 <arvindn0_> yup
21:20:14 <arvindn0_> error in case image traits have changed on the image
21:21:05 <mriedem> make it an error where? api? scheduler?
21:21:27 <arvindn0_> and making it a clear message saying that the image properties have changed hence a relaunch is recommended
21:21:30 <arvindn0_> in teh conductor
21:21:35 <mriedem> pew
21:21:45 <mriedem> so the user gets a 202 and then rebuild fails but they don't know why
21:21:46 <mriedem> yay!
21:21:48 <mriedem> tech debt
21:21:55 <arvindn0_> bauzas did not want addtional validations in scheduler
21:22:14 <mriedem> we should probably not design this here, unless more people are involved; i haven't gotten caught up in the thread
21:22:17 <efried> The discussion of where the error happens seems orthogonal.
21:22:27 <arvindn0_> why is it a 202? should it not follow the same noValidhost exception with a different message?
21:22:32 <efried> Because both options will require an error to be generated in certain circumstances.
21:22:35 <mriedem> api casts to conductor
21:22:36 <mriedem> hence 202
21:22:50 <efried> 202 means "we got your request and are processing it" - it's for async requests.
21:23:08 <mriedem> so can we punt on this until i'm caught up on the ML thread?
21:23:16 <mriedem> i'm assuming most other people in this meeting don't care
21:23:18 <arvindn0_> yep...thats fine
21:23:52 <arvindn0_> i would really like to get the operators input as well...but if they dont reply...wanted to set a timer :)
21:24:16 <mriedem> there is no timer,
21:24:17 <efried> If they haven't replied by now, they're not gonna, unless you want to follow up and ask.
21:24:25 <melwitt> it's only been a few days, fwiw
21:24:28 <mriedem> the only timer is on me and my priority for it depends on how much people bug me about it
21:24:48 * arvindn0_ bugs mriedem all day :)
21:24:57 <melwitt> okay, so we'll continue on the ML thread and on IRC
21:25:04 <arvindn0_> yup...thanks
21:25:19 <melwitt> cool. anything else for open discussion?
21:25:55 <melwitt> alright, we'll wrap up then. thanks everyone
21:25:59 <melwitt> #endmeeting