21:00:20 <melwitt> #startmeeting nova
21:00:21 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 16 21:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:24 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:00:28 <dansmith> o/
21:00:30 <melwitt> hi everyone
21:00:34 <takashin> o/
21:00:49 <melwitt> I think this is going to be a short meeting
21:00:55 <melwitt> let's start
21:01:02 <melwitt> #topic Release News
21:01:08 <melwitt> #link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule
21:01:20 <melwitt> we're working on an RC2 right now
21:01:26 <melwitt> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-release-candidate-todo
21:01:29 <efried> ō/
21:01:31 <melwitt> see the etherpad for details ^
21:02:12 <melwitt> we're finishing up review on some documentation we're landing for RC2, once those merge, we backport them to stable/rocky, then once they merge there, we can cut RC2
21:02:35 <melwitt> anyone have anything to add or questions about release news?
21:02:52 <melwitt> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
21:03:02 <melwitt> no critical bugs in the link
21:03:08 <melwitt> #link 40 new untriaged bugs (down 3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
21:03:13 <melwitt> #link 2 untagged untriaged bugs (same since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW
21:03:37 <melwitt> we've been chipping away at the untriaged bugs, which is good. thanks to everyone who is helping with that
21:03:59 <edleafe> \o
21:04:04 <melwitt> as always, we can use MOAR help with triage
21:04:06 <melwitt> #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags
21:04:09 <melwitt> #help need help with bug triage
21:04:16 <melwitt> Gate status:
21:04:20 <melwitt> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html
21:04:37 <melwitt> things have been mostly smooth, it seems. but I've been seeing some TIMED_OUT and POST_FAILURE of late
21:04:46 <melwitt> 3rd party CI:
21:04:51 <melwitt> #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days
21:05:01 <melwitt> I'm not aware of any new issues with third party CI
21:05:14 <melwitt> anyone have anything else for bugs, gate status, and third party CI?
21:05:30 <melwitt> #topic Reminders
21:05:37 <melwitt> #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking
21:06:05 <melwitt> I create this etherpad yesterday ^ for subteams to use to organize patches and help bring attention to reviews
21:06:30 <melwitt> this is separate from runways, just a place for subteams to coordinate together and highlight reviews that are not in runways
21:07:36 <melwitt> I've created the etherpad skeleton for stein review runways but wasn't sure when we'll start. I had thought, the week after the PTG
21:08:07 <melwitt> but probably if things get approved before then, we'll just start earlier
21:08:19 <melwitt> #link Stein PTG planning: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein
21:08:33 <melwitt> add your topics to the planning etherpad ^
21:08:46 <melwitt> I'll probably be going through soon to sort things into categories to help organize it
21:08:53 <melwitt> #link Rocky retrospective for the PTG: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-retrospective
21:09:17 <melwitt> and the separate etherpad for the retro segment ^, also linked on the ptg planning etherpad
21:09:29 <melwitt> please feel free to add your thoughts and comments there for discussion at the ptg
21:09:40 <melwitt> that's all I have for reminders. anyone have anything else?
21:10:00 <melwitt> #topic Stable branch status
21:10:07 <melwitt> #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z
21:10:12 <melwitt> #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z
21:10:17 <melwitt> #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z
21:10:47 <melwitt> I had planned to propose stable releases last week, but in light of the recent issue with the slow live migrations, I've been waiting until those backports land first
21:11:04 <melwitt> once they do, I'll propose the stable releases for queens, pike, ocata
21:11:13 <melwitt> anyone have anything else for stable branch status?
21:11:37 <melwitt> #topic Subteam Highlights
21:12:08 <melwitt> cells v2, we skipped the meeting this week. dansmith, anything you wanted to call out?
21:12:23 <dansmith> not much, other than that the huawei boyz did some profiling on the ML,
21:12:33 <dansmith> found one not-cellsv2 bug and posted a fix
21:12:39 <melwitt> nice
21:12:49 <dansmith> I replied about their performance concerns, and have a patch up for the thing I told them was impossibly hard
21:13:14 <dansmith> and I think we have discussion fodder for this week until and maybe including a meeting next week,
21:13:17 <dansmith> but I haven't looked yet
21:13:18 <dansmith> that's all
21:13:41 <melwitt> ah, right. cells meeting agenda items to take a look at, on the meeting wiki
21:13:43 <melwitt> cool, thanks
21:13:51 <melwitt> efried: scheduler?
21:13:58 <efried> one sec
21:14:22 <efried> #link Scheduler meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-08-13-14.00.html
21:14:26 <efried> We had a busy meeting this week.
21:14:30 <efried> We noted that pupdate silence is not golden.
21:14:37 <efried> Stein is open; pushing to get
21:14:37 <efried> #link reshaper series https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/reshape-provider-tree+status:open
21:14:37 <efried> reviewed and merged quickly so we can get on with other nrp work
21:14:46 <efried> #link Gigantor SQL split and debug logging: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590041/
21:14:46 <efried> This has undergone internal reviews, so we sent a followup
21:14:52 <efried> #link request for reviews on placement debug logging to the dev ML http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133290.html
21:14:52 <efried> and got a couple of positive responses. Let's merge this thing. It's definitely an improvement, and we can always tweak it later.
21:15:03 <efried> #link consumer generation handling (gibi) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583667/
21:15:03 <efried> has solidified quite a bit, and there's now a
21:15:03 <efried> #link dev ML thread discussing how we should handle consumer generation conflicts http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133373.html
21:15:03 <efried> I believe gibi is PTO for a bit.
21:15:11 <efried> gibi also revived the
21:15:11 <efried> #link tests for nested and shared providers for initial & migration allocations, series starting at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585672
21:15:11 <efried> by folding it into the above.
21:15:28 <efried> sigh, spambotted again. What's the last thing you saw?
21:15:38 <melwitt> <efried>	by folding it into the above.
21:15:47 <efried> Anyone have the authority to kick Sigyn out of this channel?
21:16:00 <efried> Stein specs-wise, we noted the introduction by kosamara of
21:16:00 <efried> #link Placement model for PCI devices https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/
21:16:00 <efried> which is evolving into the introduction of the "generic device management" framework we discussed in Denver a year ago.
21:16:14 <efried> Bugs of note, cdent found
21:16:15 <efried> #link concurrency problems creating aggregates https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1786703
21:16:15 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1786703 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Placement duplicate aggregate uuid handling during concurrent aggregate create insufficiently robust" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Jay Pipes (jaypipes)
21:16:29 <efried> jaypipes is working on solving this. One attempt has been abandoned; the current effort is at
21:16:29 <efried> #link do aggregate swapout piecemeal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592654/
21:17:42 <efried> We talked about placement extraction again, and cdent has since created
21:17:42 <efried> #link etherpad for placement extraction todos https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-extract-stein
21:17:42 <efried> to seed discussion in Denver.
21:18:33 <efried> We talked about playing with placement at scale to see where our perf holes are etc.
21:18:43 <efried> cdent created a
21:18:43 <efried> #link github repo to set up a bunch of providers: https://github.com/cdent/placeload
21:19:22 <efried> and has since landed a
21:19:23 <efried> #link patch to make the nova-next job run a rudimentary benchmark with placeload https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591367/
21:20:07 <efried> #link improvements are being made to the placeload benchmark script https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cd/exp-placement-perf+status:open
21:20:41 <efried> That's the summary. Questions, comments, concerns?
21:21:33 <melwitt> you definitely had a lot going on this week at the meeting :)
21:21:53 <efried> true story
21:22:05 <melwitt> thanks for the update, I'll check out the meeting log later
21:22:16 <melwitt> ok, gibi left some notes for notifications
21:22:23 <melwitt> no meeting this week
21:22:31 <melwitt> and "We got couple of response on ML about the deprecation of the legacy notifications. I've updated the PTG etherpad with the information"
21:22:50 <melwitt> gmann left a note that there was no API subteam office hour this week, nothing new to share
21:23:04 <melwitt> moving on
21:23:09 <melwitt> #topic Stuck Reviews
21:23:21 <melwitt> nothing in the agenda. does anyone in the room have anything for stuck reviews?
21:23:53 <melwitt> #topic Open discussion
21:24:04 <melwitt> anyone have anything for open discussion?
21:24:31 <dansmith> end it.
21:24:35 <melwitt> ok, let's wrap up. thanks everyone
21:24:40 <melwitt> #endmeeting