21:00:18 <melwitt> #startmeeting nova 21:00:19 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 11 21:00:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:20 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 21:00:28 <takashin> o/ 21:00:32 <dansmith> o. 21:00:37 <melwitt> good afternoon everyone 21:00:44 <mriedem> o/ 21:01:28 <melwitt> just us? ok 21:01:30 <cfriesen> \o 21:01:37 <melwitt> #topic Release News 21:01:45 <melwitt> #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule 21:01:46 <edleafe> \o 21:01:48 <efried> ō/ 21:02:04 <melwitt> milestone 1 s-1 is on Oct 25 21:02:31 <melwitt> we're doing spec freeze at s-2 Jan 10 next year 21:02:51 <melwitt> but still, now is a good time to be reviewing specs and I see lots of reviewers doing that (GOOD!) 21:03:20 <melwitt> lots of new specs being proposed too, so keep an eye out 21:03:35 <melwitt> #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein 21:03:43 <melwitt> #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend (brinzhang)[END:2018-10-14] starts at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604687 21:03:56 <melwitt> we need more review on this one ^ as it's ending soon 21:04:18 <melwitt> mriedem has tested it with devstack and it works 21:04:24 <mriedem> i'm fixing up the busted tests 21:04:28 <mriedem> should be done shortly 21:04:33 <melwitt> awesome 21:04:50 <melwitt> thanks for doing that 21:05:05 <melwitt> next runway, part 2 of nested-allocation-candidates 21:05:07 <melwitt> #link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-nested-allocation-candidates (gibi) [END: 2018-10-23] next patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605785 21:05:27 <melwitt> and finally, gmann has some api extension merge work ready 21:05:28 <melwitt> #link runway #3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-extensions-merge-stein (gmann) [END: 2018-10-25] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-extensions-merge-stein+status:open 21:06:02 <melwitt> anything else or any questions about release related stuff? 21:06:15 <melwitt> oh, I just remembered 21:06:33 <melwitt> I proposed a patch for stein priorities here https://review.openstack.org/609807 for our cycle themes 21:06:39 <melwitt> reviews appreciated 21:07:05 <melwitt> ok, anything else before we move on? 21:07:13 <melwitt> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) 21:07:25 <melwitt> no critical bugs in the link 21:07:32 <melwitt> #link 61 new untriaged bugs (down 4 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 21:07:43 <melwitt> chipping away slowly at the new bugs 21:07:57 <melwitt> thanks to all who have been helping out 21:08:04 <melwitt> keep it up! 21:08:12 <melwitt> #link 6 untagged untriaged bugs (down 15 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW 21:08:26 <melwitt> shoutout to takashin for doing a lot of bug tagging 21:08:42 <melwitt> #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags 21:08:56 <melwitt> please help triage bugs with tags you have some knowledge n 21:08:58 <melwitt> *in 21:09:05 <melwitt> #help need help with bug triage 21:09:09 <melwitt> Gate status 21:09:14 <melwitt> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html 21:09:23 <melwitt> I've seen a lot of timeouts 21:09:48 <melwitt> Overall Categorization Rate: 64.7% 21:10:06 <melwitt> for unclassified failed integrated gate jobs 21:10:17 <melwitt> 3rd party CI 21:10:23 <melwitt> #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days 21:10:42 <melwitt> anyone have anything to talk about bugs or gate status or third party CI? 21:11:05 <melwitt> #topic Reminders 21:11:11 <melwitt> #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking 21:11:15 <melwitt> ye olde etherpad 21:11:52 <melwitt> I think that's all I have for reminders. anyone else have reminders to add? 21:12:06 <melwitt> #topic Stable branch status 21:12:13 <melwitt> #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z 21:12:28 <melwitt> #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z 21:12:40 <melwitt> #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z 21:12:45 <melwitt> #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z 21:12:58 <melwitt> we recently had a big push to clear out stable reviews to cut ocata-em 21:13:05 <mriedem> oh i guess ocata-em finally went through 21:13:05 <mriedem> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608296/ 21:13:16 <mriedem> oh i see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609026/ 21:13:28 <mriedem> #thanks dhellmann for sorting out -em release tooling 21:13:30 <melwitt> indeed 21:14:05 <melwitt> thanks mriedem for driving ocata-em for us 21:14:14 <mriedem> right off the cliff 21:14:20 <melwitt> haha 21:14:53 <melwitt> I see we've a lot of stable reviews that have appeared after the flush, so there's more to review 21:15:22 <melwitt> that's all I have for stable branch status. anyone have anything else? 21:15:53 <melwitt> #topic Subteam Highlights 21:16:18 <melwitt> cells v2, we removed the recurring meeting from openstack meetings since we canceled the meeting more often than we had it 21:16:41 <dansmith> \o/ 21:17:11 <melwitt> I've got a patch proposed for fixing the nova-consoleauth situation that will need to be backported to rocky https://review.openstack.org/607068 21:17:26 <melwitt> that's related to the per cell console proxy work from rocky 21:17:39 <melwitt> anything else to highlight dansmith, mriedem? 21:17:45 <dansmith> meh 21:17:54 <melwitt> alrighty 21:17:59 <melwitt> scheduler, efried? 21:18:08 <efried> yeaux 21:18:15 <efried> #link NovaScheduler meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-08-14.00.html 21:18:24 <efried> Discussed the whole migrating/evacuating to/from nested thing, which led to 21:18:24 <efried> #link ML post about the whole migrating/evacuating to/from nested thing http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135551.html 21:18:32 <efried> #link Spec: drop the `force` flag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609330/ 21:18:32 <efried> #link Reworked patch for nrp migration/evacuate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605785/ 21:18:38 <efried> Extraction: upgrade work is getting close 21:18:45 <efried> Talked about 21:18:45 <efried> #link initial allocation ratio spec we're probably going to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/ 21:18:45 <efried> in favor of 21:18:45 <efried> #link initial allocation ratio spec we're probably going to keep https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552105/ 21:18:51 <efried> And more talk (but not more movement) about customizing provider attributes by extracting the yaml file format aspects of 21:18:52 <efried> #link device passthrough spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/ 21:18:54 <efried> END 21:19:19 <melwitt> coolness. glad the allocation ratio issue is getting sorted 21:19:43 <melwitt> thanks all who are helping with that 21:19:59 <mriedem> i think, 21:20:04 <mriedem> the allocation ratio specs are still... 21:20:05 <mriedem> something 21:20:22 <mriedem> yikun is going to be working the initial allocation ratio config one, 21:20:25 <mriedem> which everyone agrees on, 21:20:31 <melwitt> guh, really? I thought we had a plan at the PTG. a guess some snag was hit 21:20:35 <mriedem> the other one is about proxying allocation ratios from the compute api to the placement api 21:20:50 <mriedem> and *that* spec is all sorts of old 21:20:58 <mriedem> and i'm not sure we all agree that proxying is cool 21:21:08 <mriedem> although i'm sure users would prefer that 21:21:21 <melwitt> what we talked about at the ptg didn't involve proxying, I didn't think 21:21:23 <mriedem> anywho, the proxy spec is lower priority at this point given people can do things with the placement API directly 21:21:33 <mriedem> i don't remember talking about the proxy aspect of that in denver, 21:21:36 <mriedem> but we did in dublin 21:21:41 <dansmith> yup 21:21:52 <mriedem> as an osc placement CLI helper 21:21:59 <mriedem> then that turned into a proxy API thing in the nova spec somehow 21:22:10 <melwitt> urgh ok 21:22:32 <mriedem> anyway, 21:22:32 <sean-k-mooney> mriedem: the proxying behavior wont effect the config part however correct so that effort can still continue 21:22:37 <mriedem> i've told yikun to work on the config option one first, 21:22:41 <mriedem> and we'll deal with the proxy thing later 21:22:56 <melwitt> ok 21:23:46 <melwitt> moving on, no from gibi for notifications. the weekly meeting was canceled indefinitely about a week ago, so maybe I'm supposed to remove the notification subteam section 21:23:52 <melwitt> *no notes 21:24:21 <melwitt> and gmann left a API subteam weekly update 21:24:27 <melwitt> #link API subteam weekly update http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135673.html 21:24:42 <melwitt> anyone have anything else for subteams? 21:24:55 <melwitt> #topic Stuck Reviews 21:25:04 <melwitt> no items in the agenda. anyone in the room have something for stuck reviews? 21:25:15 <melwitt> #topic Open discussion 21:25:25 <melwitt> I think this first item might be from last week 21:25:31 <melwitt> HPET support on x86 guests: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-hpet-on-guest 21:25:56 <cfriesen> yeah, I think that's left over 21:25:57 <melwitt> that has a spec, so review is going on in the spec 21:26:01 <melwitt> thanks cfriesen 21:26:09 <melwitt> next agenda item is 21:26:11 <melwitt> Add support for emulated virtual TPM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571111 21:26:11 <jackding> I just uploaded a new change to the spec, though not quite complete 21:26:26 <melwitt> ok jackding, thanks 21:26:36 <cfriesen> so I think the TPM one is basically ready for review. we've got agreement on the trait names 21:26:56 <cfriesen> sean-k-mooney has given +1 on the technical side 21:27:06 <melwitt> ah, ok. so this is a heads up that this spec is ready-for-review 21:27:10 <cfriesen> yes 21:27:13 <melwitt> cool 21:27:34 <melwitt> I have one thing I wanted to mention briefly 21:27:46 <melwitt> #link rocky RC time regression analysis http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135494.html 21:28:16 <melwitt> I went through the bugs we experienced during RC time last cycle and captured some info about why they weren't caught earlier, etc 21:28:34 <melwitt> trying to see if any of it was related to the later spec freeze at milestone 2 21:28:46 <melwitt> it didn't seem to me that any of it was related, fwiw 21:29:14 <melwitt> it looks like we might be able to enhance our test coverage a bit to cover some of the gaps that allowed the regressions in (thanks for the reply mriedem) 21:30:11 <melwitt> as for what we can do going forward, there isn't a clear answer. but I was thinking maybe it would help to do a shoutout to the dev and ops lists after we cut the milestone 3 release and encourage people to try it out 21:30:25 <melwitt> because nearly all the bugs found were from people trying out RC1, I think 21:30:53 <melwitt> if you have any thoughts about it, feel free to reply on the thread. thanks 21:31:22 <melwitt> ok, does anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss in open discussion? 21:31:24 <mriedem> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend+(status:open+OR+status:merged) is ready to go (i've fixed up the false positives in the tests) 21:31:49 <dansmith> I have to go do a thing when we're done here but will try to hit those when I get back 21:32:03 <dansmith> re-hit them 21:32:04 <mriedem> i will sound the wechat alarm once approved 21:32:16 <melwitt> haha 21:32:38 <melwitt> nice work on all that, awesome to get it done so early in the cycle 21:32:51 <dansmith> fin? 21:32:53 <melwitt> ok, if that's all for today, we shall wrap up 21:32:56 <melwitt> thanks everyone 21:32:59 <melwitt> #endmeeting