16:00:17 <gibi> #startmeeting nova 16:00:18 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Tue Jun 8 16:00:17 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:19 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:21 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 16:00:28 <bauzas> \o 16:00:32 <gibi> o/ 16:00:42 <elodilles> o/ 16:00:51 * kashyap waves 16:01:24 <gmann> o/ 16:02:33 <gibi> I'm just back from a long weekend so I might not be up to date with things 16:02:38 <gibi> anyhow 16:02:41 <gibi> lets get started 16:02:56 <gibi> I do a bit of resuffle for todays agenda 16:03:03 <gibi> as kashyap has a topic but he needs to leave early 16:03:16 <gibi> (kashyap) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-bochs-display-device 16:03:29 <gibi> kashyap: are you looking for bp approval? 16:03:37 <kashyap> gibi: Hi 16:03:45 <kashyap> gibi: Yeah, that too 16:05:12 <kashyap> It's fairly mechanical; and the rationale is: the QEMU folks suggest this as a more effecive alternative to 'qxl' (one of the other display devs) in the long term 16:06:07 <gibi> so it is a new value for an existing flavor extra_spec and image meta? 16:06:46 <kashyap> gibi: Yep; mostly for image meta 16:07:04 <bauzas> uupgrade impact, maybe ? 16:07:21 <kashyap> gibi: Here's the WIP patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794796 16:07:35 <bauzas> what happens for existing instances ? 16:07:57 <gibi> bauzas: I think we still support all the existing display devices 16:08:06 <kashyap> bauzas: What gibi said 16:08:12 <stephenfin> o/ 16:08:13 <gibi> bauzas: so old instances use whathever they was booted with 16:08:14 <bauzas> ok, so we are not changing the default value ? 16:08:14 <kashyap> We're not deprecating any existing devices upstream 16:08:19 <kashyap> bauzas: No, we're not :) 16:08:23 <bauzas> ack 16:08:39 <kashyap> bauzas: Simply making another option that is safer and simpler possible. 16:08:39 <gibi> as of upgrade, kashyap do you need any changes on the compute service? 16:08:49 <bauzas> so it's just a new option then 16:09:07 <kashyap> gibi: No; I don't see any for that. It's simply a mechanical yet-another-possible-option 16:09:07 <bauzas> and then just a documentation question 16:09:10 <gibi> as far as I see the WIP patch does not change the compute manager or the virt driver 16:09:14 <kashyap> (Yes, docs; of course) 16:09:20 <gibi> kashyap: cool 16:09:23 <kashyap> gibi: Yep; you notice it well :) 16:09:37 <bauzas> okay, so it looks to me a non-spec BP 16:09:37 <gibi> so the old computes will support the new option out of the box 16:09:39 <gibi> that is cool 16:09:55 <bauzas> yup 16:10:03 <gibi> any objection to to approve this as a specless bp? 16:10:34 <kashyap> (We satisfy thea min_required_libvirt version too -- the current in-tree version is above what's required. So we're good there too.) 16:10:39 * dansmith stumbles in late 16:11:09 * gibi lets stephenfin and dansmith to read back and possibly object against the bp approval 16:11:27 <stephenfin> no issues from me - I've already started reviewing the patches :) 16:11:32 <dansmith> for the bochs display? 16:11:35 <gibi> dansmith: yes 16:11:38 <gibi> stephenfin: ack 16:11:43 <dansmith> does it not require a new console proxy? 16:11:47 <dansmith> or is this just guest-facing? 16:12:14 <dansmith> ah, it's a guest device, I see 16:12:18 <dansmith> yeah, no objection 16:12:42 <gibi> cool 16:12:50 <gibi> then I will approve the bp after the meeting 16:13:01 <gibi> kashyap: is that all about this topic? 16:13:22 <kashyap> gibi: That's all on it 16:13:25 <gibi> kashyap: thanks 16:13:31 <gibi> then lets go back to the normal agenda 16:13:40 <gibi> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) 16:13:48 <gibi> no critical bugs 16:13:48 <kashyap> dansmith: Yes, you parsed it right 16:14:10 <gibi> 10 new untriage bugs (+1 since the last meeting) 16:14:27 <gibi> I guess we have limited inflow as summer hits 16:14:39 <gibi> any specific bugs we need to talk about today? 16:16:02 <gibi> #topic Gate status 16:16:08 <gibi> placement periodic jobs are green 16:16:24 <gibi> as I was on PTO in the last two days I'm not up to date about the gate status 16:16:33 <gibi> is there any gate issue? 16:17:01 <dansmith> there was a stable one, 16:17:04 <dansmith> I think melwitt is on it tho 16:17:13 <bauzas> yup 16:18:05 <gibi> is it the one where we install too new Ceph version on stable? 16:18:23 <elodilles> yes (and i linked it in the stable summary :)) 16:18:26 <gibi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-June/022900.html 16:18:30 <gibi> cool 16:18:43 <gibi> anything else about the gate? 16:20:11 <gibi> #topic Release Planning 16:20:15 <gibi> Milestone 2 is 15 of July 16:20:33 <gibi> we will freeze our Xena specs at that point 16:20:53 <gibi> I will propose a spec review day a week before that 16:21:19 <bauzas> lgtm 16:21:42 <gibi> anything else about the release or other deadlines? 16:22:35 <gibi> #topic Stable Branches 16:22:40 <gibi> victoria, ussuri gate is broken due to nova-grenade-multinode job failure ( fix: https://review.opendev.org/q/I02b2b851a74f24816d2f782a66d94de81ee527b0 ) 16:22:44 <gibi> wallaby, train..pike should be OK 16:22:51 <gibi> EOM from elodilles 16:23:03 <gibi> anything else on stable? 16:23:13 <elodilles> nothing else from me 16:23:25 <gibi> elodilles: thanks for the summary 16:23:37 <elodilles> np 16:24:10 <gibi> #topic Sub/related team Highlights 16:24:13 <gibi> Libvirt (bauzas) 16:24:17 <bauzas> nothing to report, EOM from bauzas :-) 16:24:42 <gibi> :) 16:24:47 <gibi> #topic Open discussion 16:25:12 <gibi> we agree to re-discuss the topic of moving this meeting to the the #openstack-nova channel 16:25:32 <dansmith> yes please 16:25:46 <gmann> yeah 16:25:50 <sean-k-mooney> im fine with trying it and i would not have been as late if it was there 16:26:26 <dansmith> note no traffic in -nova since the meeting started :) 16:26:40 <gmann> yeah I was typing the same :) 16:26:50 <gibi> I'm OK to give it a try 16:27:00 <bauzas> well, sometimes we discuss in the -nova channel while we have a meeting 16:27:07 <gibi> we did the Asia friendly office hours last Thursday on nova 16:27:10 <gibi> and it worked 16:27:12 <gmann> fyi, neutron also moving to neutron channel 16:27:24 <bauzas> but we could ask people to discuss in -dev if they want 16:27:43 <gibi> bauzas: true about side discussions, but I think it is even beneficial to do that _after_ the meeting 16:27:44 <dansmith> or wait a few minutes 16:27:52 <gmann> bauzas: or we can ask them to wait to finish the meeting or so 16:27:55 <gibi> :) 16:28:04 <gmann> we do same in QA. 16:28:06 <dansmith> especially if they don't realize there is a meeting because it's in another channel, 16:28:13 <dansmith> and then leave before the rest of the team is finished 16:28:38 <sean-k-mooney> ya if a side discusion betwen people in the meeting we can also just wait 16:28:38 <bauzas> gmann: well, sure, unless folks have a time around 7pm after the meeting ;) 16:29:08 <bauzas> but, meh 16:29:24 <gibi> OK then lets try it. See if it works. 16:29:31 <gibi> if not then we can switch back 16:30:16 <gmann> +1 16:30:19 <gibi> please feel free to approach me with feedback publicly or privately in the future about this 16:30:42 <gibi> I will update the wiki and the eavesdrop page with the information after this meeting 16:31:04 <gibi> and I will drop a mail to the ML 16:31:17 <gibi> any other topic for today? 16:31:22 <tosky> totally unrelated: would anyone complain if I backported https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/741603/ (available since victoria) to ussuri and earlier release? Just to remove a few not used legacy jobs 16:32:01 <gibi> tosky: no objection from me 16:32:15 <sean-k-mooney> from experimenatl no concern form me 16:32:22 <tosky> thanks! I will propose the patches 16:32:24 <gmann> yeah, ok for me too 16:32:29 <gibi> tosky: thanks 16:32:32 <elodilles> neither from me, since it's experimental 16:32:32 <sean-k-mooney> whould we do a review of what in that in general 16:33:12 <gibi> sean-k-mooney: we can do that but honestly if nobody tried to fix them so far then I guess we dont need them 16:33:50 <sean-k-mooney> tempest-pg-full is that postgress 16:33:53 <elodilles> (this ran last in 2020: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-zero-downtime ) 16:35:11 <gibi> sean-k-mooney: the patch only removes legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-zero-downtime and legacy-tempest-dsvm-nova-libvirt-kvm-apr 16:35:20 <sean-k-mooney> oh i know 16:35:40 <sean-k-mooney> i was just lookign to see if there was anything on master we shoudl remove 16:35:41 <gibi> sean-k-mooney: oh you mean review what remains 16:35:47 <sean-k-mooney> or graduate 16:35:57 <sean-k-mooney> ya 16:36:16 <gibi> sean-k-mooney: yeah I guess that make sense 16:36:18 <sean-k-mooney> i tend to avoid running experimatal beacuse of how much stuff is in it 16:36:38 <sean-k-mooney> normally i dont need to but its proably good to prune it form time to time 16:36:40 <gmann> this we can remvoe for sure as devstack does not support opensuse anymore 'tempest-full-py3-opensuse15' 16:37:03 <gmann> but yes, cleanup can be done for more jobs 16:37:29 <gibi> sean-k-mooney, gmann: cool. if you find others to be removed then feel free to add me to the review 16:37:38 <gmann> sure 16:37:46 <sean-k-mooney> well likely a new review right 16:37:53 <gibi> sean-k-mooney: yes please 16:38:18 <gibi> any other topic for today? 16:40:11 <gibi> then thanks for joining today. 16:40:17 <gibi> o/ 16:40:22 <gibi> #endmeeting