16:00:27 <bauzas> #startmeeting nova 16:00:27 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Tue Jan 4 16:00:27 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:27 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:27 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'nova' 16:01:37 <bauzas> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting 16:01:45 <ganso> o/ 16:01:47 <bauzas> hi everyone and happy New Year 16:02:00 <gmann> o/ 16:02:04 <gmann> happy new year 16:02:04 <artom> ~o~ 16:02:12 <lyarwood> \o 16:02:25 <bauzas> ok let's start 16:02:28 <bauzas> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) 16:02:34 <bauzas> #info No Critical bug 16:02:39 <bauzas> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 33 new untriaged bugs (+9 since the last meeting) 16:02:43 <bauzas> #help Nova bug triage help is appreciated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage 16:02:57 <bauzas> yeah, looks like some new bugs appeared when I was off :) 16:03:53 <bauzas> looking at some, it seems they can be closed 16:04:21 <bauzas> but I'll do my homework tomorrow 16:04:30 <bauzas> #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/placement 25 open stories (+0 since the last meeting) in Storyboard for Placement 16:04:40 <bauzas> nothing to say about placement, it's winter then 16:04:42 <bauzas> there* 16:05:07 <bauzas> any bug to raise in particular, except gate issues ? 16:06:15 <bauzas> looks not, moving on 16:06:19 <bauzas> #topic Gate status 16:06:25 <bauzas> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs 16:06:29 <bauzas> #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Placement periodic job status 16:06:36 <bauzas> #info Please look at the gate failures, file a bug, and add an elastic-recheck signature in the opendev/elastic-recheck repo (example: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759967) 16:06:51 <bauzas> nothing new on the gate side 16:07:05 <bauzas> and the placement periodic jobs run fine 16:07:22 <bauzas> so I guess we can go to the next topic 16:07:40 <bauzas> unless someone wants to say something 16:08:31 <bauzas> guess no 16:08:39 <bauzas> #topic Release Planning 16:08:46 <bauzas> #info Yoga-2 is due Jan 6th 16:08:53 <bauzas> #link https://releases.openstack.org/yoga/schedule.html#y-2 16:09:33 <artom> That's spec freeze, yeah? 16:09:39 <bauzas> correct but, 16:09:47 <bauzas> that was my next question 16:10:00 <bauzas> do people want to punt the spec freeze until next week ? 16:10:09 <bauzas> gibi isn't around, melwitt as well 16:10:39 <bauzas> or, we can just accept some spec approval exceptions if needed 16:10:43 <sean-k-mooney> i think that makes sense 16:10:53 <sean-k-mooney> to move it to next week 16:10:57 <bauzas> lemme look at the number of open specs we have 16:11:23 <bauzas> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/nova-specs+is:open 16:11:52 <sean-k-mooney> we have ~10 16:12:05 <sean-k-mooney> although i do not expect all of them to be approved this cycle 16:12:08 <bauzas> looks like we have around 7 specs open for this cycle 16:12:43 <sean-k-mooney> that sound about right 16:12:53 <bauzas> we already have 11 accepted specs for this cycle 16:12:57 <bauzas> #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/yoga/approved/ 16:13:13 <sean-k-mooney> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/821606 may need a spec unless we agree it shoudl be a specless blueprint or its too late to conisider this cycle 16:13:34 <bauzas> last cycle, we had 19 accepted specs 16:13:51 <bauzas> so, yeah, we can accept more open specs 16:14:01 <bauzas> sean-k-mooney: agreed 16:14:02 <sean-k-mooney> lightbitslabs are lookign to upstream there nova,cinder and os-brick driver 16:14:17 <sean-k-mooney> but im not sure we will get everthing inline by next week for it to happen this cycle 16:14:51 <bauzas> sean-k-mooney: at least we need to discuss this blueprint in a new meeting 16:15:02 <bauzas> and see whether we need a spec or not 16:15:36 <bauzas> ok, do people have concerns if we punt the spec freeze to Jan 13st ? 16:15:38 <artom> sean-k-mooney, kinda off-topic, but they better have solid future-rpoof CI 16:16:16 <sean-k-mooney> they have some downstream ci and said they were workign on a third party ci 16:16:26 <sean-k-mooney> but ya those are the kind fo thing we woudl need to work out 16:16:43 <bauzas> this will mean that we will only have 6 weeks between spec freeze and feature freeze, but I don't think it's a problem 16:16:57 <bauzas> if we accept to punt the spec freeze to next week 16:17:03 <bauzas> any concerns ? 16:17:21 <bauzas> 1... 16:17:23 <bauzas> 2... 16:17:27 <bauzas> 3... 16:17:27 <sean-k-mooney> i would suggest punting to next week but plan to not have excptions 16:17:32 <bauzas> accepted 16:18:16 <bauzas> #agreed Nova Spec freeze is moved to Jan 13st but after this limit, we won't accept exceptions 16:18:30 <bauzas> I'll write a ML email about it 16:18:34 <sean-k-mooney> ++ 16:18:46 <bauzas> moving on 16:18:54 <bauzas> #topic Review priorities 16:19:02 <bauzas> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement+OR+project:openstack/os-traits+OR+project:openstack/os-resource-classes+OR+project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/osc-placement)+label:Review-Priority%252B1 16:19:07 <bauzas> waaah, this link became large 16:20:06 <gmann> mine are easy one, yoga testing runtime 16:20:21 <bauzas> sean-k-mooney: you marked a few os-vif and os-traits changes as priority but they are still open after 3 months, do you want to remove the label ? 16:20:30 <bauzas> gmann: good point, I'll review it 16:20:52 <gmann> thx 16:21:14 <sean-k-mooney> bauzas: just looking at them now 16:21:21 <sean-k-mooney> i think i did that because i wanted other to review 16:21:27 <bauzas> sean-k-mooney: the changes in question are https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/765912 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/765970 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/786999 16:22:22 <sean-k-mooney> ill review them again today and see where they are 16:22:46 <bauzas> thanks 16:23:24 <bauzas> sean-k-mooney: I'm half present this week for good reasons (/me looks at Uggla ;) ) , but please ping me if you want me to review them 16:23:59 <sean-k-mooney> the os vif one s are train backports the os-traits on need a respin 16:24:11 <bauzas> oh 16:24:24 <bauzas> ok, let's skip this and revisit it tomorrow then 16:24:31 <bauzas> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/816861 bauzas proposing a documentation change for helping contributors to ask for reviews, needs a second +2 16:24:58 <bauzas> we have two approvals already, thanks gmann and gibi 16:25:13 <bauzas> gmann had good concerns, will provide a FUP 16:25:41 <bauzas> #topic Stable Branches 16:25:56 <bauzas> elodilles said he won't be around for this meeting 16:26:12 <bauzas> but I guess the updates are the same from last meeting 16:26:18 <bauzas> which were 16:26:19 <bauzas> stable gates are not blocked 16:26:24 <bauzas> though on some branches (wallaby, victoria?) we need many rechecks to be able to merge patches 16:26:30 * bauzas loves copy/paste 16:27:06 <bauzas> unless someone saw something popping up on the stable gates, I guess we can move on 16:28:49 <bauzas> finishing up 16:28:51 <bauzas> #topic Sub/related team Highlights 16:28:56 <bauzas> Libvirt (lyarwood) 16:29:14 <bauzas> well, I guess there was no activity during the last weeks 16:29:31 <lyarwood> Nope nothing 16:29:41 <bauzas> #topic Open discussion 16:29:41 <lyarwood> and as discussed before the break we need someone else to take this section forward or drop it 16:29:57 <bauzas> I think someone stepped up :) 16:30:53 <bauzas> actually, my brain is fucked 16:30:59 <bauzas> https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-12-07-16.00.log.html#l-162 16:31:08 <bauzas> I guess we will demote this gang 16:32:16 <bauzas> #action bauzas to officially remove the libvirt subteam topic from the nova meeting 16:32:21 <bauzas> voila 16:32:38 <bauzas> at anytime, someone can step up if he/she wishes 16:32:51 <bauzas> last topic 16:33:00 <bauzas> #topic Open discussion 16:33:04 <bauzas> (ganso) Raising awareness before Freeze: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp%2Fmultiqueue-flavor-extra-spec%22%20(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) 16:33:08 <ganso> o/ 16:33:33 <bauzas> ganso: you probably were confused by our internal milestone namings 16:33:54 <ganso> so, as the title says, just raising awareness. I know it is not super important to be among the review priority items, and most reviewers are focused on spec review which has an earlier deadline, but just raising some awareness. I am not aware of any pending items, so it is just waiting for reviews 16:33:59 <bauzas> in 2 days, we were about to no longer accept specs to be appoved 16:34:16 <ganso> bauzas: I actually meant feature freeze, sorry, I wasn't clear which freeze it was 16:34:27 <bauzas> but approved bps and specs can have their code merged until yoga-3 which is in 7 weeks 16:34:46 <bauzas> ganso: no worries, our namings are somehow confusing 16:34:59 <bauzas> this is a design gate, not an implementation freeze 16:35:18 <bauzas> feature implementation freeze will happen in 7 weeks 16:35:32 <ganso> thanks! 16:35:34 <bauzas> at yoga-3 time 16:35:40 <bauzas> no worries 16:36:25 <bauzas> for the audience, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multiqueue-flavor-extra-spec is already approved as a specless BP 16:36:40 <sean-k-mooney> ya i think this is not contovertial 16:36:42 <bauzas> btw. stephenfin was marked as owner 16:36:52 <bauzas> ganso: would you mind if I put you as an assignee ? 16:37:04 <sean-k-mooney> i think there is a good change we can land this in the next few weeks 16:37:07 <ganso> bauzas: sure 16:37:33 <sean-k-mooney> this is the minimal change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/792356 16:37:34 <bauzas> ganso: just to be sure, what's your Launchpad ID ? 16:37:42 <sean-k-mooney> and then the rest are docs update and some clean up 16:37:43 <ganso> bauzas: rodrigo-barbieri2010 16:37:55 <bauzas> ganso: ta, noted, will change the ownership 16:38:24 <ganso> bauzas: thanks! 16:38:31 <bauzas> last imra 16:38:37 <bauzas> oh damn fingers 16:38:40 <bauzas> last item 16:39:01 <bauzas> (bauzas) please welcome Uggla as a new Nova contributor :) 16:39:28 <ganso> Uggla: welcome! 16:39:38 <Uggla> :) thx 16:40:00 <artom> Uggla, you'll have to explain the nick :P 16:40:34 <bauzas> does it require hallways and beers ? 16:40:59 <Uggla> artom, the only word of swedish I know Uggla --> owl (thanks Ikea) 16:41:51 <bauzas> I pretend to have most of the Ikea products at home, but I never heard this :p 16:42:03 <bauzas> anyway, welcome 16:42:04 <artom> Huh, so the French "how are you" ("ca va?") phonetically sounds like the Russian for "owl" ("sava" - "сова") 16:42:30 <artom> Which means there's some Illuminati mystery going on here 16:42:33 <bauzas> :) 16:42:34 <Uggla> bauzas, I will send you a picture. 16:42:45 <bauzas> anyway, ending the meeting 16:42:47 <bauzas> thanks all 16:43:05 <sean-k-mooney> https://www.ikea.com/ie/en/p/vandring-uggla-glove-puppet-50216093/ 16:43:06 <gmann> thanks 16:43:08 <bauzas> and happy 2022 again (hopefully with physical events this year) 16:43:11 <bauzas> #endmeeting