16:00:27 <Uggla> #startmeeting nova
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16:00:27 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
16:00:47 <Uggla> Hello everyone
16:00:52 <gibi> o/
16:01:16 <masahito> o/
16:01:20 <Uggla> Note: I have a contraint a the top of the hour. So let's try to keep this meeting no more than 1h.
16:01:59 <elodilles> o/
16:02:04 <Uggla> awaiting a moment for people to join.
16:03:16 <Uggla> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
16:03:28 <Uggla> #info No Critical bu
16:03:33 <Uggla> bug
16:03:45 <Uggla> #topic Gate status
16:03:56 <Uggla> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs
16:04:11 <Uggla> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal
16:04:20 <Uggla> #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status
16:04:32 <Uggla> #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.
16:04:43 <Uggla> #info Please try to provide meaningful comment when you recheck
16:05:36 <Uggla> #topic tempest-with-latest-microversion job status
16:05:50 <Uggla> #link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=tempest-with-latest-microversion&skip=0
16:06:08 <Uggla> I'm not sure that's the best link.
16:06:39 <Uggla> This is the job we discussed at the PTG to ensure we don't break something.
16:07:03 <Uggla> Atm this is a placeholder, so I'll not forget about it next time.
16:07:42 <Uggla> #topic PTG summary
16:07:52 <Uggla> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/r.bf5f1185e201e31ed8c3adeb45e3cf6d
16:08:13 <Uggla> above link is the frozen link to the PTG document we shared last week.
16:08:40 <Uggla> I have written the summary for Nova and shared it on the mailing list.
16:09:07 <Uggla> I hope I have not introduced mistakes.
16:09:35 <Uggla> If you find something wrong please let me know.
16:10:03 <masahito> Thank you for the moderation and the discussion time slot in the ptg.
16:10:42 <elodilles> yepp, thanks Uggla o/
16:10:46 <Uggla> you are welcome, you brought interesting topics.
16:10:48 <elodilles> #info https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/T6CLTKTGQM7KPV3GXATC4DJ4SUTOBM6N/
16:10:59 <elodilles> link for the summary ^^^
16:11:00 <Uggla> thx elodilles
16:11:27 <Uggla> yep my msg was bounced because it was too large. :)
16:11:38 <Uggla> Thanks for providing the link elodilles .
16:11:38 <elodilles> :)
16:11:55 <Uggla> As I was unsure it was published.
16:12:11 <Uggla> #topic Release Planning
16:12:22 <Uggla> #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html
16:12:47 <Uggla> #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule
16:13:25 <Uggla> in fact it misses the date for the soft spec freeze and the spec review day.
16:13:56 <Uggla> As agreed at PTG, I will update the doc accordingly, but I have not done it yet.
16:14:16 <sean-k-mooney> o/
16:14:35 <Uggla> #topic Review priorities
16:14:50 <Uggla> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.2-status
16:15:28 <Uggla> This is a draft, I have just created it. So please don't be afraid because it is WIP.
16:16:16 <sean-k-mooney> Uggla: how do you want to tack completed blueprints
16:16:29 <sean-k-mooney> do you want to just move tehm to the feature compelte section
16:16:45 <sean-k-mooney> or copy them and keep it in both approved blueprint and feature complete
16:17:20 <sean-k-mooney> the reason im asking is one time use devices is feature complete with follow ups
16:17:36 <Uggla> hum, I'll probably move them to the completed section.
16:17:52 <Uggla> oh ok.
16:17:58 <sean-k-mooney> ack well we can do it either way
16:18:15 <sean-k-mooney> and we dont need to decide now but just wonderign what your prefernce was
16:18:35 <Uggla> yep as explained I have just created it so, yes probably incorrect status at some point.
16:19:09 <Uggla> I'll fix that, anyway thanks to point me pitfalls.
16:19:30 <Uggla> Don't blame me this time. :)
16:20:05 <Uggla> #topic Stable Branches
16:20:16 <Uggla> elodilles, please go ahead.
16:20:30 <elodilles> ack, this will be a bit longer than usual.
16:20:36 <elodilles> #info stable gates should be OK, nova-ceph-multistore jobs are passing on stable/2024.* (fixed with a cinder patch)
16:21:05 <elodilles> thanks to those who helped to figure out the problem and found the fix o:)
16:21:16 <elodilles> #info stable/2023.2 (bobcat) will move to End of Life in 2 weeks, we should release final bobcat releases this week
16:21:47 <elodilles> i think we should not let it until the deadline,
16:21:52 <elodilles> as it would be too risky
16:22:09 <elodilles> in my opinion
16:22:27 <elodilles> and i've created already some release patch:
16:22:31 <elodilles> #info stable releases for placement 2024.2, 2024.1, 2023.2 (https://review.opendev.org/947216, https://review.opendev.org/947215, https://review.opendev.org/947012)
16:22:50 <elodilles> these can be released i think, there are nothing to wait for ^^^
16:23:03 <elodilles> #info stable release for nova 2023.2 (https://review.opendev.org/941420)
16:23:27 <sean-k-mooney> elodilles: we could try and do the final bobcat release on thrusday
16:23:32 <elodilles> i've updated this ^^^ but there are still some possibilities to land some bug fixes on stable/2023.2
16:23:43 <sean-k-mooney> the one thing to keep in mind is many will be off due to easter friday/monday
16:23:44 <elodilles> sean-k-mooney: sounds OK to me
16:23:54 <sean-k-mooney> so it would be better to do it thurday then friday
16:23:56 <elodilles> sean-k-mooney: just like me o:)
16:24:03 <elodilles> sean-k-mooney: +2
16:24:19 <elodilles> i've created this:
16:24:23 <elodilles> #info etherpad for tracking stable merged to stable/2023.2: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-bobcat-eol
16:24:33 <sean-k-mooney> i can go review or propose the watcher release for you if that will help
16:24:43 <Uggla> I'll be out the rest of the week. But I'll try to look at those patches.
16:24:49 <elodilles> a lot of patches merged already, thanks mostly to melwitt o/
16:25:05 <sean-k-mooney> i can spend some time today/tomorrwo reviewing that list as well
16:25:23 <elodilles> Uggla: ACK, i think there are bauzas and auniyal as well as release liaison
16:25:34 <elodilles> but would be good to get some release approval
16:25:43 <Uggla> sure.
16:25:57 <elodilles> sean-k-mooney Uggla : thanks in advance o/
16:26:14 <elodilles> i think that's all from me about stable for this time
16:26:25 <elodilles> Uggla: back to you :)
16:26:32 <Uggla> thx elodilles
16:26:36 <elodilles> np
16:27:17 <Uggla> #topic Bug scrubbing
16:27:45 <Uggla> I will not do bug scrubbing this time. But I have 2 questions for you.
16:28:25 <Uggla> 1- For bug scrubing would you like a IRC session or a Video call one ?
16:29:30 <Uggla> 2- Would you be ok for time to time to extend the meeting by 20mn to triage more bugs ? I think I will warn a week upfront.
16:30:32 <sean-k-mooney> it can be both. differnet pepoel find video either more or less tiring as it demand more attention
16:30:43 <sean-k-mooney> in either case we should list the bug we are talking about on irc
16:30:51 <sean-k-mooney> and what we agreed as the triagge state
16:30:56 <sean-k-mooney> to recored it in the logs
16:31:51 <Uggla> Will you be ok with only IRC ?
16:32:26 * gibi isn't good at real time bug triage
16:33:19 <elodilles> gibi: you need popcorn and full focus for a good bug triage? o:)
16:33:53 <gibi> I need time to read logs
16:34:00 <Uggla> Ok I understand using only IRC is not an issue. At least we can start like this.
16:34:08 <gibi> and I don't like if others are watching while I read :)
16:34:09 <elodilles> gibi: true
16:35:09 <Uggla> What do you think about 2 ?
16:38:05 <Uggla> It seems I have not a lot of success with my questions.
16:38:47 <Uggla> anyway we will see, I'll ask again later.
16:38:54 <Uggla> Moving on to latest topic.
16:38:56 <Uggla> #topic Open discussion
16:39:25 <Uggla> gibi, is full speed on eventlet removal. :)
16:39:41 <Uggla> gibi, please go ahead if you wish.
16:39:56 <gibi> just a heads up
16:40:06 <gibi> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22eventlet-removal%22+project:openstack/nova there are patches that ready for review
16:40:32 <gibi> and there are some blog posts about the plan and progress https://gibizer.github.io/categories/eventlet/
16:40:38 <gibi> I will try to post weekly there
16:40:47 <gibi> EOM
16:40:53 <sean-k-mooney> like the review guides you did in the past
16:41:03 <gibi> yeah something like that
16:41:23 <sean-k-mooney> ack i think it will be useful but also dont want to set the bar too high for the rest of us
16:41:28 <sean-k-mooney> :)
16:41:30 <gibi> a bit of guidance what to review, a bit of planning for ourselves what coming next, and a bit of a decision log to look back to
16:42:08 <sean-k-mooney> well i am happy to review any of this work
16:42:11 <gibi> htanks
16:42:15 <gibi> thanks
16:42:18 <sean-k-mooney> im hoping to steal some of it for watcher too
16:42:29 <Uggla> gibi, yes that's cool to share progess on this on weekly basis. Thanks
16:44:16 <sean-k-mooney> am one question
16:44:34 <sean-k-mooney> do we want to treat this like a popup team within the context of the meeting at least
16:44:55 <gibi> we can
16:45:05 <gibi> I'm not sure Kamil is on IRC or not
16:45:30 <sean-k-mooney> im totally with the update just being "please review this next and here is the blog link for htis week"
16:45:42 <gibi> yeah I can do that regularly
16:46:23 <sean-k-mooney> to me this is one of the most imporant changes we have made in a very long time so just want to acknowlage that
16:46:51 <sean-k-mooney> it is a long runing comunity goal but hte fact we are commit to makeing progress on it this cycle is signifcant
16:47:04 <sean-k-mooney> anyway we can move on
16:47:22 <Uggla> yep anything else you want to discuss ?
16:47:36 <gibi> Uggla: if you wish you can add this as a subteam to the agenda and ping me
16:47:46 <gibi> on the meeting to report
16:48:32 <Uggla> yep we'll discuss that. But it will be cool to have a slot for you.
16:49:14 <Uggla> anything else, last chance.
16:50:01 <gibi> -
16:50:10 <Uggla> nope so closing the meeting. Thanks all.
16:50:25 <Uggla> #endmeeting