16:01:58 <Uggla> #startmeeting nova
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16:02:14 <Uggla> Hello everyone
16:02:36 <bauzas> \o
16:03:10 <bauzas> kudos for Uggla as leading a meeting while he needs to listen to another one :)
16:03:34 <Uggla> I know most of people are part of another meeting like me.
16:03:40 <elodilles> o/
16:04:37 <Uggla> awaiting one more min.
16:05:05 <Uggla> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
16:05:14 <Uggla> #info No Critical bug
16:05:29 <Uggla> #topic Gate status
16:05:42 <Uggla> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs
16:05:49 <Uggla> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal
16:06:00 <Uggla> #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status
16:06:08 <Uggla> #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.
16:06:15 <Uggla> #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck
16:06:25 <Uggla> #info I have seen "nova-tox-py312-threading fails intermittently" https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2125185 from gibi
16:06:53 <bauzas> yeah, we have another change from gibi
16:07:02 <Uggla> I know ^ is linked to eventlet
16:07:18 <Uggla> so we will defer it to the eventlet topic.
16:07:22 <bauzas> review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/961781 failed on gate pipeline, we need a recheck
16:07:38 <Uggla> I hope gibi will be free at the moment
16:08:22 <Uggla> Anything else about the gate ?
16:08:59 <bauzas> -
16:09:15 <bauzas> haven't seen any new net issue I'd say
16:09:45 <Uggla> Moving on.
16:10:04 <Uggla> Skipping next point because gmaan is on pto
16:10:13 <Uggla> #topic Release Planning
16:10:23 <Uggla> #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html
16:10:31 <Uggla> #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule
16:10:37 <Uggla> #info RC1 in progress.
16:10:44 <Uggla> #info PTG etherpad for 2026.1 is available: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.1-ptg
16:10:55 <Uggla> #info Please add the topics you would like to discuss in the above document.
16:11:05 <bauzas> ack
16:11:54 <Uggla> #topic OpenAPI
16:12:10 <Uggla> #link: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22openapi%22+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+-status:merged+-status:abandoned
16:12:11 <Uggla> #info still 28 remaining atm.
16:12:39 <Uggla> No progress here, I think it is normal.
16:13:04 <Uggla> #topic Stable Branches
16:13:12 <Uggla> elodilles your turn.
16:13:16 <elodilles> thanks
16:13:25 <elodilles> nothing special to report this time
16:13:28 <elodilles> #info stable branches (stable/2025.* and stable/2024.*) seem to be in OK state
16:13:36 <elodilles> #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci
16:13:45 <elodilles> that's all from me about stable for now
16:13:59 <Uggla> thx elodilles
16:14:11 <elodilles> np
16:14:46 <Uggla> Next week you should release Flamingo.
16:15:04 <bauzas> Oct-1 indeed
16:15:17 <elodilles> yepp
16:15:31 <elodilles> this week is the final RC week ;)
16:15:32 <Uggla> elodilles anything special regarding this?
16:15:54 <elodilles> not really. if the team does not consider another RC o:)
16:16:12 <bauzas> Uggla: maybe you don't know, but this week is the last week where we can backport any regression fix to 2025.2
16:16:25 <bauzas> #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html#f-finalrc
16:16:35 <elodilles> ^^^ as bauzas says
16:17:26 <bauzas> Uggla: I haven't seen any regression bug report so far, did you ?
16:17:42 <Uggla> not as well
16:17:51 <elodilles> fingers crossed
16:18:01 <Uggla> but it is fine, nobody wants that.
16:18:23 <Uggla> Especially now
16:18:35 <bauzas> Flamingo is a non-SLURP release, I just guess that our lovely operators don't really want to test it
16:18:53 <bauzas> should be different for Gazpacho hopefully
16:19:23 <Uggla> will see
16:20:14 <Uggla> ok moving on
16:20:20 <Uggla> #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights
16:20:59 <Uggla> oops fwiesel is not there, so we can skip that one
16:21:04 <bauzas> cool
16:21:55 <Uggla> #topic Gibi's news about eventlet removal.
16:22:21 <gibi> sorry I'm distracted
16:22:23 <gibi> skip this please
16:22:26 <Uggla> I know gibi wants to cover a lot of stuff. But he is currently busy
16:22:42 <gibi> maybe at the end
16:22:45 <gibi> we can get back to it
16:22:50 <gibi> if not then next week
16:23:00 <Uggla> ok
16:23:13 <Uggla> #topic Open discussion
16:23:28 <Uggla> (Uggla) We need to change the schedule of that meeting. I will open a poll with suggestions, but I’d like to gauge the situation in the meantime here with some questions.
16:24:22 <Uggla> A lots of contributor here will not be available on tuesday anymore.
16:26:47 <bauzas> I guess that we unfortunately don't have a quorum now, but I think you could write an email to openstack-discuss@ by providing the poll into it :)
16:27:17 <Uggla> Yep I just would like to know 2 things
16:28:04 <gibi> what are our options?
16:28:32 <Uggla> What do you think on a meeting in the morning every 3 weeks that could be join by people in asia ?
16:28:56 <Uggla> morning for european ?
16:33:01 <Uggla> gibi, friday , monday 18h00 CET without daylight, changing day for 1/3 meeting (between monday and thursday), skipping 1/3 meeting, having 1/3 meeting (monday or thursday) morning CET.
16:33:06 <elodilles> (i don't have strong opinions on this, so I'm basically okay with what the team decides - as long as the meeting is not during late night in CET/CEST timezone o:))
16:33:30 <gibi> I have hard no on friday 18:00 CET
16:34:21 <Uggla> gibi, to be honest friday is a bad option. I proposed it but everybody will be fried at the end of the week
16:35:03 <Uggla> so +1
16:35:26 <gibi> I have another appointment that makes it not possible at friday late afternoon
16:36:11 <bauzas> agreed
16:36:18 <Uggla> elodilles do you feel confortable if 1/3 meeting will be on a different day ?
16:38:39 <elodilles> Uggla: could work for me
16:39:35 <Uggla> Does someone know if we can set the meeting always at the same time. Avoiding daylight ?
16:39:36 <bauzas> we had on-off asian-friendly meetings
16:39:47 <bauzas> usually once a month, didn't worked
16:40:17 <bauzas> Uggla: lemme check, that's not very helpful for worldwide contributors but we could
16:40:45 <bauzas> https://meetings.opendev.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting
16:41:04 <Uggla> Do you want a regular meeting every week, or 1/3 skipping one
16:42:26 <gibi> we can try morning call but my experience in the past about that was that even though the option was there there was no other folks joining
16:42:27 <bauzas> again, I don't think we have a quorum now, could you propose some framasoft pool with alternatives ?
16:42:30 <gibi> maybe this time will be different
16:42:53 <bauzas> gibi: we had noone joining us as we were also having the nova meeting on the same week
16:43:33 <bauzas> but if by that week, we do only have one meeting, which would be sooner than the usual one, then hopefully we would get quorum (at least more than now)
16:44:26 <gibi> we will miss melwitt dansmith gmaan_pto on the morning call. I hardly call that as a quorum
16:44:42 <gibi> the usual timezone problem
16:45:00 <bauzas> that's why I'd like to see alternatives
16:45:30 <Uggla> bauzas, as explained I will create a poll. Just want to reduce the list of options
16:45:43 <bauzas> heh, you haven't seen the one for TC meetings :)
16:45:52 <bauzas> that's nice
16:46:22 <Uggla> any pref between monday, wednesday, thursday.
16:47:18 <bauzas> I'm afraid we can't see meetings with another timezone but UTC
16:47:41 <bauzas> https://opendev.org/opendev/irc-meetings/src/branch/master/meetings/nova-team-meeting.yaml is the one we have but we can't set a timezone
16:48:13 <Uggla> monday 18h00 could work. But not with daylight.
16:48:24 <bauzas> but maybe yaml2ical is able to set a specific timezone
16:49:00 <bauzas> alas, no https://opendev.org/opendev/yaml2ical#yaml-meeting-file
16:49:30 <bauzas> Uggla: well, I can help with running the meeting at 1800 on daylight saving time, if you can't
16:49:55 <bauzas> but that's very late for most of our european contributors
16:49:59 <Uggla> no with daylight the meeting will be at 17h00 and will conflict with an internal one...
16:50:14 <Uggla> I mean in winter.
16:50:37 <bauzas> oh, you meant 1800CET ?
16:50:41 <Uggla> yep
16:50:58 <bauzas> ask this in the pool
16:51:52 <Uggla> but if I consider daylight I should set it at 19h00 (summer) 18h (winter)
16:52:02 <bauzas> fwiw, we could have two different meeting times
16:52:20 <bauzas> one before the daylight saving and the other one after the daylight saving, if that helps
16:52:29 <bauzas> yaml2cal is able to define it
16:52:32 <gibi> I'm here but I'm brained already
16:53:11 <Uggla> gibi, that's fine, i'd like to know if you have pref regarding a day for the meeting.
16:53:21 <Uggla> or constraint.
16:53:34 <Uggla> just trying to reduce the number of options a bit.
16:53:50 <gibi> looking at my company calendar, wednesday is out if during the winter the meeting moves to 17:00 CET
16:53:56 <bauzas> I guess we need to discuss that again next week
16:54:26 <bauzas> Uggla: maybe you should start writing an email thread, just explaining your problems
16:54:30 <gibi> monday might work company wise
16:54:42 <bauzas> and then we'll try to find a solution cooperatively :)
16:54:42 <Uggla> not with daylight
16:54:52 <Uggla> for monday
16:55:52 <Uggla> bauzas sure.
16:57:38 <gibi> I'm dropping. Sorry.
16:57:42 <Uggla> Ok lets stop
16:58:01 <Uggla> at least I manage to remove the Friday option.
16:59:46 <Uggla> ok time to close. Thanks everyone.
16:59:51 <elodilles> (and note that daylight saving time switching is on different dates for example for US and EU folks)
16:59:52 <Uggla> #endmeeting