16:00:58 <Uggla> #startmeeting nova
16:00:58 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Tue Oct  7 16:00:58 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Uggla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:58 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
16:01:05 <Uggla> Hello everyone
16:01:54 <fwiesel> o/
16:02:21 <kgube> o/
16:02:25 <Uggla> awaiting others to join.
16:02:37 <elodilles> o/
16:02:48 <bauzas> o/
16:02:52 <dansmith> o/
16:04:00 <Uggla> Let's start
16:04:07 <Uggla> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
16:04:13 <Uggla> #info No Critical bug
16:04:26 <Uggla> #topic Gate status
16:04:34 <Uggla> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs
16:04:40 <Uggla> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal
16:04:47 <Uggla> #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status
16:04:55 <Uggla> #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.
16:05:02 <Uggla> #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck
16:05:08 <opendevreview> Konrad Gube proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose using extend volume completion action for 2026.1  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/949504
16:05:33 <Uggla> I haven't seen anything special regarding gate.
16:05:59 <Uggla> Does someone want to report something.
16:06:40 <Uggla> I guess gibi is still monitoring nova-tox-py312-threading
16:07:26 <bauzas> yup
16:07:34 <Uggla> Please notify gibi for any strange behavior on this job.
16:08:40 <Uggla> Skipping next point because gmann is on PTO.
16:08:48 <Uggla> #topic Release Planning
16:08:58 <Uggla> #link https://releases.openstack.org/gazpacho/schedule.html
16:09:24 <Uggla> ^ reminder, we will discuss timeline at the ptg.
16:09:37 <Uggla> #info Flamingo released last week. \o/
16:09:49 <Uggla> #info PTG etherpad for 2026.1 is available: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.1-ptg
16:09:55 <Uggla> #info Please add the topics you would like to discuss in the above document.
16:10:12 <Uggla> #info PTG meetings (to be confirmed) will happen room grizzly 15:00UTC ->17:00UTC from Tuesday to Friday
16:10:44 <Uggla> Next week, openinfra summit will happen
16:11:06 <Uggla> At least bauzas, and I will be present.
16:11:24 <bauzas> yup
16:11:39 * elodilles , too
16:11:41 <Uggla> vPTG is in 3 weeks from now.
16:11:53 <Uggla> elodilles cool !
16:12:03 <elodilles> see you there!
16:12:16 <Uggla> sure.
16:13:02 <bauzas> good time for a beer :)
16:13:14 <Uggla> Note: open infra summit is ~1h by train from city center.
16:13:34 <elodilles> +1
16:14:11 <Uggla> moving on
16:14:22 <Uggla> #topic OpenAPI
16:14:33 <Uggla> #link: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22openapi%22+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+-status:merged+-status:abandoned
16:14:39 <Uggla> #info still 28 remaining atm.
16:15:03 <Uggla> I hope we will be able to merge the remaining ones beginning of the cycle.
16:15:24 <Uggla> #topic Stable Branches
16:15:30 * Uggla passing the mic to elodilles
16:15:39 <elodilles> thanks o/
16:15:49 <elodilles> i'm not aware of any stable gate issue
16:16:20 <elodilles> this is a calm period, now that 2025.1 Flamingo is released last week
16:16:27 <elodilles> #info stable branches (stable/2025.* and stable/2024.*) seem to be in OK state
16:16:39 <elodilles> that's all from me, back to you Uggla
16:17:09 <Uggla> good if it is calm
16:17:24 <elodilles> yepp :)
16:17:50 <Uggla> #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights
16:17:58 <fwiesel> No updates from my side.
16:18:08 <Uggla> fwiesel, thx
16:18:36 <Uggla> gibi seems not available.
16:19:07 <gibi> sorry
16:19:10 <gibi> no news from me
16:19:37 <Uggla> gibi, that's perfectly ok.
16:19:45 <gibi> (busy with other bugfixes)
16:20:15 <Uggla> gibi, I know. Important fixes.
16:20:36 <Uggla> #topic Open discussion
16:20:51 <Uggla> (Uggla) Pool for the new schedule of upstream meeting: https://framadate.org/ao12zK6wR3K3nfbF
16:20:57 <Uggla> #linkAnnonce : https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/H5PBFZJ4X3TSGSC4YF6E4WTV43CBOVS6/
16:21:29 <Uggla> please vote ^
16:22:28 <bauzas> I saw it but I need to calculate with all the existing meetings, it will take time before replying :(
16:22:58 <Uggla> By the way as mentionned in the mail, we will have to adjust it again with the daylight change.
16:23:34 <elodilles> Uggla: which one, the US or the EU daylight change?
16:24:03 <elodilles> (or other, that i'm not aware of...)
16:25:05 <gibi> hm the voting options are in UTC that is not observing daylight saving
16:25:06 <Uggla> elodilles, I think the EU. Otherwise most of us will have a conflict.
16:26:07 <elodilles> (end of DST in EU: Oct 26, 2025; end of DST in US: Nov 2, 2025; if I'm not mistaken)
16:26:15 <elodilles> Uggla: ACK
16:27:12 <Uggla> elodilles, that also depends the day we will choose.
16:27:14 <gibi> but if we want to observe daylight saving then the option cannot be UTC as UTC is not affected by daylight saving
16:27:25 * gibi is confused
16:27:54 <Uggla> gibi, the tool upstream only accept UTC.
16:28:22 <elodilles> (and that is more 'readable' for every participants)
16:28:44 <elodilles> (at least that is a 'common' timezone everyone understands)
16:28:46 <gibi> which is fine by me. But you are talking about changing during dayligh saving and that does not make sense to me as UTC is not affected
16:30:01 <gibi> e.g. if I vote 16:00 UTC, then it is always 16:00 UTC regardless of where am I on earth and what part of the year we are
16:30:26 <gibi> do you suggest we will update the 16:00 UTC to some other time when we move to daylight saving?
16:30:41 <Uggla> gibi, after the daylight our meeting which is usually at 18h00 CET, will move to 17h00 CET and will conflict with one internal.
16:30:55 <Uggla> "do you suggest we will update the 16:00 UTC to some other time when we move to daylight saving?" yes absolutelly
16:31:17 <gibi> why? :)
16:31:42 <Uggla> We will probably have to move from 16:00 UTC to 17:00 UTC.
16:32:02 <gibi> do you want to keep the timing constant in EU?
16:32:20 <gibi> that will create 4 changes of time in US
16:32:33 <gibi> probably not something the US folks will like
16:32:49 <gibi> if we stick to UTC then both EU and US has 2 changes per year to adapt to
16:33:13 * Uggla just want to avoid meeting conflicts
16:33:35 <Uggla> s/want/wants/
16:34:51 <Uggla> But having internal ones in UTC would help.
16:34:56 <bauzas> honestly, there is no solution here, let's continue with UTC and just signal when we have conflicts after DST
16:35:07 <gibi> I think sticking to UTC is the least confusing for the community. Moving twice a year to keep the EU time constant is an optimization for EU but a complication for U
16:35:31 <gibi> I have to drop now but I will read back...
16:35:34 <bauzas> that's why it takes time to look at the framedate one given I need to look at both of the times
16:36:19 <Uggla> bauzas, yep
16:36:51 <Uggla> Anyway, something else to discuss ?
16:37:37 <kgube> I just wanted to ask, is there a cross-project session planned with Cinder at the PTG?
16:38:06 <Uggla> kgube, I have not discussed with cinder yep, but probably yes.
16:38:23 <kgube> alright, thanks!
16:39:06 <Uggla> If you want to have a cross discussion with cinder, please write that in our doc, and I'll arrange with Cinder folks to find a timeslot.
16:39:47 <kgube> The NetApp/NFS online resize topic might fit well there, I have added a comment
16:40:14 <Uggla> ok, please also add your name around?
16:40:42 <Uggla> Anything else ?
16:42:31 <bauzas> -
16:43:23 <Uggla> ok so thanks for joining this meeting, closing now.
16:43:34 <Uggla> #endmeeting