18:01:28 <auggy> #startmeeting nova-bugs-team
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18:01:32 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team'
18:02:04 <cdent> o/
18:02:06 <macsz> o/
18:03:49 <auggy> hey everyone!
18:03:57 <auggy> #topic Current Nova Bug Stats
18:04:16 <auggy> #info 16 new bugs which need to be skimmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
18:04:32 <auggy> thanks to everyone who put a huge dent in the new bugs!
18:04:47 <auggy> #info 276 confirmed and triaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=Triaged&field.status=Confirmed
18:04:56 <auggy> #info 705 open bugs overall
18:05:01 <cdent> ooph
18:05:42 <auggy> #topic Mailing List Discussions
18:05:59 <auggy> I don't have anything here, does anyone have anything they wanted to bring up that folks working in the bug queue should be aware of?
18:06:26 <auggy> alright moving on
18:06:27 <auggy> #topic Important Dates
18:06:37 <auggy> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule
18:06:49 <auggy> whoops
18:06:51 <macsz> i think that there is one bug, but its from cinder, it causes certain gates to fail
18:07:03 <auggy> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule
18:07:30 <auggy> #info Dec 15: o-2 milestone
18:07:57 <auggy> macsz: ah cool, was it mentioned on the mailing list?
18:08:11 <auggy> i'm looking to see if it was and then i can paste a link
18:08:56 <macsz> i dont think so, we just noticed it yesterday, cinder tries to async delete volumes while they are still in use, or so it seems so, there is bug already filled in launchpad
18:09:07 <auggy> ah ok
18:09:10 <auggy> good to know
18:09:20 <macsz> so if you get -2 from jenkins, thats why :)
18:10:00 <auggy> wow thanks!
18:10:03 <auggy> #topic Reminders
18:10:04 <macsz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1648885
18:10:05 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1648885 in Cinder "ceph: TestVolumeBootPattern.test_create_ebs_image_and_check_boot times out failing to delete volume due to snapshot is busy" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jon Bernard (jbernard)
18:10:08 <macsz> i think this is it
18:10:30 <auggy> #info no bug team meeting Dec 27th due to the holidays
18:10:47 <auggy> awesome
18:11:12 <auggy> oh yeah so just as a note, i won't be hosting this meeting on dec 27th since it will be holidays and i'm not going to be paying much attention to open stack things
18:11:32 <auggy> #topic Bug Queue Discussions
18:11:57 <auggy> #info per macsz a cinder gate issue is causing -2's https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1648885
18:11:59 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1648885 in Cinder "ceph: TestVolumeBootPattern.test_create_ebs_image_and_check_boot times out failing to delete volume due to snapshot is busy" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jon Bernard (jbernard)
18:12:18 <auggy> Does anyone have questions about bugs they are skimming or triaging?
18:12:24 <auggy> Does anyone have questions about general bug queue maintenance?
18:12:47 <auggy> #topic Urgent Bug Fixes
18:12:56 <auggy> Does anyone have urgent bug fixes that need attention?
18:13:09 <auggy> i didn't see anything special in the agenda
18:13:23 <auggy> or anything at all rather ;)
18:13:36 * cdent is sat in the last row of the classroom
18:13:41 <macsz> how is the infra stuff going? :) will they host bug dashboard?
18:13:44 <auggy> #topic Open Discussion
18:14:02 <auggy> macsz: i've been bad and haven't followed up but i think markus_z's thing came back up
18:14:39 <macsz> np, i can host it
18:14:43 <auggy> i was wanting to ask about that, i'm working on some additional things for the dashboard... are there any stats that would be more useful?
18:15:09 <auggy> or any improvements on the current design that would make doing bug things helpful?
18:15:21 <macsz> burndown charts to track bp maybe
18:15:35 <macsz> markus_z hosted one in the past, don't know if the script was his, though
18:15:37 <auggy> sure, for bugs or for regular issues?
18:15:58 <auggy> i've been toying around with putting together some kind of leaderboard so folks doing bug queue work get more visibility
18:16:29 <auggy> for the blueprint burndown chart, what is it that you would find particularly useful about that?
18:16:35 <auggy> i'm just curious :
18:16:37 <auggy> :)
18:16:51 <macsz> for instance we had a burndown chart for config options
18:17:02 <macsz> in every file in code we had a certain flags in the header
18:17:15 <auggy> ah ok, i thought you meant specifically for bugs
18:17:15 <macsz> you know, a todo like list
18:17:34 <auggy> yeah, something like that is really dependent on the people working on the blueprint actually making a TODO list that's complete
18:18:09 <cdent> which is often impossible, or at least quickly out of date :(
18:18:13 <auggy> if you don't have a complete list of work items then the burndown chart isn't really going to be accurate
18:18:21 <auggy> yeah, we used one for the api-ref stuff
18:18:22 <macsz> yeah, that is the downside
18:18:38 <auggy> and it makes sense for config-options too where you have a list of the things that need to be modified
18:18:50 <auggy> but it might be interesting to have some kind of visual representation of the bug queue
18:18:58 <macsz> burndown chart for tracking how many bugs are open/fixed won;t hurt for sure
18:18:59 <auggy> and then show the change from week to week
18:19:14 <auggy> like this week people did a lot of skimming
18:19:20 <cdent> sorry I gotta go make dinner
18:19:21 <auggy> but i think it increased the triaged numbers
18:19:23 * cdent me waves
18:19:26 <auggy> ok thanks for popping in cdent!
18:19:30 * auggy waves back
18:19:44 <auggy> so it would just be interesting to see the rate of change visually
18:19:57 <auggy> macsz: thanks for the suggestion even tho it's probably not what you originally intended haha
18:20:12 <auggy> i'd definitely follow up with markus for the config options burndown thing tho
18:20:20 <macsz> probably,happy to help either way :D
18:20:28 <auggy> yeah! well thanks!
18:20:31 <auggy> i didn't have anything else
18:20:56 <macsz> neither did I
18:20:57 <auggy> thanks macsz and cdent for stopping by (and any lurkers that might be watching silently)
18:21:22 <auggy> i'll go ahead and end the meeting then! feel free to ping me if you're doing any bug queue work and have questions! i'll be sure and follow up with infra on that hosting thing
18:21:34 <auggy> #endmeeting