08:04:33 #startmeeting nova_extra 08:04:33 Meeting started Thu Oct 7 08:04:33 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:04:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 08:04:33 The meeting name has been set to 'nova_extra' 08:04:44 good moning folks, I have forgotten to open it :) 08:04:53 sorry for having it delayed 08:05:05 I don't have agenda for this meeting 08:05:20 it's more something like "if you want to discuss with us, let us know" 08:05:34 do we have Asian contributors here ? 08:06:07 or any other folks wanting to discuss ? 08:07:27 I can rant about the rainy weather 08:07:40 ;) 08:08:42 just looking at the patch submitted above by jingsheng zhang https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/812796 08:08:54 is that something we even support 08:09:01 ipxe boot of nova vms 08:09:20 gibi: hah 08:09:28 we have a good weather here :) 08:09:29 i dont know if they are here and could explain there motivation for that 08:09:45 sean-k-mooney: good question 08:09:52 * bauzas looks at the change 08:10:25 my understandign is the only way to use ipxe is to enable the qemu boot menu 08:10:33 and manually select it 08:10:49 I'm not really sure it's a nova question 08:10:50 also this feels like a spec not a bug since it has object changes 08:10:52 maybe more an image 08:11:37 I mean, if you want to have instances calling PXE, then you need to have an image booting by it 08:11:57 not really 08:12:05 that is provided by the qemu seabios image on the host 08:12:08 sean-k-mooney: but agreed, this isn't a bug, more a new feature 08:12:13 its not provide by the glance image 08:12:17 I agree that it feels like a feature 08:12:42 we dont officaly support ipxe boot which is why i raised it 08:12:51 when I see ipxe boot with nova that was with a special image booted 08:12:59 sean-k-mooney: oh, you mean that the host needs to support iPXE ? 08:13:17 gibi you can use an ipxe image form glance 08:13:34 but seabios i belive support ipex/network boot too 08:13:46 is this about having guests calling a pxe server or having a way to have a host supporting pxe ? 08:14:18 sean-k-mooney[m]: I see so there is multiple ways 08:14:33 its about the guest pxe booting and what happens if you live migrate that guest between hosts 08:15:03 if the image was from glance then presumable it would not change between hosts when you live migrate 08:15:20 which is why im assumje this is related to teh seabios image form the host 08:15:32 it may not be however 08:16:50 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1946298 08:17:00 this is the relevent bug report 08:17:18 anyway it looks like they are not present to talk about it in the meeting 08:17:27 yeah 08:17:27 so we can disucss it later 08:17:44 sean-k-mooney: you should review the change and tell me to at least create a blueprint 08:17:53 to exactly explain their needs 08:18:39 it looks to me we never supported ipxe booting with libvirt 08:19:03 libvirt had the knob, but we never exposed it on nova 08:19:32 so this is fortunate to work, but indeed for move operations, you have to do extra things 08:19:39 correct we dont offically support it 08:20:10 looking at the bug report then issue is related to the option rom of the network interface which can have different size on diferent hosts 08:20:23 but i dd not think we supported enabling that either 08:20:34 I agree with generic sentiment above, so this is a bp at least but most probably a spec 08:21:28 that's probably a spec indeed, but let's just ask for the blueprint first 08:21:41 just to understand the needs 08:22:25 sean-k-mooney: I can triage the bug as Invalid/Wishlist and explain them to open a blueprint 08:22:38 agreed ? 08:22:56 sure 08:23:58 agreed 08:24:14 ok, anything else to discuss ? 08:24:53 I'll put a PTG session proposal to discuss the opportunity of the Asian timeslot 08:25:12 I don't exactly want to kill it, but I wonder how to make it productive if we keep it 08:25:35 meetings for the sake of meeting seems a bit irrelevant 08:25:47 bauzas: I had the meeting mentioned in the retro part of the etherpad 08:25:52 cool 08:25:57 thanks 08:26:18 it's more or less the question to reach the contributors who don't usually get into IRC 08:26:18 L119 08:26:51 at least, if we continue, I'll officially name "office hour" 08:27:01 this sounds more reasonable 08:27:08 as we don't really have an agenda 08:27:40 ok, anything to add before I close ? 08:29:09 - 08:32:13 #endmeeting