09:00:23 <anteaya> #startmeeting nova-net-to-neutron-migration 09:00:24 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Mar 10 09:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:00:25 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 09:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova_net_to_neutron_migration' 09:00:30 <anteaya> hello 09:01:02 <anteaya> obondarev mikal gus 09:01:16 <obondarev> o/ 09:02:07 <obondarev> anteaya:hi, how are you? 09:02:18 <anteaya> obondarev: good thanks 09:02:21 <anteaya> and yourself? 09:02:39 <obondarev> me too, thank you :) 09:02:43 <anteaya> good 09:03:03 <anteaya> might just be you and I 09:03:18 <anteaya> mikal had told me he expected to be here for this meeting 09:03:19 <obondarev> looks so 09:03:29 <anteaya> perhaps he will be here before the end 09:03:32 <anteaya> so onward 09:03:42 <anteaya> #topic the state of the Neutron spec (obondarev) 09:03:48 <anteaya> anything new? 09:03:53 <obondarev> nope 09:04:01 <anteaya> next then 09:04:09 <obondarev> ok 09:04:16 <anteaya> #topic the state of implementation (obondarev) 09:04:30 <obondarev> no changes on db patch which is expected as jlibosva is unavailable till April 09:04:39 <obondarev> as we agreed, the patch is ready for testing 09:04:46 <anteaya> great 09:04:49 <obondarev> I put a comment on the patch with the steps which allowed me to migrate data for FlatDHCP model 09:04:52 <gus> (hi) 09:05:36 <obondarev> nova-net proxy patch is ready for testing as well, except floating ips and security groups 09:05:53 <obondarev> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150490/ 09:05:56 <gus> obondarev: I saw that, that was a nice amount of detail. 09:06:11 <obondarev> so in fact the two patches may be tested together: migrating data first and enabling proxy mode on nova-api and nova-compute 09:06:20 <anteaya> okay 09:06:26 <anteaya> so nice work 09:06:29 <obondarev> I post a comment on the proxy patch with the steps for testing as well 09:06:36 <anteaya> great 09:06:39 <obondarev> next plans are to test more cases - add/remove fixed ips for vms 09:06:45 <anteaya> okay 09:06:56 <obondarev> the more important is to get feedback 09:07:31 <obondarev> however I didn't ask dansmith to review is since we retarget it for Liberty 09:07:40 <anteaya> obondarev: yes 09:07:44 <obondarev> and nova folks may probably have more important reviews at this stage of the cycle 09:07:57 <anteaya> well I had a long discussion with dansmith last week 09:08:05 <obondarev> so I hope he'll take a look when has time for it 09:08:24 <obondarev> anteaya: interesting 09:08:33 <anteaya> and though you still want to pursue this direction, he indicated to me that he doesn't support it 09:08:42 <anteaya> and I had talked to mikal afterwards 09:08:48 <anteaya> who I had hoped would be here 09:09:12 <anteaya> but we have to proceed with what we have 09:09:23 <anteaya> and you have done a lot of work and have something to test 09:09:24 <anteaya> well done 09:09:29 <obondarev> anteaya: I'd ask Dan to post the comment with his thoughts and concerns on the review 09:09:58 <obondarev> as now I'm unsure what exactly he doesn't like 09:10:08 <anteaya> so do you want ot get some feedback first or keep working on it 09:10:15 <anteaya> the whole approach 09:10:27 <obondarev> yep 09:10:29 <anteaya> was what I heard him say 09:10:40 <anteaya> so since we don't have mikal 09:10:44 <anteaya> I leave the choice to you 09:10:49 <anteaya> what do you want ot do now? 09:11:05 <obondarev> well, I remember Dan was concerned that the approach will not work for complex cases 09:11:12 <obondarev> like allocate_for_instance 09:11:15 <anteaya> oh you heard that 09:11:18 <anteaya> oh good 09:11:38 <obondarev> now the patch allows is 09:11:42 <obondarev> it* 09:12:34 <obondarev> so.. 09:13:00 <obondarev> I'd really like to know what problems do folks see with the approach 09:13:18 <anteaya> well it sounds like you have made a decision 09:13:22 <anteaya> go get some feedback 09:13:47 <anteaya> and I just got an email from mikal, he is at a conference and won't be attending this week 09:13:52 <anteaya> but it was nice of him to email 09:13:53 <obondarev> yes, because I'm probably missing something 09:14:12 <anteaya> okay so you have a way forward for next week 09:14:20 <anteaya> anything else under this topic? 09:14:33 <obondarev> sorry, which way do you mean? 09:14:42 <obondarev> ask Dan for feedback? 09:14:45 <anteaya> getting feedback on your work thus far 09:14:47 <anteaya> yes 09:14:56 <obondarev> anteaya: ok, thanks 09:14:59 <anteaya> great 09:15:06 <anteaya> okay to move to the next topic? 09:15:13 <obondarev> yep 09:15:14 <anteaya> #topic documentation 09:15:23 <anteaya> I have nothing new here 09:15:44 <anteaya> the patch hasn't changed 09:15:54 <anteaya> next 09:15:58 <anteaya> #topic testing 09:16:17 <anteaya> so can we talk about testing the patches we have? 09:16:37 <obondarev> we can 09:16:39 <anteaya> you have been successful with a flat network setup obondarev? 09:16:58 <obondarev> flatdhcp actually 09:17:16 <anteaya> awesome 09:17:28 <anteaya> so I think we should get some addition testers 09:17:30 <obondarev> had to disable floating ips migration though 09:17:40 <obondarev> as it's not ready 09:17:42 <anteaya> gus: are you in any position to be able to test the current patches? 09:17:47 <obondarev> in both patches 09:18:27 <gus> I can run through a basic devstack scenario, but it's probably a repeat of what obondarev has already performed. 09:18:31 <anteaya> obondarev: is the fact you had to disable floating ips migration in your notes on the patches? 09:18:42 <gus> I don't have any larger/different setups that I can test unfortunately. 09:18:43 <anteaya> gus: I see value in that 09:19:07 <anteaya> I'm fine if we can confirm obondarev's findings 09:19:13 <obondarev> anteaya: yes it is, in the comment on the db migration patch 09:19:41 <gus> anteaya: sure, I'll give it a go. 09:19:56 <anteaya> obondarev: the proxy patch doesn't mention the db migration patch in the commit message 09:20:00 <gus> (It won't be until next week however - I'm out helping high school kids with robots for the rest of this week) 09:20:00 <anteaya> do you think it should? 09:20:09 <anteaya> gus: thank you 09:20:20 <anteaya> gus: oh cool, that sounds like a lot of fun 09:20:27 <anteaya> gus: how are they doing with them/ 09:20:29 <anteaya> ? 09:20:29 <obondarev> anteaya: actually no, it is not dependent 09:21:19 <anteaya> obondarev: I didn't say dependent, but if you don't have a link to the db migration patch in the notes on the proxy patch, how should a reviewer or potential tester find it? 09:21:34 <anteaya> let's make it easy for people 09:21:47 <obondarev> anteaya: so testing proxy may be independent from testing db migration 09:22:04 <anteaya> you just said you tested them together 09:22:17 <obondarev> yeah, but that's not necessary 09:22:18 <anteaya> so testing them together is a scenario, is it not? 09:22:29 <anteaya> I am fine with it not being necessary 09:23:00 <anteaya> but I would like to make it possible for people who would like to, to find the db migration patch from the proxy patch 09:23:04 <obondarev> ok, I can add a note to the commit message that it can be tested together with db migration 09:23:11 <anteaya> wonderful thank you 09:23:20 <obondarev> anteaya: sure, np 09:23:41 <anteaya> anything more on testing this week? 09:24:05 <anteaya> moving on 09:24:11 <anteaya> #topic open discussion 09:24:25 <anteaya> so sdague and others are at the ops meetup 09:24:35 <anteaya> apparently there are about 180 people there 09:24:39 <anteaya> they had a good first day 09:24:49 <anteaya> the migration didn't come up yet 09:25:04 <anteaya> but about 75% of the people in attendance are already running neutron 09:25:17 <anteaya> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-tags 09:25:42 <anteaya> this is based upon someone asking the question what service are they running and then guesstimating the show of hands 09:25:57 <obondarev> would be nice to know how many of those who're using nova net is still interested in neutron migration 09:26:02 <anteaya> I found the etherpad informative 09:26:18 <anteaya> agreed 09:26:46 <anteaya> though we can't take the folks who show up to the meetup in the states as definitive of what our users need 09:27:00 <obondarev> agree 09:27:10 <anteaya> as we know some folks in some countries can't get to the states 09:27:24 <anteaya> but yes, as much info as possible would be good 09:27:45 <anteaya> I trust sdague will do his best to gather as much info as he can from the group on the topic 09:27:58 <anteaya> I wouldn't have any ability to contact him now anyway 09:28:21 <anteaya> I could email but couldn't guarentee he would read it before he presents 09:28:31 <anteaya> anything more for open discussion? 09:28:56 <anteaya> I'll go with no 09:29:04 <anteaya> thanks for all your hard work obondarev 09:29:09 <anteaya> it is awesome 09:29:16 <anteaya> and thanks gus 09:29:17 <obondarev> anteaya: thanks 09:29:21 <anteaya> for just being you 09:29:26 <anteaya> obondarev: :) 09:29:31 <anteaya> happy roboting 09:29:37 <anteaya> see you next week! 09:29:40 <gus> yes, thanks obondarev 09:29:46 * gus waves 09:29:48 <anteaya> #endmeeting