20:00:14 <johnsom> #startmeeting Octavia
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20:00:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'octavia'
20:00:23 <sbalukoff> Hello folks!
20:00:27 <bana_k> hi
20:00:28 <johnsom> Hi there
20:01:00 <johnsom> #topic Announcements
20:01:09 <johnsom> Wow, could be a small group today
20:01:21 <sbalukoff> More time to code and review, then. :)
20:01:50 <TrevorV> o/
20:01:54 <TrevorV> Sorry, was here, just didn't announce
20:02:02 <johnsom> The only announcement I have is we are under feature freeze for the end of the newton cycle.  This means that cores will not merge feature patches until we cut the stable branch and release for Newton.
20:02:11 <johnsom> Anyone else have any announcements?
20:02:46 <johnsom> #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review
20:02:54 <johnsom> Ok, how are things going?
20:02:59 <TrevorV> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360794
20:03:01 <TrevorV> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360794
20:03:05 <TrevorV> Sorry, that's the quota review
20:03:10 <TrevorV> I'm working on "enforcement"
20:03:12 <Frito> o/
20:03:20 <TrevorV> Meaning keeping people from creating above their quotas
20:03:22 <johnsom> Just a reminder we are prioritizing some patches for the release: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaSOctaviaNewtonPatches
20:03:24 <johnsom> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaSOctaviaNewtonPatches
20:03:26 <sbalukoff> Yep.
20:03:38 <sbalukoff> Most of those are really close to ready.
20:03:48 <sbalukoff> A few of them I can't +2, because I wrote them.
20:03:58 <johnsom> Yes, which is excellent, we have been moving through these well.
20:03:59 <sbalukoff> And most of those already have a +2 from johnsom.
20:04:16 <johnsom> Yes, we need other cores to review some.
20:04:18 <sbalukoff> So, we need dougwig or another non-IBM / non-RAX core to +2 them
20:04:19 <TrevorV> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369627/
20:04:32 <TrevorV> I also have this review, which is a tech-debt review
20:04:35 <TrevorV> Thanks for the +2 on that sbalukoff
20:05:24 <johnsom> I will try to take a pass at the neutron-lbaas patches today and add to this list if I see any I think we should go after.
20:05:32 <sbalukoff> Ok.
20:05:50 <johnsom> Though that is on the neutron release train, so RC1 should be cut
20:05:54 <sbalukoff> There aren't a whole lot there: the only one I'd really like to push for is Dustin's patch which fixes the global maxconn issue.
20:06:14 <johnsom> Yeah, I think we should get those in.  That is a bug that will impact folks.
20:06:25 <rm_mobile> o/
20:06:29 <sbalukoff> ...or IS impacting folks. ;)
20:06:59 <johnsom> rm_mobile We just talked about the need for core reviews on some Octavia patches.  hint, hint
20:07:07 <sbalukoff> This is that patch:
20:07:10 <sbalukoff> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369088/
20:07:40 <sbalukoff> rm_mobile: Please concentrate on this list first. :D  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaSOctaviaNewtonPatches
20:08:36 <johnsom> Any other progress updates?  I am happy to see some merge patches going up.  quotas (trevorv), etc.
20:09:06 <johnsom> #topic Release process changes
20:09:23 <johnsom> Ok, moving on.  There is a patch proposed that will change the way we release.
20:09:28 * dougwig notes reviews above.
20:09:32 <rm_mobile> Yeah I'll take a look at those tonight when I get back
20:09:33 <johnsom> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368012/
20:09:54 <dougwig> oh, moving to releases.
20:10:08 <johnsom> This will mean I can't cut the releases for Octavia any longer and the responsibility will move to the release team.
20:10:29 <johnsom> I am ok with this (frankly I tried to set it up this way in the past).
20:10:31 <dougwig> with an ack from ihar or armax, too.
20:11:04 <johnsom> I have been looking at the new process, etc.
20:11:23 <sbalukoff> Huh. Ok.
20:11:24 <dougwig> submit yaml file, get an ack, ???, profit.
20:11:56 <johnsom> We got moved to release independent in the past, I think it is a good idea for us to switch this back to release cycle-with-intermediary
20:12:10 <johnsom> Does anyone have a concern about me proposing that?
20:12:16 <dougwig> not me.
20:12:19 <johnsom> #link https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/tags/release_independent.rst
20:12:28 <johnsom> #link https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/tags/release_cycle-with-intermediary.rst
20:12:35 <johnsom> For the definitions.
20:12:41 <sbalukoff> No concerns from me.
20:12:51 <johnsom> This will pull us back into doing a release with the newton cycle.
20:13:11 <rm_mobile> Cool, I think that's a good idea
20:13:16 <johnsom> Ok, cool.  I will propose that today so we are all nice and shiny for the Newton release.
20:13:24 <sbalukoff> If that means we aren't treated like a 2nd class project by the TC, and by packagers, I think that's a really good thing.
20:13:33 <rm_mobile> This ^^
20:13:54 <johnsom> Well, it may help, but I don't expect miracles here.....
20:13:59 <sbalukoff> Haha!
20:14:12 <rm_mobile> >_<
20:14:15 <johnsom> #topic Discuss which doc bug to address next
20:14:25 <johnsom> sbalukoff This was your topic
20:14:32 <johnsom> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=docs
20:14:40 <sbalukoff> Yeah, this is from me: If I have time to write one more "significant" doc before we tag the release, which should it be?
20:14:52 <sbalukoff> I was thinking the basic end-user cookbook should probably be it.
20:15:10 <sbalukoff> which would end up looking something like the l7 cookbook that's under review right now.
20:15:12 <dougwig> i was thinking install guide, so, similar.
20:15:24 <sbalukoff> But if y'all think one of the other docs is more important, please say so!
20:15:48 <johnsom> I am good with that sbalukoff.  I still have aspirations that I may take one of these too.
20:16:10 <sbalukoff> Mostly, I want to make sure we make it as simple as possible for people to start using LBaaSv2 and octavia.
20:16:18 <sbalukoff> So people start using it in production, eh!
20:16:32 <johnsom> Yep, agreed
20:16:41 <sbalukoff> Yes, it would be great if some of the rest of y'all want to tackle one or more of these open docs bugs.
20:17:15 <johnsom> I think so far it has just been you and I
20:17:15 <sbalukoff> I personally think if we make it easy for people to figure out how to do what they need to do to use it, they'll use it.
20:18:04 <johnsom> Ok, did you get your answer sbalukoff?
20:18:22 <sbalukoff> More or less. Only you and dougwig have shared your opinions. XD
20:18:25 <sbalukoff> But that's OK.
20:18:33 <sbalukoff> I'm going to assume silence is consent in this case.
20:18:56 <TrevorV> sbalukoff, sorry I don't have an opinion
20:19:13 <TrevorV> I think all the docs are a priority, but you guys make a good point with "If they know how to set it up, then they'll set it up"
20:19:25 <TrevorV> So I agree, install guide or end-user cook book are both great for that
20:19:26 <johnsom> #topic Open Discussion
20:19:40 <rm_mobile> ヽ(^。^)ノ
20:19:43 <johnsom> Anything else to chat about today?
20:20:12 <Frito> frogs are more awesome than goats ;-)
20:20:24 <johnsom> Oye
20:20:27 <rm_mobile> (¯―¯٥)
20:20:30 <dougwig> they taste better.
20:20:31 <crc32> ricks beat scissors
20:20:40 <sbalukoff> Heh!
20:20:44 <crc32> sorry rocks
20:20:54 <johnsom> Ok, so time back to do some reviews......   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaSOctaviaNewtonPatches
20:21:02 <johnsom> See ya
20:21:06 <johnsom> #endmeeting