16:01:47 <johnsom> #startmeeting Octavia
16:01:47 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Oct 30 16:01:47 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:01:51 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'octavia'
16:01:58 <ataraday_> hi
16:02:00 <colin-> o/
16:02:00 <johnsom> Hi all
16:02:18 <johnsom> rm_work Said he was going to make it today, but maybe plans changed....
16:02:35 <cgoncalves> hi
16:02:47 <haleyb> hi
16:03:09 <johnsom> #topic Announcements
16:03:20 <johnsom> I don't have much for announcements.
16:03:27 <johnsom> The Summit/PTG is next week
16:04:03 <johnsom> Given this time is midnight in Shanghai, I expect we should cancel the IRC meeting next week.
16:04:21 <colin-> sure that's reasonable
16:04:24 <cgoncalves> +1
16:04:48 <ataraday_> +1
16:05:22 <johnsom> As a reminder, we do have a PTG etherpad:
16:05:24 <johnsom> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-shanghai-U-ptg
16:05:49 <johnsom> There are some topics there, please add others if you think it should be discussed at the PTG
16:06:11 <johnsom> Any other announcements today?
16:06:54 <johnsom> #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review
16:07:38 <johnsom> I have been heads down working on certificate issues. Mostly around handling secrets that get deleted from barbican while in use on a load balancer.
16:07:38 <rm_work> Ah thanks, got distracted
16:08:20 <johnsom> I have a patch in progress to improve the handling of listeners when one or more listeners on an LB have certificate issues.
16:09:03 <johnsom> Then after that one or two to fix the same issues with client auth and backend re-encryption (if the secret disappears on us).
16:09:03 <ataraday_> Working on jobboard changes, default ciphers is on the review, will do others on this topic once this get some reviews.
16:09:18 <ataraday_> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685337/
16:09:43 <johnsom> Cool, I know I owe you a review and ajay a review on the Ubuntu install docs.
16:09:43 <ataraday_> haleyb, thanks for reviews!
16:10:02 <haleyb> np, sorry if they're mostly nitpicking
16:10:53 <ataraday_> haleyb, all reviews are good :)
16:11:10 <ataraday_> just haven't fix them yet
16:12:39 <johnsom> Any other updates today?
16:13:42 <johnsom> #topic Horizon core team having core rights on octavia-dashboard
16:13:51 <johnsom> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010303.html
16:14:10 <johnsom> So the horizon team has requested core rights on all of the horizon plugin repos.
16:14:24 <johnsom> Some projects have already added them.
16:14:36 <rm_work> Sounds fine to me
16:14:50 <johnsom> I wanted to discuss that here before we add them.  Any thoughts/comments?
16:15:08 <rm_work> They probably know more about the reviews on our repo than I do <_<
16:15:49 <colin-> i don't find it concerning or anything
16:16:07 <johnsom> Yeah, our "expert" is Jacky currently, but more eyes/support is probably good.
16:16:46 <cgoncalves> +1 to add them to core
16:17:54 <johnsom> Ok, I will take care of that and send a note to the mailing list after the meeting.
16:17:57 <cgoncalves> we could take the opportunity and remove neutron-core group... ;-)
16:18:18 <johnsom> I think that should happen
16:18:53 <cgoncalves> haleyb, thoughts? I think you mentioned this in some gerrit review recently
16:20:05 <haleyb> cgoncalves: i think my ask was to see if you needed help with stable backports, as i do have +2 on that for neutron*
16:20:22 <haleyb> but stable +2 give it to you in all repos
16:24:26 <johnsom> octavia-dashboard-core update is done
16:24:59 <cgoncalves> thank you
16:25:51 <johnsom> #topic Open Discussion
16:26:01 <johnsom> Just going to move onto open discussion
16:26:51 <cgoncalves> ah, one thing. Queens is entering Extended Maintenance
16:26:59 <cgoncalves> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691340/
16:27:05 <johnsom> So I think the topic on the table is should we remove neutron-release from having core access on Octavia projects?
16:27:35 <cgoncalves> sorry, let's talk about core access first
16:28:07 <cgoncalves> I think so. Octavia is a standalone project
16:28:15 <johnsom> I think it is time as well
16:29:47 <johnsom> rm_work ?
16:32:28 <haleyb> neutron-release must have taken him out
16:32:32 <johnsom> I guess we lost him
16:32:58 <johnsom> Let's move on to queens EM and come back if he re-joins
16:33:15 <johnsom> So I see a few open patches: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+branch:stable/queens+project:openstack/octavia
16:33:33 <johnsom> Don't we need those cleaned up as well?
16:34:23 <cgoncalves> that is what I'd like to check with the team
16:34:57 <johnsom> It looks like some requirements issue crept into stable/queens with astroid
16:34:57 <cgoncalves> I expect queens backports to not stop even as it enters EM
16:35:18 <johnsom> probably because pep8 is running on python3 there.... hmmm
16:35:43 <cgoncalves> at some point we will have to enter EM regardless of open/unreleased backports
16:36:24 <johnsom> Right, it's just about what is in when the tag gets assigned.
16:36:40 <cgoncalves> just to make sure it is clear: backports to extended maintenance releases are possible. the change is there will be no dot releases no more
16:36:49 <johnsom> Are they planning to cut one last queens release or just tag it out?
16:37:06 <johnsom> Right
16:37:17 <cgoncalves> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691340/
16:37:36 <cgoncalves> we can still cut one last queens release if we wish to
16:37:59 <johnsom> Yeah, so looks like that will do one last release
16:38:15 <cgoncalves> there aren't that many unreleased patches, at least on Oct 25 when I checked (see my comment on Gerrit)
16:38:46 <cgoncalves> ah, yeah. sorry
16:39:43 <johnsom> This is the patch that jumps out at me frankly: "Fix amp failover where failover already failed"
16:39:51 <johnsom> #link https://review.opendev.org/650896
16:40:19 <cgoncalves> yep. see my comment
16:40:24 <johnsom> But I think we were stuck as it depended on a feature that isn't in queens
16:40:31 <cgoncalves> right
16:40:44 <johnsom> So, maybe we just abandon it
16:41:13 <cgoncalves> agreed. I just kept it open in case someone could think of an alternative approach
16:41:17 <cgoncalves> abandoning...
16:42:44 <johnsom> Ok. The other stuff probably isn't urgent
16:43:16 <johnsom> It's clear there is something wrong with the stable/queens pep8 though.
16:43:33 <cgoncalves> I am okay with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691340/ as is
16:43:53 <johnsom> Ok, fair enough with me
16:44:05 <ataraday_> I've got one question. On ptg will a video call be organized for taskflow jobboard status discussion? Do we need one?
16:45:26 <johnsom> We aren't sure if we can do video/audio conferencing. If you don't think we topics to cover on that, we can just comment as such on the etherpad. (I added that topic, mostly to make sure we are supporting your work)
16:45:28 <cgoncalves> I will be in Shanghai and can help facilitate a video call. Google Meet might be blocked, we can fall-back to Bluejeans
16:48:20 <ataraday_> All options are fine to me. I will  write status on the etherpad page
16:48:40 <cgoncalves> one thing to consider that might also not allow us to video conference, though, is the fact we will be sharing the same room with other project teams
16:49:12 <johnsom> Yeah, I expect it will be noisy
16:50:02 <johnsom> I would also like to only be available for the "morning" time slots Shanghai time, which would be my evening.
16:50:07 <ataraday_> so lets not do that then :) all questions could be asked here on channel :)
16:50:48 <cgoncalves> ok. let's still not close the possibility of video/audio conferencing
16:51:43 <xgerman> cgoncalves: might have a suite and host. bthe PTG there :-)
16:52:09 <cgoncalves> xgerman, hah! good memories of Dublin PTG
16:52:26 <xgerman> +1 - also now you have a reason to book one ;-)
16:56:16 <cgoncalves> johnsom, ping
16:56:30 <johnsom> yes
16:56:40 <johnsom> Are we done on the PTG topic?
16:56:52 <johnsom> Any other topics today?
16:57:19 <johnsom> If not, have a great PTG for the folks attending!
16:57:30 <johnsom> #endmeeting