16:00:31 <gthiemonge> #startmeeting Octavia
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16:00:31 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'octavia'
16:00:35 <gthiemonge> Hi Folks!
16:00:47 <tweining> o/
16:01:01 <johnsom> o/
16:01:21 <fkr> o/
16:02:04 <matfechner> o/
16:02:25 <gthiemonge> #topic Announcements
16:02:29 <gthiemonge> a quick announcement
16:02:43 <gthiemonge> I'm proposing to add tweining to the Octavia core reviewers
16:02:55 <gthiemonge> see "[Octavia] Proposing Tom Weininger as core reviewer" on openstack-discuss
16:03:15 <gthiemonge> if no one raises any concerns about it, I'm going to add him next Tuesday
16:03:21 <johnsom> Yes! congratulations. I think we have a core quorum on the email chain
16:03:29 <gthiemonge> then we will celebrate during the next weekly meeting ;-)
16:03:40 <tweining> thank you :)
16:03:41 <gthiemonge> well all the active core reviwes have replied
16:03:57 <fkr> congrats tweining
16:04:47 <gthiemonge> folks, prepare your list of patches you want to get merged!
16:05:11 <gthiemonge> ;-)
16:05:45 <gthiemonge> and another small announcement:
16:06:07 <gthiemonge> I'm going to restore the Octavia priority reviews etherpad
16:06:17 <gthiemonge> (the one linked in the topic of this channel)
16:06:33 <gthiemonge> so we will be able to prioritize the reviews of feature patches
16:06:45 <gthiemonge> we have 9 weeks until the Feature Freeze for Zed
16:07:33 <tweining> mmh, it seems hard to keep the list updated
16:08:06 <johnsom> We have been pretty successful with a priority list in the past
16:08:11 <gthiemonge> tweining: we use at the very end of the development release, when we are really close to the deadlines
16:08:36 <johnsom> It just takes work to maintain it....
16:08:43 <gthiemonge> it could give us a look of what Octava zed will be
16:08:58 <gthiemonge> I may have a script that would help me
16:09:15 <tweining> it's good that it exists, but more automation would certainly help
16:09:45 <gthiemonge> yeah I agree
16:09:46 <tweining> for instance there could be a tag field in Gerrit for it
16:10:04 <tweining> than we could filter there
16:10:05 <gthiemonge> I think some project have a priority review vote
16:10:20 <gthiemonge> but it is limited
16:10:41 <gthiemonge> yeah devstack utilizes it: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/848083
16:12:15 <gthiemonge> I don't know if people pay attention to it, but I think a full list in the etherpad is also a good way to split the reviews into multiple categories and to give more visibility than a single field
16:12:42 <gthiemonge> anyways, I will send a message on this channel when the list for Zed is ready ;-)
16:13:19 <gthiemonge> tweining: you're going to have a lot of work
16:13:46 <tweining> hehe. we'll see :)
16:14:07 <gthiemonge> #topic CI Status
16:14:14 <gthiemonge> so far so good!
16:14:21 <gthiemonge> I'm planning to focus on centos 9 straem support
16:14:22 <gthiemonge> but...
16:14:49 <gthiemonge> AFAIK there's a bug in libvirt in c9s that prevents an interface from being plugged into a VM (like the VIP port in an amphora :/)
16:15:05 <gthiemonge> downgrading libvirt (to 8.3.0) is a workaround but I don't know if we can pin RPM packages in devstack
16:15:12 <gthiemonge> maybe we should wait for a fix...
16:15:51 <johnsom> Last I heard, it might make it into centos 9 stream the second week in July
16:16:31 <tweining> Regarding CI: tripleo gate was blocked which cause a bit frustration on my side: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/842073 I hope it works now
16:16:49 <tweining> otherwise I'll probably need to open a bugreport for it
16:17:51 <gthiemonge> tweining: for these types of issues you can ping people on #tripleo or on #oooq
16:18:03 <tweining> yes, I did this morning
16:18:32 <tweining> I discussed it briefly with Takashi
16:19:17 <gthiemonge> ok
16:19:37 <gthiemonge> #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review
16:20:17 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/octavia stable/ussuri: Fix compile_amphora_details when using UDP listeners  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/839852
16:20:38 <gthiemonge> just FYI, we have a few opened backports:
16:20:44 <gthiemonge> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/octavia+status:open+branch:%255Estable/.*
16:20:49 <gthiemonge> I also need to review them
16:21:21 <johnsom> Just a few, lol
16:22:11 <gthiemonge> only 2 pages
16:24:02 <gthiemonge> the CI for octavia-dashboard is broken (new angularJS release), I have a patch that fixes most of the issues
16:24:08 <gthiemonge> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia-dashboard/+/846176
16:24:33 <johnsom> That was discussed in the horizon meeting today.
16:24:33 <gthiemonge> but it is failing because, I think, we need to update/bump the testing tools
16:24:54 <johnsom> It seems there is a ` instead of ' in horizon somewhere that breaks with phantomjs.
16:25:03 <gthiemonge> oh
16:25:07 <gthiemonge> https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/680a0fe17bcb468db43aa17d4e774c7f
16:25:09 <johnsom> Someone was going to propose a fix
16:25:21 <gthiemonge> phantomjs is not happy with the horizon code
16:25:32 <gthiemonge> I'll take a look at the horizon meeting notes
16:25:35 <johnsom> I saw the same with designate-dashboard, but stuck with firefox instead of phantomjs to work around it
16:25:56 <johnsom> Yeah, it's impacting a bunch of horizon plugins
16:26:41 <johnsom> Most moved to phantomjs to get around some breaking changes that were happening in firefox
16:27:40 <gthiemonge> ok
16:32:12 <gthiemonge> #topic Open Discussion
16:33:07 <johnsom> I don't have anything this week. Just a bunch of backports to review. lol
16:33:16 <fkr> Regarding the OIF summit forum session: I've been reaching out to the various operators in order to get feedback on items to be able to provide stories / feedback / bugreports
16:33:44 <fkr> I've started to further comment in the etherpad - since johnsonm was so kind to add various feedback there
16:34:02 <fkr> (https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oif-summit-berlin-2022-forum-lbaas)
16:34:09 <fkr> to have it in the log directly
16:34:13 <johnsom> Oh cool, I will go have a look again
16:34:31 <gthiemonge> thank you fkr!
16:34:41 <fkr> johnsom: don't rush it, here and there it will take a while, but am on it :)
16:35:00 <johnsom> Ok, feel free to ping me
16:35:18 <fkr> last week it was also concluded that certain statements are very broad, am also trying to get them to become more specific
16:35:38 <johnsom> Oh, I do have one more topic. I will be taking some vacation next week, so limited availability.
16:36:55 <tweining> I may take one or two days off next week as well. not sure yet.
16:37:15 <johnsom> Yeah, the error field thing. So operators that participated in the Octavia design had SLA concerns about exposing too much error information directly to the users. I.e. they didn't want us to say "Nova is out of compute resources".
16:38:06 <fkr> johnsom: ack. I did ping damien from OVH about it to see wether he can provide some more insights into what they have in mind.
16:38:32 <johnsom> Yeah, would be good to get feedback/story to help address that.
16:38:59 <johnsom> Maybe we add an API that queries the root error information that can be managed with RBAC for who can see the info.
16:39:27 <johnsom> Definitely options, just need guidence
16:43:05 <gthiemonge> johnsom: yes I agree
16:44:42 <gthiemonge> ok folks, anything else?
16:45:49 <tweining> maybe a note that I started looking into amp vertical scaling
16:46:03 <tweining> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/848105 is anyone is interested
16:46:17 <gthiemonge> ack, thanks tweining
16:46:46 <tweining> apart from that I think there's nothing. do more reviews.
16:46:55 <johnsom> It's really "optimizing" vertical scaling as we already have vertical scaling with the latest LB engines
16:47:08 <tweining> right
16:50:08 <gthiemonge> ok folks, thank you!
16:50:14 <gthiemonge> #endmeeting