21:01:13 #startmeeting 21:01:14 Meeting started Tue Jan 25 21:01:13 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:01:19 Welcome to our weekly OpenStack team meeting... 21:01:26 Today's agenda is at: 21:01:32 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 21:01:38 #topic Actions from previous meeting 21:01:46 * ttx to summarize the decision on live-migration: DONE 21:01:56 Note that NTT Data finally decided to defer to merging early in Cactus. 21:02:05 * ttx to turn his failed IRC attempt to a real vote 21:02:24 That was done, the poll ended one hour ago. And the winner is... 21:02:26 Diablo! 21:02:40 By a fair margin. Results at the bottom of https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/d-release-naming 21:03:27 ha 21:03:29 Good fight put up by Dublin and Dorris fans 21:03:44 #topic Current release stage: QA 21:04:00 #info We are now deep into QA stage. We need to test, find and fix and merge as many bugs as we can before GammaFreeze. 21:04:16 #info GammaFreeze is at EOD Thursday, at that point we'll restrict merging to release-critical issues only 21:04:35 Release-critical issues are bugs that we estimate we can't release with. It's usually all "critical" bugs, and most "High" bugs. 21:04:49 That said, sometimes we include other less-important issues that would be a problem if we released with them 21:05:07 Example: "Use Glance instead of KRM json to Relate Images": if we don't fix that wishlist item, we need to document use of the KRM json... which we want to drop asap. 21:05:42 To ask for a bug to be added to the RC buglist, you should comment on the corresponding bugs and explain why we can't release without the bugfix and why it can't break something else. 21:05:57 Prefixing bug subject by "[RC]" and/or pinging me (or a member of the corresponding "Drivers" team) should do the trick. 21:06:02 Questions ? 21:06:53 ok, moving on... 21:07:03 #topic Release status 21:07:16 We stopped merging full feature branches, so the table at http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ is final 21:07:32 I think we retrospectively created blueprints for significant stuff that was merged, let me know if we missed anything. 21:07:48 We may still have "default behavior" changes that need FFe, but I'd like to have them in ASAP. That includes: 21:07:58 * https://code.launchpad.net/~rconradharris/nova/kernel_ramdisk_glance/+merge/47170 21:08:05 * https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/friendly-db/+merge/46797 21:08:14 Please review them in priority. 21:08:41 I've started working on RC buglists. After a small discussion with creiht, they are now using milestones instead of series, now: 21:08:51 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/bexar-rc 21:08:56 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.2.0 21:09:15 #action ttx to sync with jaypipes wrt. glance milestones and RC buglists 21:09:32 ttx: I'm here... 21:09:37 jaypipes: will talk to you later, i'm a bit lost with your Glance milestones :) 21:09:41 ttx: sorry, meeting with pvo and lauren as we speak.. 21:09:53 ttx: the milestones are necessary when you do a release... 21:10:37 jaypipes: I'll ping you about Glance status, probably tomorrow morning 21:10:53 Any question on release status ? 21:12:03 I saw we uncovered a critical issue running on separate systems 21:12:10 bug 707554 21:12:42 I'll try to spend some cycles on that 21:12:49 ok, moving on 21:12:58 #topic Review of docs.openstack.org - progress report and review request 21:13:08 Unfortunately annegentle is sick, I'm copypasting for her: 21:13:16 annegentle> I am sick and can't talk at the meeting about the ongoing work for docs.openstack.org. I did want to pass along two URLs for people who want to take a look at the plans and work-in-progress. 21:13:22 annegentle> How to for editing documentation: 21:13:26 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation/HowTo 21:13:31 annegentle> The PDF (rough draft, still working on output and source) 21:13:37 #link http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~annegentle/openstack-devel/working/view/head:/doc/build/target/docbkx/pdf/os-book.pdf 21:13:44 annegentle> Again I apologize - I will keep everyone updated on the mailing list once the site itself is ready for review. 21:14:33 get well soon anne, if you read through the logs:) 21:14:44 #topic Cactus preparation 21:14:50 * ttx hands the mike to dendrobates 21:14:58 The themes for Cactus are stability and testing. 21:15:15 yay 21:15:33 our goal for cactus is to merge any major changes asap and spend most of the cycle fixing things up 21:16:04 with that in mind, we need all proposed blueprints for cactus in by bexar release 21:16:35 dendrobates: maybe we should move FeatureFreeze a bit up in the schedule ? 21:16:46 ttx: good idea 21:17:08 dendrobates: we'll finalize the Cactus schedule next week. 21:17:30 So please let us know about any blueprints asap 21:17:56 we will also be a bit tougher about what we accept for the release 21:18:06 dendrobates: what about the "deferred" blueprints from http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ ? 21:18:10 so please do not take it personally if we defer your feature 21:18:38 ttx: it depends on how far they are along. We will want to merge them asap in the cycle 21:18:53 so their assignee repropose them for Cactus at some point 21:19:00 if code exists and they just missed they will almost certainly go in 21:19:01 should repropose* 21:19:10 yes 21:19:15 ok 21:19:46 we're going to need to add some more BPs to fill out our feature set 21:19:53 any questions? 21:19:58 I'll work with ttx and dendrobates on which ones should go in 21:20:23 comments? 21:20:51 Sounds good to me. 21:21:03 * ttx likes more testing. 21:21:17 ok, I'm done 21:21:25 #topic Open discussion 21:21:41 ttx: actually I added a topic at the last minute 21:21:46 arh 21:21:51 * ttx refreshes 21:21:57 this blueprint is pretty much complete, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/frontend-heterogenous-architecture-support, just needs testing module. 21:22:17 #topic New process for becoming core dev 21:22:26 dendrobates: floor is yours again 21:22:44 the core dev proposal was approved and we can now start adding core devs 21:22:55 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Approved/CoreDevProcess 21:23:08 it's pretty simple 21:23:22 * vishy slides in late 21:23:29 just send an email to the list asking to become a core dev 21:23:48 and the existing core devs will vote lazy consensus style 21:24:29 I have a wiki page describing the responsibilities of a core dev that I will be putting up soon 21:24:41 and I will send an email to the list about the process. 21:24:49 #end 21:25:06 dendrobates: do you plan to have a process for removing coredevs, or should they just step down considerately ? 21:25:19 right now the later. 21:25:20 (like, when they don't have time to do reviews anymore) 21:25:37 we so have a plan to make all team memberships expire after a year 21:25:49 but you just need to click a link to renew 21:26:12 that will clean up people that drop off the face of the earth 21:26:12 I think it's important to have -core team that is representative of active reviewers (as opposed to past active reviewers) 21:26:23 agreed 21:26:35 although inactivity does no actual harm 21:27:04 ok, back to... 21:27:09 #topic Open discussion again 21:27:19 anything else ? comments questions ? 21:27:32 hey all, i'd like to talk about the openstack django dashboard briefly 21:27:41 its up, but i haven't formally announced it to the mailing list yet 21:27:47 because it still needs a bit of content loving 21:27:50 devcamcar: screenshots! 21:28:17 ttx: i will provide some non home page screenshots today 21:28:30 i'm hoping to find a few people that can help provide content for the home page 21:28:38 both design and copy 21:28:54 devcamcar: tutorial on setting it up! 21:29:00 devcamcar: is it fully operational ? ( I get errors when clicking on the images link within a project) 21:29:57 it is fully operational 21:30:04 it is the same backend code that nasa is using for the nebula dashboard 21:30:15 so if you are running into specific issues find my on irc and i can help you troubleshoot 21:30:17 * ttx notes that his list of things to test is growing at an insane rate 21:30:31 installation directions are provided in the READMEs in the lp repos 21:30:51 located at http://launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard 21:31:40 soren ttx and I will be at fosdem in Brussels next week if anyone want to grab a beer or test the release with us. 21:31:45 (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devcamcar/openstack-dashboard/trunk/view/head:/README) 21:32:18 dendrobates: I know Daviey should be there over the weekend 21:32:55 ok, let's wrap up 21:33:05 #endmeeting