20:00:40 <jbryce> #startmeeting 20:00:41 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Mar 17 20:00:40 2011 UTC. The chair is jbryce. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:42 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:01:21 <soren> o/ 20:01:24 <jbryce> agenda is on the wiki: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/PPB 20:01:45 <jbryce> hi soren 20:01:52 <soren> Hey. 20:01:54 <soren> I made it. 20:01:58 <soren> On time and everything. 20:01:58 <jbryce> sweet! 20:01:59 <soren> WEll, almost. 20:02:01 <soren> :) 20:02:09 <jbryce> anyone else? 20:02:26 <ewanmellor> Here 20:02:31 <sirp_> o/ 20:03:10 <jbryce> jesse and josh both claimed they would make it 20:05:14 * jbryce tries to find them 20:06:49 <jbryce> that makes 4 20:07:19 <dendrobates> sorry I'm late 20:07:31 <jbryce> dendrobates: no prob 20:07:43 <jbryce> we've got 5 now so let's commence some business 20:07:51 <jbryce> #topic Incubation/new project process 20:08:00 <jbryce> http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess 20:08:22 <jbryce> we discussed this last week and there were a number of changes. i think i incorporated them all. 20:09:21 <jbryce> anyone have any further questions/concerns/comments on it? 20:10:32 <ewanmellor> It's fine by me 20:10:32 <joshuamckenty> Skimming... 20:10:42 * soren skims, too 20:11:05 <creiht> sorry I'm a little late 20:11:27 <jbryce> creiht: do you have a note? 20:11:32 <creiht> heh 20:11:38 <creiht> spring break? :) 20:11:39 <jbryce> we're discussing this: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess 20:11:54 <creiht> took the kids to six flags this morning 20:12:07 <joshuamckenty> +1 on the NewProjectProcess 20:12:24 <ewanmellor> +1 20:12:51 <creiht> +1 for me 20:12:53 <soren> Fine with me. 20:13:01 <sirp_> +1 20:13:27 <jbryce> hi jesse...just voting on http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess 20:14:23 <anotherjesse> is it up to me? 20:14:33 <anotherjesse> I'm reviewing to see if anything has changed in the last week 20:14:41 <dendrobates> +1 20:14:50 <jbryce> i made changes based on what we talked about last week 20:15:34 <anotherjesse> perhaps an addition that says they should put forward their choice for PTL? 20:15:38 <anotherjesse> if it is to become a new project 20:15:50 <anotherjesse> or is that a step after joining? 20:16:05 <anotherjesse> nevermind - see it in 3.2 20:16:07 <anotherjesse> +1 20:16:16 <jbryce> ok 20:16:28 <jbryce> #agreed to approve the proposal for new project process 20:16:35 <jbryce> #topic Standards body activity 20:17:13 <jbryce> we've talked about this in various combinations of the group and have gone back and forth a little, but it seems like generally we want to leave this to individual organizations for now 20:17:16 <jbryce> is that correct? 20:17:26 <anotherjesse> yes 20:17:51 <soren> That seems to be the consensus, yeah 20:18:39 <jbryce> ok...i will move it to the rejected pile for now and let bret know 20:19:06 <jbryce> #agreed standards body activity will be undertaken by individual companies for now rather than an official openstack open source effort 20:19:28 <jbryce> i keep misspelling agreed when i'm typing those out.... 20:19:45 <jbryce> #topic Splitting existing projects 20:20:11 <jbryce> based off the feedback from last week, i put together a proposal on dividing up an existing project: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/SplitExistingProjectProcess 20:20:42 <jbryce> for example to split networking and/or storage out from nova 20:22:43 <jbryce> thoughts? 20:24:03 <anotherjesse> so - it meets the process for new ones, plus has the blessing of community that it should happen 20:24:07 <anotherjesse> seems reasonable 20:24:17 <creiht> yeah seems reasonable 20:25:33 <jbryce> ok...let's take a vote 20:26:40 <anotherjesse> +1 20:26:42 <soren> +1 20:26:46 <creiht> +1 20:26:47 <ewanmellor> +1 20:26:49 * soren was waiting for the #vote thing. 20:26:49 <dendrobates> +1 20:27:39 <jbryce> #agreed approved process for splitting existing projects 20:27:57 <jbryce> #topic next meeting time 20:28:17 <jbryce> we've got our best attendance in a while today. does this time work (20:00 UTC) going forward? 20:28:38 <creiht> works for me 20:28:41 <jbryce> is there something i can do to help everyone remember? do you use calendar invites? 20:28:56 <ewanmellor> Outlook FTW. 20:28:58 <soren> An ical feed somewhere would be convenine.t 20:29:02 <soren> convenient, even. 20:29:09 <anotherjesse> jbryce - ya - anything I can stuff into my calendar is great 20:29:14 <anotherjesse> then scheduling other meetings is easier 20:29:16 <creiht> jbryce: I like the emails the morning of :) 20:29:28 <creiht> and a calander meeting invite works as well 20:29:29 <anotherjesse> creiht is lucky... 20:29:31 <soren> Anyways, we have three new people joining after the election. They may have different time constraints. 20:29:41 <anotherjesse> must not have many other meeting requests - or do you just ignore them? 20:29:56 <creiht> hehe 20:30:08 <jbryce> soren: true. but at least we'll have something established 20:30:20 <jbryce> #todo jbryce to spam the group with invites, ical feeds and emails the morning of 20:30:25 <jbryce> #topic anything else? 20:30:41 <ewanmellor> Meet-up plans for Santa Clara? 20:30:45 <soren> It's #action, not #todo, I think. 20:30:58 <jbryce> haha...true 20:31:09 <jbryce> #action member:jbryce to spam the group with invites, ical feeds and emails the morning of 20:31:29 * soren kicks the bot around a bit 20:31:46 <soren> In spirit only. I don't actually have any power over it. 20:32:01 <jbryce> ewanmellor: when? 20:32:16 <ewanmellor> Some time around the conference / summit. 20:32:22 <ewanmellor> We should have beer and kick back. 20:32:55 <ewanmellor> Or is it too early to be thinking about that? 20:32:56 <soren> I expect to do that every day. You are all free to join. 20:33:19 <jbryce> ewanmellor: sounds like a good idea 20:33:27 <jbryce> soren: sounds like a better idea. = ) 20:33:38 <jbryce> are you all in santa clara the whole week of the summit? 20:33:38 <ewanmellor> I will be in Santa Clara the week before, so if anyone else is around, just say the word. 20:33:47 <creiht> I will be there 20:33:56 <ewanmellor> Yes, the full week before and the full week during. 20:34:46 <jbryce> i get in on tuesday the week of. do we want to plan something tuesday evening? 20:36:03 <joshuamckenty> +1 to Tuesday evening 20:36:17 <jbryce> ok...that's all i've got. anyone else? 20:37:03 <jbryce> thanks for showing up. talk to you guys later 20:37:12 <jbryce> #endmeeting