20:00:40 #startmeeting 20:00:41 Meeting started Thu Mar 17 20:00:40 2011 UTC. The chair is jbryce. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:01:21 o/ 20:01:24 agenda is on the wiki: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/PPB 20:01:45 hi soren 20:01:52 Hey. 20:01:54 I made it. 20:01:58 On time and everything. 20:01:58 sweet! 20:01:59 WEll, almost. 20:02:01 :) 20:02:09 anyone else? 20:02:26 Here 20:02:31 o/ 20:03:10 jesse and josh both claimed they would make it 20:05:14 * jbryce tries to find them 20:06:49 that makes 4 20:07:19 sorry I'm late 20:07:31 dendrobates: no prob 20:07:43 we've got 5 now so let's commence some business 20:07:51 #topic Incubation/new project process 20:08:00 http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess 20:08:22 we discussed this last week and there were a number of changes. i think i incorporated them all. 20:09:21 anyone have any further questions/concerns/comments on it? 20:10:32 It's fine by me 20:10:32 Skimming... 20:10:42 * soren skims, too 20:11:05 sorry I'm a little late 20:11:27 creiht: do you have a note? 20:11:32 heh 20:11:38 spring break? :) 20:11:39 we're discussing this: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess 20:11:54 took the kids to six flags this morning 20:12:07 +1 on the NewProjectProcess 20:12:24 +1 20:12:51 +1 for me 20:12:53 Fine with me. 20:13:01 +1 20:13:27 hi jesse...just voting on http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess 20:14:23 is it up to me? 20:14:33 I'm reviewing to see if anything has changed in the last week 20:14:41 +1 20:14:50 i made changes based on what we talked about last week 20:15:34 perhaps an addition that says they should put forward their choice for PTL? 20:15:38 if it is to become a new project 20:15:50 or is that a step after joining? 20:16:05 nevermind - see it in 3.2 20:16:07 +1 20:16:16 ok 20:16:28 #agreed to approve the proposal for new project process 20:16:35 #topic Standards body activity 20:17:13 we've talked about this in various combinations of the group and have gone back and forth a little, but it seems like generally we want to leave this to individual organizations for now 20:17:16 is that correct? 20:17:26 yes 20:17:51 That seems to be the consensus, yeah 20:18:39 ok...i will move it to the rejected pile for now and let bret know 20:19:06 #agreed standards body activity will be undertaken by individual companies for now rather than an official openstack open source effort 20:19:28 i keep misspelling agreed when i'm typing those out.... 20:19:45 #topic Splitting existing projects 20:20:11 based off the feedback from last week, i put together a proposal on dividing up an existing project: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/SplitExistingProjectProcess 20:20:42 for example to split networking and/or storage out from nova 20:22:43 thoughts? 20:24:03 so - it meets the process for new ones, plus has the blessing of community that it should happen 20:24:07 seems reasonable 20:24:17 yeah seems reasonable 20:25:33 ok...let's take a vote 20:26:40 +1 20:26:42 +1 20:26:46 +1 20:26:47 +1 20:26:49 * soren was waiting for the #vote thing. 20:26:49 +1 20:27:39 #agreed approved process for splitting existing projects 20:27:57 #topic next meeting time 20:28:17 we've got our best attendance in a while today. does this time work (20:00 UTC) going forward? 20:28:38 works for me 20:28:41 is there something i can do to help everyone remember? do you use calendar invites? 20:28:56 Outlook FTW. 20:28:58 An ical feed somewhere would be convenine.t 20:29:02 convenient, even. 20:29:09 jbryce - ya - anything I can stuff into my calendar is great 20:29:14 then scheduling other meetings is easier 20:29:16 jbryce: I like the emails the morning of :) 20:29:28 and a calander meeting invite works as well 20:29:29 creiht is lucky... 20:29:31 Anyways, we have three new people joining after the election. They may have different time constraints. 20:29:41 must not have many other meeting requests - or do you just ignore them? 20:29:56 hehe 20:30:08 soren: true. but at least we'll have something established 20:30:20 #todo jbryce to spam the group with invites, ical feeds and emails the morning of 20:30:25 #topic anything else? 20:30:41 Meet-up plans for Santa Clara? 20:30:45 It's #action, not #todo, I think. 20:30:58 haha...true 20:31:09 #action member:jbryce to spam the group with invites, ical feeds and emails the morning of 20:31:29 * soren kicks the bot around a bit 20:31:46 In spirit only. I don't actually have any power over it. 20:32:01 ewanmellor: when? 20:32:16 Some time around the conference / summit. 20:32:22 We should have beer and kick back. 20:32:55 Or is it too early to be thinking about that? 20:32:56 I expect to do that every day. You are all free to join. 20:33:19 ewanmellor: sounds like a good idea 20:33:27 soren: sounds like a better idea. = ) 20:33:38 are you all in santa clara the whole week of the summit? 20:33:38 I will be in Santa Clara the week before, so if anyone else is around, just say the word. 20:33:47 I will be there 20:33:56 Yes, the full week before and the full week during. 20:34:46 i get in on tuesday the week of. do we want to plan something tuesday evening? 20:36:03 +1 to Tuesday evening 20:36:17 ok...that's all i've got. anyone else? 20:37:03 thanks for showing up. talk to you guys later 20:37:12 #endmeeting