22:09:07 <danwent> #startmeeting
22:09:08 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 27 22:09:07 2011 UTC.  The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:09:11 <edgarmagana> Dan: Thanks for the heads up
22:09:12 <dendrobates> o/
22:09:14 <markvoelker> o/
22:09:17 <danwent> hey all.
22:09:25 <carlp> hello!
22:09:26 <danwent> edgar: np
22:09:31 <bhall_> howdy
22:09:40 <danwent> btw, salv is stuck at SFO trying to get his car rental
22:09:46 <troytoman> o/
22:10:08 <danwent> he sends his regrets
22:10:26 <danwent> should be a pretty short meeting though
22:10:31 <danwent> ok
22:10:47 <danwent> agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings
22:10:51 <danwent> #topic general status
22:11:04 <danwent> design summit is next week, hope to see you all in boston
22:11:23 <danwent> today is the last day to get proposals in, but space for netstack items is already overflowing.
22:11:54 <dendrobates> I highly suggest we make use of the unconference for overflow
22:11:59 <danwent> we've had to drastically cut down on the time for our sessions.  hopefully we can make a lot of use of the unconference space though, as I want to make sure everyone gets a chance to discuss what they want to cover
22:12:04 <danwent> :)
22:12:23 <danwent> does anyone have a session that they think is really important, but haven't proposed?
22:12:44 <danwent> its now or never…. (or rather, not until the next summit)
22:13:18 <danwent> Ok, so the plan is to start the summit focusing on more tactical items that are fairly well understood (e.g., API v1.1)
22:13:43 <danwent> Then we'll branch into general discussions about how to insert more advanced network services.
22:14:05 <danwent> finally, we'll have sessions to talk about a few of those specific services that people are most interested in.
22:14:09 <danwent> does that sound reasonable?
22:14:17 <dendrobates> yes
22:14:39 <danwent> hopefully we can leave some space at the end so people can find unconference space to branch out from there
22:14:55 <danwent> Ok, great.  Any other questions/concerns about the summit/conference?
22:15:05 <danwent> schedules still aren't set.
22:15:19 <danwent> ttx said that summit schedule may not be finalized until close to monday.
22:15:24 <edgarmagana> dan: the session about networking services is the one that you have submitted?
22:15:43 <danwent> edgar: I think we'll merge your session and mine into a 55-minute session.
22:15:55 <danwent> does that sound reasonable?
22:16:01 <edgarmagana> dan: Absolutely!
22:16:06 <danwent> I think this will be a key topic of interest, so I definitely want to make sure it gets time.
22:16:17 <danwent> great
22:16:36 <danwent> Ok, that's it for the summit.  let's move on to the regular agenda
22:16:41 <danwent> #topic donabe status
22:16:54 <danwent> (shaking it up, putting donabe in front of melange :P)
22:16:59 <dendrobates> ha
22:17:18 <dendrobates> I sent out an email about tomorrows meeting
22:17:33 <dendrobates> we are going to try webex but fall back to irc, if there is a problem
22:17:47 <danwent> dendrobates:  I may need to channel salvatore and request that we alternate between webex and go-to-meeting
22:17:48 <dendrobates> I will be sending out an agenda before the meeting
22:18:05 <dendrobates> danwent: that is fine as long as we can record the session
22:18:09 <danwent> :P
22:18:17 <danwent> actually, i prefer webex
22:18:28 <dendrobates> It may be a total failure, but it is worth a try
22:18:42 <danwent> I think its great to try to get people on the same page pre-summit
22:19:04 <dendrobates> That's really the only update  I have.
22:19:11 <danwent> ok, any questions for donabe?
22:19:29 <danwent> #topic melange status
22:19:34 <danwent> troy?
22:19:43 <troytoman> have moved the merge prop over to git/gerrit
22:19:52 <troytoman> working through comments
22:20:17 <troytoman> also closing gaps between the nova/quantum/melange flow
22:20:37 <troytoman> finally, should finish up some of the nova refactoring to make the integration cleaner
22:20:38 <danwent> troytoman: yeah, i definitely things there still room for that as well.  I would add dashboard to the mix too.
22:20:48 <troytoman> that's about it
22:21:17 <danwent> one of the sessions we'll have on monday is going to focus on that flow from the user perspective.  should be very helpful.
22:21:21 <carlp> troytoman: TV and I would love to chat with you next week re: discovery
22:21:34 <troytoman> may have host a unconference discussion about how to enable multi-nic/quantum in nova api
22:21:49 <troytoman> carlp: sure thing
22:22:07 <danwent> troy: I think we can cover that to some degree in the flow session, then perhaps have an unconference to do more detailed design.
22:22:09 <troytoman> so that you can select networks and add vifs at create time
22:22:12 <danwent> agree that it is really important
22:22:18 <troytoman> danwent: perfect
22:22:25 <danwent> ok, any other questions for melange?
22:22:30 <troytoman> danwent: sounds like the right place
22:22:57 <danwent> #topic quantum status
22:23:00 <troytoman> ok. see everyone next week!
22:23:05 <danwent> troy: thx
22:23:15 <danwent> quantum release went out.
22:23:24 <danwent> Big thanks to Salvatore for the v1.0 API doc.
22:23:37 <danwent> Thanks for all for reviews on the Quantum Admin Guide.
22:23:54 <bhall_> thanks to dan for the admin guide and last minute merges :)
22:23:58 <danwent> it would be great to have input on how to setup quantum + dashboard, so we are ready to go once keystone releases.
22:24:05 <troytoman> danwent: thanks for all your leadership on that. awesome work everyone!
22:24:22 <danwent> markvoelker here?
22:24:23 <edgarmagana> dan: +1 last time I tried ran into some issues
22:24:32 <danwent> or arvind?
22:24:42 <markvoelker> o/
22:25:00 <zns> ttx: sorry - missed you. If you're still around, my understanding is that Keystone is now Diablo compatible. Is there anything missing?
22:25:15 <danwent> hey mark, are you folks planning on doing a session at the summit about dashboard + quantum?
22:25:20 <zns> devcamcar: is this bug a show-stopper for you or does it just result in admins seeing all tenants?
22:25:23 <danwent> or should be just roll that into the flow discussion?
22:25:46 <danwent> zns: sorry, main openstack meeting is over and people have likely left.  This is the NetStack meeting.
22:26:10 <markvoelker> I don't currently have one planned, but there has been some chatter about what we'd like to see.  May be a good topic for unconference
22:26:11 <zns> danwent: ok - sorry to butt in.
22:26:32 <danwent> zns: np
22:26:47 <somik> unconference or I did see salvatore propose a session, so roll dashboard discussions into that..
22:27:07 <markvoelker> Either way works for me. =)
22:27:14 <danwent> markvoelker: ok, great.  I'm sure this will come up in the discussion on flow, which Salv proposed.  If there are details beyond that, we can do an unconference.
22:27:30 <danwent> I'll try to make sure day 3 has sufficient time for unconference sessions resulting from earlier sessions.
22:27:47 <danwent> Ok, any other comments on the release or docs?
22:28:04 <danwent> I think we probably already covered the summit + conference at the begining of the meeting.
22:28:31 <danwent> we got a lot of good press for quantum, as Quantum was mentioned in the main OpenStack release announcement.  very cool.
22:28:56 <danwent> bhall, anything you need to discuss about the shift to github, gerrit?
22:29:03 <danwent> is everyone getting review emails now?
22:29:34 <bhall_> danwent: I talked to jeblair about this this morning
22:29:57 <bhall_> the way it works now is that anyone that wants emails about new reviews/etc needs to go add themselves as watchers in gerrit to the quantum project
22:30:09 <danwent> got a link?
22:30:15 <bhall_> I can send out an email about how to do this
22:30:40 <danwent> ok great.  thanks.
22:31:02 <danwent> in that email, could you also include the pointer on how to transfer a diff from launchpad over the github?
22:31:03 <bhall_> but, until I do that, just go here: https://review.openstack.org/#settings,projects
22:31:07 <bhall_> and add quantum
22:31:08 <bhall_> sure
22:31:16 <danwent> Ok, great.  Any other questions on quantum?
22:31:36 <danwent> #topic open discussion
22:32:07 <danwent> ok, that was short and sweet.
22:32:34 <danwent> everyone please do send out what you have as far as blueprints ahead of the summit meeting itself
22:33:10 <danwent> hopefully we'll have an finalized netstack agenda by tomorrow.  We may have to wait longer to know the exact time of sessions though.
22:33:15 <danwent> see you all in boston :)
22:33:30 <danwent> #endmeeting