20:13:58 #startmeeting 20:13:59 Meeting started Tue Jan 3 20:13:58 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:14:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:14:11 Only item on http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/PPB: 20:14:22 #topic Spring election process 20:14:33 I'd like to quickly talk about the next round of PPB elections. 20:14:48 Unless something happened that I don't know about, it looks like the foundation won't be set up by March... 20:14:59 So we'll need to elect replacements for 5 PTLs and 2 community members. 20:15:19 We need them elected at least one month before the next design summit (April 16), and roughly 6 months after the last election (September 4). 20:15:28 So I propose the following dates: 20:15:40 Nomination: February 16 -> Sunday, February 26, 23:59 UTC 20:15:52 Election: February 28 -> Thursday, March 8, 23:59 UTC 20:16:08 And have Stefano Maffulli (reed) serving as the election official 20:16:22 Any objection ? 20:16:26 or comment ? 20:16:54 that seems fine 20:17:05 sounds good 20:17:10 +1 20:17:45 Ok, I'll pass the baby to reed with the dates :) 20:17:53 +1 20:18:11 um 20:18:18 jmckenty: um um ? 20:18:19 as long as stefano isn't running 20:18:38 jmckenty: obviously. I'll ask him. Anyone else you would suggest ? 20:18:54 (in case Steafno wants to be free to run) ? 20:20:12 jmckenty: obviously. I'll ask him. Anyone else you would suggest ? 20:20:16 (in case Steafno wants to be free to run) ? 20:20:27 lloyd dewolf would be happy to do it 20:21:14 jmckenty: noted. I guess we can have two election officials anyway 20:22:02 anything more on that subject ? 20:23:07 #action ttx to pass the dates to Stefano and Lloyd so that they organize the election 20:23:29 #topic Open discussion 20:23:40 Anything else ? 20:23:49 Are these weekly meetings needed or can we move them to monthly? 20:24:04 or as needed? 20:24:21 seems like they're mostly running as-needed at the moment anyway 20:24:29 Are there any updates at all on the foundation front? 20:24:35 I have a hunch they'll ramp up as we get towards foundation news 20:24:43 I show up every week (or most every week) only to have them cancelled last minute 20:24:50 +1 ^ 20:24:51 pvo: ++ 20:24:57 ++ 20:25:04 pvo: I think one issue is that we are a bit stalled on the foundation front apparently, which leaves the PPB is a bit of an awkward situation 20:25:16 in* a bit 20:25:26 Let's assume that the foundation preserves the existing PPB structure 20:25:28 ttx: sure. I think it'll ramp up as the foundation moves forward. If it isn't, then there isn't much to meet on. 20:25:51 I think it's reasonable for us to ask jbryce to cancel with advanced notice, not just at the last minute. 20:25:57 pvo: maybe we should mandate that the PPB meeting is confirmed on the poc list at least one day before 20:26:02 ttx ++ 20:26:07 ++ 20:26:14 ewanmellor: yes! 20:26:16 that sounds reasonable +1 20:26:22 because showing up to see it cancelled is not exactly fun on this side of the Atlantic 20:26:40 I would almost assume cancelled unless an agenda is sent out the day before 20:26:55 +1 20:26:59 I guess that is the same as what you said, ttx. 20:27:18 yes. Must be confirmed at least before Monday 2000 UTC 20:27:33 +1 20:27:46 We could also say "confirmed on Monday" but that's a bit unclear. 20:28:41 #info PPB meetings should happen only if agenda is confirmed on the -poc list at least one day before the meeting (Monday, 2000 UTC) 20:29:17 ok, anything else ? 20:29:33 Any activity, news on openstack-common? 20:29:43 Will iot be a project? Who drives it? 20:29:46 it 20:30:12 zns: that's been answered a few times 20:30:17 and voted on by the ppb 20:30:36 I think we said "yes, with collegial PTL leadership" 20:30:59 So we (PTLs) drive it? OK. Thanks. 20:31:16 yes. I need to move it in to gerrit, actually... sorry, I thought I'd done that part already. darned holidays. 20:31:50 anything else before we close ? 20:32:11 mtaylor: that would be good. The code needs cobwebs removed from it and moving it to Gerrit 'feels' like a good revival step. 20:32:37 yeah. it also makes it a little more stable for other projects to actually depend on 20:33:11 ok then 20:33:15 #endmeeting