21:02:32 #startmeeting 21:02:33 Meeting started Tue Apr 3 21:02:32 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:02:38 Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:02:51 Last meeting before Essex release, so we'll be focusing on release candidate status for each project 21:03:03 ttx: yes 21:03:09 #info Plan is to have the last RC2s today, and spend the remaining time until release working on Release Notes and handling showstoppers. 21:03:19 #topic Keystone status 21:03:25 heckj: o/ 21:03:35 RC2 is still pending 21:03:48 We need it out today, otherwise it won't see sufficient regression testing. 21:03:52 definitely 21:03:56 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc2 21:04:03 It's complete, waiting for 971592 to reach milestone-proposed 21:04:13 heckj: So that leaves us with a decision on the 3 bugs left on the "potential" list 21:04:22 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential 21:04:31 We'll defer them given they haven't landed in master yet 21:04:33 heckj: Do we agree that none of them should block release ? 21:05:07 We believe they're mostly nice to haves. The possible exception is 959294 21:05:11 heckj: We won't do an RC3 over them, right ? 21:05:36 https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/959294 is about not being able to delete users with the SQL backend - missed in earlier testing 21:05:37 Launchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,In progress] 21:06:03 review is up, but not through jenkins to get it included. 21:06:15 I'd like to have that in the release 21:06:17 heckj: i think we can get that merged into master within the hour 21:06:18 heckj: is review approved ? 21:06:28 couldnt you beat jenkins into submission? 21:06:34 heh 21:06:34 ok, let's move it to the RC2 list then 21:06:35 its definitely a blocker for anyone using a database that cares for FKs, IMHO 21:07:06 heckj: and let's drop the other two. 21:07:13 kk 21:07:37 adam_g - I'll be online for the next hour to help approve 21:08:05 added 21:08:09 thanks 21:08:37 heckj: the last two could be included, in case we ahve to reroll an RC3 tomorrow because a kitten got killed by Keystone RC2 overnight 21:08:45 but very unlikely 21:08:56 keystone killing kittens? Bad business, that 21:09:11 I heard cloudstack does not kill kitten. 21:09:21 heckj: anything else ? 21:09:24 the get apache to do it? 21:09:27 not from me 21:09:52 ok, we are close :) 21:09:57 Questions about Keystone ? 21:10:33 #topic Swift status 21:10:42 notmyname: o/ 21:10:42 yay swift 21:10:51 Still planning to use 1.4.8 as Essex 21:11:08 notmyname: Anything you wanted to mention ? 21:11:14 indeed. we've landed some patches for the next release after essex, but 1.4.8 is still essex 21:11:44 nothing in the past week has changed wrt swift and essex from our side 21:12:02 notmyname: I saw good progress on the swift track content for the design summit 21:12:17 yes, we've got about 30 minutes or so unscheduled 21:12:33 notmyname: you might want to check the release notes contents 21:12:34 I'm looking forward to good discussions 21:12:36 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Essex 21:12:45 to make sure they match reality 21:12:50 ah yes 21:12:59 what's the deadline for that? 21:13:01 heckj: that's valid for you too ^ 21:13:20 ideally before Thursday, though we can make changes post-release to that document 21:13:37 ttx: thank you 21:13:54 it needs to be correct by tomorrow EOB. Not necessarily complete, but correct and looking sane :) 21:14:19 Questions on Swift ? 21:14:33 it looks mostly good for swift, but I'll check it more thoroughly later 21:15:01 #topic Glance status 21:15:06 jaypipes: yo 21:15:16 RC2 is out, RC3 is baking at: 21:15:21 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-rc3 21:15:42 jaypipes, bcwaldon: Looks ready to cut from my end 21:15:51 ttx: sounds like a plan 21:16:08 Unless someone has a last-minute blocker to suggest 21:16:32 ttx: not I 21:16:38 bcwaldon: will do immediately after the meeting 21:16:44 ttx: awesome, thank you 21:16:49 jaypipes, bcwaldon: you should use the remaining time polishing the release notes :) 21:16:55 ttx: as for folsom, I'm hard at work on python-glanceclient 21:17:12 #info Glance RC2 is out, RC3 is baking at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-rc3 21:17:13 ttx: I'll look into that with Jay later today 21:17:22 k, thx ttx 21:17:24 jaypipes, bcwaldon: Anything else ? 21:17:33 ttx: nope, not from me. 21:17:36 bcwaldon: ++! 21:17:41 Questions on Glance ? 21:17:47 heckj: :) 21:17:49 #info jaypipes, bcwaldon: you should use the remaining time polishing the release notes :) 21:18:17 I'll follow up with someone to figure out where I would do that 21:18:37 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Essex 21:18:40 #topic Nova status 21:18:44 bcwaldon: http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Essex 21:18:47 vishy: hey 21:18:55 heckj: thank you, sire 21:18:57 hi 21:19:14 RC2 is out. 6 bugs on the essex-rc-potential list: 21:19:19 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential 21:19:48 vishy: if we do a respin over some of those, we should complete it today 21:19:53 just noticed that one is already merged bug got reset by hudson? 21:19:59 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/968066 21:20:01 Launchpad bug 968066 in nova "Unable to create a snapshot if original image is not in Glance anymore" [Medium,In progress] 21:20:04 any idea why that would happen? 21:20:16 yes 21:20:25 nova looks up the original image to preserve disk/container formats 21:20:34 so if it gets a 404, it blows up 21:20:36 bcwaldon: I'm not wondering about the bug 21:20:39 maybe someone filed a review pointing to that bug 21:20:49 well fine 21:20:53 bcwaldon: i'm wondering why it went from fix-released back to in-progress 21:21:01 #info RC2 is out. 6 bugs on the essex-rc-potential list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential 21:21:16 i'm going to set it back to fix committed then 21:21:25 * released 21:21:31 https://review.openstack.org/#change,5950 21:21:36 https://review.openstack.org/#change,6094 21:21:46 ttx: we could back target it to rc-2 i guess 21:21:56 referencing bug 668066 21:21:57 Launchpad bug 668066 in rapid "not reading XD-cards on Ubuntu vers. 0.3.3" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668066 21:22:01 rrh 21:22:07 968066 21:22:57 just need review on https://review.openstack.org/#change,6189 21:23:07 and i will push the patches into milestone proposed and recut 21:23:42 vishy: the two reviews I just mentioned are the reason why the bug was reopen by Jenkins 21:24:08 if they should be ignored (and/or filed as another bug), maybe they should be abandoned to remove confusion 21:24:53 ttx: ah looks like it is just because of the name of his branch? 21:25:14 well, it claims to fix the bug too 21:25:20 https://review.openstack.org/#change,5950 21:25:33 * ttx opens RC3 while you look into the fix 21:26:04 ttx: ah i see that now 21:26:17 ttx: so there were multiple patches and we only got the first one 21:26:31 maybe. It's missing comments 21:26:45 but if yes, we may want them in as well 21:27:07 ok i will skip this one: https://review.openstack.org/#change,6094 21:27:13 but 5950 seems fine 21:27:32 maybe abandon 6094 and ask to file a separate bug for clarity 21:29:01 agreed 21:29:14 although that one doesn't actually reference the bug in the message 21:30:10 vishy: does that look complete: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-rc3 21:30:26 maybe I should add 968066 21:30:37 if you backport 5950 21:30:48 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/972583? 21:30:48 yes add it 21:30:49 Launchpad bug 972583 in nova "network_get_all_by_uuids fails when requesting a network as admin" [Low,In progress] 21:30:52 just propped the backport 21:32:12 vishy: you want 972583 ? 21:32:23 i think target them all 21:32:29 i removed all the ones i don't want in 21:33:00 ok 21:33:10 https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-rc3 should be alright 21:33:38 vishy: so your mission, if you accept it, is to get all of these in milestone-proposed before the end of the day 21:33:47 so that I can cut Nova RC3 first thing tomorrow morning 21:33:49 ttx: on it 21:33:57 vishy: Anything else ? 21:34:09 nope 21:34:14 Questions on Nova ? 21:34:46 #topic Horizon status 21:34:51 devcamcar: o/ 21:34:57 RC2 is pending. 21:35:01 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-rc2 21:35:10 howdy 21:35:19 so we are down to one last issue and then rc2 drops 21:35:23 two bugs still missing 21:35:26 john is well underway on that one 21:35:28 missing? 21:35:35 oh not in milestone-proposed? 21:35:38 from milestone-proposed :) 21:35:42 right 21:35:50 was the 971937 one backported yet ? 21:36:04 no. just now merged to master 21:36:05 no that just landed in master a few moments ago 21:36:12 ok, I'm on it 21:36:15 * ttx is on fire 21:36:17 so i am feeling good about where we are at this point 21:36:44 we will drop rc2 today and barring any unforeseeable craziness this should be essex final 21:37:01 devcamcar - look out, horizon will be killing kittens soon too... 21:37:14 pushed 21:37:19 #info so i am feeling good about where we are at this point, we will drop rc2 today and barring any unforeseeable craziness this should be essex final 21:37:29 heh 21:37:45 devcamcar: you will have to backport the last one 21:37:49 np 21:37:56 devcamcar: since I'll probably be sleeping when it lands on master 21:38:32 https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-rc2 should look at the end of the day all FixReleased 21:38:41 and I'll pick it up tomorrow morning and publish 21:38:42 roger 21:39:01 devcamcar: Anything else ? 21:39:06 nope! 21:39:11 Questions for Horizon ? 21:39:54 #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports 21:39:55 I don't know if there's a section for Horizon in the release notes but it definitely needs attention there 21:40:06 annegentle: agreed 21:40:17 annegentle: if there isn't, there should be 21:40:34 devcamcar: I'll start the section but would like help with the messages 21:40:42 doing release notes is a good exercise while waiting for eventual kittens to get killed 21:41:00 unless devcamcar objects, I'll work on that 21:41:00 what's with all the kitten refs today? ;-) 21:41:08 annegentle: that would be fantastic 21:41:23 gabrielhurley: no objections 21:41:25 lloydde: regressions on release day -1 are called kitten killers 21:41:35 * lloydde learnered 21:41:36 danwent: yo 21:41:46 hi 21:41:56 quantum essex rc2 went out today: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc2 21:41:56 Quantum had an RC2 published today! 21:42:06 danwent: Unless I hear about you, I should use RC2 as the release on Thursday ? 21:42:12 #info quantum essex rc2 went out today: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc2 21:42:17 battles are mostly now with docs, and with sorting threw issues with distro-specific packaging 21:42:22 ttx: yes, sir 21:42:26 awesome 21:42:36 threw->through… i'm tired :) 21:42:37 danwent: anything else ? 21:42:39 nope 21:43:07 danwent: talking to jeblair about CI on the doc build jobs that'll get your docs from /incubation to /trunk after Essex goes out 21:43:07 starting Friday I do 72 hours sleep 21:43:19 troytoman: around ? 21:43:55 annegentle: thanks. we'll definitely need a way to have a frozen version of essex docs available on the web, while drastically changing the docs as the code moves in Folsom 21:44:20 troytoman, jkoelker: same for you guys, unless I hear otherwise, I will use Melange RC2 as the release 21:44:24 danwent: ok. 21:44:40 annegentle: your turn :) 21:45:03 annegentle: apart from the release notes, how bad do we look from a doc perspective ? 21:45:31 ttx: plenty of missing content around config options, but tasked in doc bugs. 21:45:42 I do like the forward movement on extension docs I'm seeing today 21:45:51 annegentle: so you continue work after release ? 21:45:52 I just want to work the plan on config docs 21:45:56 we have to. 21:46:06 I've become accepting of this in the last week :) 21:46:19 heh 21:46:32 doc bugs are still coming in 21:46:51 last release I didn't stop working on the "prior" release for a while 21:46:55 annegentle: it's a bit of an artifact of releasing every 6 months 21:47:04 #info documentation has plenty of missing content around config options, but tasked in doc bugs. Work will continue after release. 21:47:06 ttx: agreed, seems like it 21:47:15 annegentle: people don't really use non-releases, and devs don't read docs 21:47:34 doc comments will open on docs.openstack.org/essex after Thursday, to encourage feedback loops 21:47:35 annegentle: so you get the bugs only when real people start using stuff, and it's too late to fix 21:47:40 ttx: 'zactly 21:47:46 annegentle: working on fixing that 21:47:57 annegentle: anything else ? 21:48:10 really, I feel we're in great shape because the release will be documentable, you know? 21:48:38 #info release is fully "documentable" meaning everything works and doc writers can get an environment that they write to 21:48:50 any questions on docs? 21:48:59 Any other team lead with a status report ? 21:49:37 #topic Open discussion 21:49:54 #info Most track leads started to review their track contents, so if you want to propose a session, you should do so ASAP 21:49:59 #link http://summit.openstack.org 21:50:13 ttx: when will summit schedules be generally available for people to view? 21:50:32 heckj: when we (track leads) start scheduling 21:50:42 * heckj tried to send some links, only to be told they weren't authorized for others to see 21:50:45 k 21:51:02 The track layout should be official now 21:51:14 ttx, is there a chance to put the agenda of the summit together with http://www.openstack.org/conference/san-francisco-2012/sessions/ ? 21:51:38 reed: I guess so, you can certainly embed both ? 21:52:01 work in progress is here: http://folsomdesignsummit2012.sched.org/ 21:52:05 ttx, I can't, Todd is the master of the .org universe and I imagine he'll be busy with 100M other things 21:52:43 reed: in the mean time, we can extend the oen on openstack.org with the track layout 21:52:48 one* 21:53:02 so that people know when, for example, the Swift sessions will be scheduled 21:53:13 even if they don't have the full detail of content 21:53:13 I see ... 21:53:31 reed: will talk to you offline 21:53:36 ok 21:53:41 Anything else, anyone ? 21:54:00 there is a question about java SDK 21:54:09 but probably that's mostly for PPB, right? 21:55:55 ew 21:56:00 probably 21:56:06 depends on the question 21:56:32 ttx, it was on the mailing list... 21:56:58 the guy is asking for permission to package his java SDK as openstack.org 21:57:08 yeah, ppb question 21:57:14 never mind though... we can talk about this on the list 21:57:16 ok 21:57:18 #endmeeting