22:01:13 <danwent> #startmeeting
22:01:14 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Apr  3 22:01:13 2012 UTC.  The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:01:29 <danwent> #info  Agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings
22:02:11 <danwent> will hopefully be pretty quick, we have a lot to do before thursday :)
22:02:24 <danwent> #info essex rc2 is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc2
22:02:50 <danwent> there are no currently known issues with RC2, and barring any major issues, it will be the final release.
22:03:01 <carlp> woohoo
22:03:18 <danwent> phew… finally, someone said something.  I was beginning to wonder if I was talking to no one :)
22:03:46 <danwent> Ok, I just sent an email to the ML about some outstanding docs issues
22:03:53 <carlp> I'm always here for you, Dan :)
22:04:00 <danwent> :P
22:04:12 <danwent> ok, remaining docs tasks are:
22:04:24 <danwent> 1) create updated version of the 1.1 API spec
22:04:42 <danwent> 2) review admin guide for any changes since E-4 (should be fairly minor)
22:05:06 <danwent> 3) make sure use of Quantum with distro packaging is documented (as this is how most people will consume quantum)
22:05:20 <danwent> If you have cycles, please let me know so you can pitch in here.
22:05:32 <danwent> The other main area to help out is distro testing.
22:05:42 <danwent> Since all packaging for quantum is new, there are some rough edges.
22:06:18 <danwent> Fedora packaging has gotten a lot of love, so I suspect that is in pretty good shape, but we need more testing on it.
22:06:40 <cdub> *nod*  specifically, ucs plugin is basically untested
22:07:13 <cdub> and for ovs, we don't have real tunnelling support, so no bother testing that
22:07:19 <danwent> cdub:  i'm upgrading my F16 kernel so I can hopefully test OVS plugin later today
22:07:43 <cdub> danwent: great, we've done basic sanity testing on that and the bridge plugin.  not cisco, nvp or ryu
22:08:01 <danwent> but overall there has been a lot of work put into integrating quantum with fedora, much appreciated
22:08:22 <cdub> yeah, it's coming together pretty well (bug reports happily accepted of course ;)
22:08:46 <danwent> On Ubuntu, last night we got to the point where the quantum client could talk to the quantum server using the fakeplugin
22:09:10 <danwent> but there seem to be issues with the agents not being packaged as binaries.
22:09:24 <danwent> the underlying python classes are there, but there are no binaries, and no init scripts.
22:09:33 <cdub> hmm, perhaps fallout from the setup.py changes
22:09:37 <danwent> I'm working with Dave from canonical on this.
22:10:09 <danwent> but the summary is, both platforms could use a lot more eyeballs, since a lot of this packaging is brand new
22:10:39 <danwent> remember that if people can't use quantum with the main distros, people will conclude that the underlying software doesn't work, so testing distro integration is important.
22:10:57 <danwent> any other distros that we should be looking at testing on?  I believe there are debian packages, but I don't have any details on that.
22:11:03 <bhall> should we be testing ubuntu packaging with 11.10 or 12.04?
22:11:03 <debo-os> I can help with ubuntu
22:11:12 <danwent> great
22:11:15 <danwent> 12.04
22:11:18 <bhall> ok
22:11:28 <danwent> see the email I sent to the ML with the basic descriptions of the packages
22:12:03 <danwent> I believe just doing apt-get install quantum-server will install the client and all other dependencies.
22:12:38 <danwent> I'll shift my discussion of remaining packaging issues onlist, so we can avoid any duplicate troubleshooting/error reporting
22:12:49 <danwent> anything else on distro testing?
22:13:09 <danwent> realistically, we have ONE MORE DAY before the release, so we really need to focus efforts
22:13:42 <danwent> #info devstack + quantum is still broken due to config change, please review: https://review.openstack.org/#change,6178
22:13:59 <danwent> I don't really like this patch, but its a simple work around that doesn't require reverting the old patch.
22:14:10 <danwent> if someone else from the quantum team could review it, I'd appreciate it.
22:14:23 <bhall> I took a look at it earler.. I'll +1 it
22:14:24 <danwent> then I can hopefully corner some devstack people to approvide it.
22:14:32 <danwent> approve
22:14:52 <danwent> man, I REALLY need to sleep more :)
22:15:19 <cdub> don't misunderestimate sleep deprecation
22:15:21 <danwent> debo-os: update on the devstack excercise script?  plan is that devstack folks will merge after essex branches?
22:15:27 <debo-os> yes
22:15:38 <danwent> cdub: i unfortunately have deprecated sleep
22:15:40 <debo-os> waiting for the merge ...
22:15:53 <bhall> danwent: you just need to start drinking coffee.. :)
22:16:07 <danwent> bhall: i'll never give in
22:16:11 <cdub> danwent: in favor of sleepv2 i hope ;)
22:16:16 <danwent> :)
22:16:18 <bhall> first one is free buddy
22:16:19 <carlp> never! non coffee drinkers untie!
22:16:32 <danwent> untie?  or unite?
22:16:37 <carlp> yes
22:16:41 <salv-orlando> carlp needs coffee as well
22:16:45 <danwent> ok, last topic, summit
22:16:59 <danwent> #info hopefully everyone has seen the etherpad by now: http://etherpad.openstack.org/quantum-folsom
22:17:21 <danwent> I sent an email to the ML yesterday proposing some definition to help frame the many discussion topics related to "L3".
22:17:47 <danwent> so hopefully "L3" can be banned as a phrase in our discussion in favor of more concrete terms.
22:17:54 <danwent> please provide feedback via email or etherpad.
22:18:13 <danwent> I'm starting to send emails to people signed up as drivers for the key topics, asking them to register summit sessions.
22:18:27 <carlp> will do, I'm hoping to have a proposal tomorrow afternoon to the list
22:18:40 <danwent> I'll probably send an email out tomorrow about critical areas where we have yet been able to trick (er, i mean convince) someone into running the sssion.
22:19:00 <danwent> carlp: new topic, or just opinions on an existing topic?
22:19:02 <cdub> danwent: i expect we'll have ours in w/in the next day
22:19:19 <carlp> opinions on the existing topic
22:19:23 <danwent> ok, any new topics, we definitely want to get those proposed ASAP.
22:19:48 <danwent> opinions on existing topics can continue to flow in between now and summit
22:20:05 <cdub> new meaning not currently on etherpad?
22:20:18 <danwent> but remember, please don't let summit stuff distract you from the release work…. there will be plent of time to do stuff after the release
22:20:22 <danwent> cdub: yes
22:20:48 <cdub> danwent: ok, thanks
22:21:13 <danwent> #topic open discussion
22:21:21 <danwent> anything?
22:21:36 <danwent> please think about how you can pitch in and help with testing + docs.
22:21:54 <carlp> I'll see what I can do, I'm somwhat swamped with work ATM
22:22:14 <carlp> I hate it when all the deadlines start converging
22:22:14 <danwent> carlp: yup :)
22:22:20 <aabes> quick q: there are some topics on the list for sessions that almost cover it, but nothing specific for nova network parity.
22:23:04 <danwent> aabes: there won't be a specific session on it, but many of the sessions combine to approach that goal.  is there a specific topic you see as missing?
22:24:24 <danwent> ok, well aabes, feel free to sync with me offline.   I'll call the meeting to a close so everyone else can take off :)
22:24:27 <danwent> #endmeeting