21:00:44 #startmeeting 21:00:45 Meeting started Tue Apr 10 21:00:44 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:52 Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:00:53 ttx: o/ 21:00:59 o/ 21:01:06 #info We will (ab)use the meeting to discuss Design Summit content 21:01:21 #info But first do a quick roundtable on Essex post-release status, for those projects that released last Thursday 21:01:28 #topic 2012.1 post-release status 21:01:40 heckj: How is Essex Keystone looking, a few days after the storm ? 21:01:49 Pretty darn good! 21:02:02 No bug needing an urgent backport ? 21:02:03 ttx: o/ 21:02:11 We have a couple new bugs-that-are-really-feature requests in now 21:02:22 heckj: cool 21:02:26 bcwaldon: Glance still looks good ? 21:02:35 ttx: hardcore 21:02:36 Nothing that's killing us. One that is currently incomplete that we'll triage on, but initial reports are all pretty good 21:02:52 vishy: How is Nova Essex looking, now that a few days have passed ? 21:03:01 ttx: pretty good. 21:03:10 there have been some backports already 21:03:27 a few of the extensions were discovered to be broken when we started writing docs 21:03:29 :| 21:03:40 There are 6 bugs nominated for Essex backport already: 21:03:43 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/essex 21:03:51 and canonical has a couple of issues with migrations and deprecated auth 21:04:10 vishy, any thoughts on how soon you'd like use to do 2012.1.1 for nova ? 21:04:29 markmc: no unsure 21:04:34 vishy: would be good to docuemnt broken extensions in the release notes, if not done already 21:04:36 markmc: i would give it a few weeks though 21:04:40 vishy, ok, cool 21:04:48 ttx: unfortunately 21:04:55 ttx: gerrit is not updating properly 21:05:04 ttx: the essex targetted bugs 21:05:12 for example the first one has been merged already 21:05:27 oh. I'll have to look into it. I wrote that trigger. 21:06:10 #action ttx to look at the stable/essex bugclosing trigger logic (see bug 974293) 21:06:11 Launchpad bug 974293 in nova/essex "Instances directory gets deleted during unit test suite run" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974293 21:06:34 vishy: anything else that need our urgent attention ? 21:06:41 i don't think so 21:06:47 devcamcar: is horizon still clear ? 21:06:59 (cue laughter) 21:07:36 Everyone: any remark on the release process ? Things we should fix next time ? 21:07:47 ha 21:07:49 yes things are looking great 21:07:58 vishy: how can we know which extensions are borked? 21:07:58 if horizon does end up making a 2012.1.1 I'd nominate bug 973836 for backport, but it's not serious enough to trigger one on its own by any means. 21:07:58 Launchpad bug 973836 in horizon "ImportError handling in override mechanism is broken" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973836 21:08:16 we have couple of minor items that we are considering for back port 21:08:30 gabrielhurley: fix should be backported to stable/essex in all cases 21:08:39 ttx: k 21:08:44 I'm using the tag essex-backport-potential for triage 21:09:03 the 2012.1.1 drop is more a matter of saying "you should really not be using the release tarball anymore" 21:09:07 annegentle: there are two so far os-hosts and os-networks 21:09:13 we can backport the fixes 21:09:17 all in all the feedback has been positive 21:09:26 annegentle: but they are broken in the official essex release 21:09:42 vishy: ok, I'll update the release notes 21:09:50 annegentle: thanks 21:10:04 Anything else before we move to design summit tracks ? 21:10:31 #action annegentle to update release notes to account for broken extensions 21:10:53 vishy: those are extensions that are not tested by any of our tests ? 21:11:51 ttx: they are not tested by any integration tests 21:12:03 ttx: the fakes work fine :| 21:12:41 jaypipes: ^ sounds like an area where we'd like converage :/ 21:13:03 ok, let's switch to design summit now 21:13:08 #topic Design summit tracks content 21:13:20 Are you all OK to close the session proposals now ? 21:13:29 ttx: horizon is looking good 21:13:31 Late proposals should just get an unconference slot. There will be plenty available. 21:13:37 ttx: Yes, I believe so for Volume 21:13:43 ttx: I noticed one hole in the nova props 21:13:54 vishy: which ? 21:14:12 ttx: it recently got mentioned on the list 21:14:21 ttx: metadata, we have two related sessions 21:14:52 ttx: but we don't have one specifically covering metadata communication channel 21:15:19 vishy: if you need a new one filed, could you do it in the next 5 min ? 21:15:24 ttx: perhaps we can squeeze it into the config drive session and extend 21:15:32 ttx: keystone is already full to the top 21:15:46 we'll discuss it when we arrive in Nova sessions 21:16:03 #topic Common development track 21:16:09 Track is complete. I could easily have filled twice the time though... 21:16:20 I expect quite a few of those discussions to trigger unconference follow-ups. 21:16:25 #topic Swift track 21:16:29 notmyname: yo 21:16:36 Track looks good to me. 21:16:38 it's filled, but as yet unscheduled 21:16:52 notmyname: do you want me to handle initial scheduling ? 21:17:22 yes 21:17:29 h wait 21:17:30 no 21:17:36 I want to do the initial schedulng 21:17:36 ok :) 21:17:54 ok, just ping me if my superb UI is confusing 21:17:57 ttx: happy to do initial scheduling, but need some "how do you do it…" instructions 21:17:59 heh, ok 21:18:08 you can tell why I didn't contribute to Horizon yet 21:18:29 #action ttx to send instructions on scheduling 21:18:31 #topic Deployment/Ops track 21:18:38 same here :-) 21:18:39 there's a 'Scheduling' button on the track 21:18:43 that's as far as I've gotten 21:18:43 :) 21:18:44 notmyname: I think you are almost good 21:18:45 we've got one session that needs fixing 21:18:55 but the time is allocated 21:19:05 you also need to adjust time to make it schedulable 21:19:08 yes 21:19:29 at least one session will need to be cut to allow it to fit into the scheduling constraints 21:19:40 probably http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/edit/149 21:19:45 I take it you'll do the initial scheduling for that track as well ? 21:19:50 err http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/149 21:20:04 wait, that's already 25 minutes 21:20:29 perhaps the packaging one http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/26 21:20:33 justinsb_: ^ 21:20:52 notmyname: yes, you can place it just before the break to allow easy overflow 21:21:14 #topic Nova core track 21:21:19 vishy: yo 21:21:38 i think that none is gtg 21:21:42 * one 21:21:54 vishy: isn't that the one that needs a slot for metadata ? 21:22:15 I'm thinking we can squeeze it into existing discussions 21:22:30 ok 21:22:33 #topic Nova other track 21:22:45 vishy: Mostly done too... I'd suggest: 21:22:57 we have config drive and guest networking, we can cover it in those 21:23:19 the last one was recently added, it does seem useful but something has to go down to 25 min 21:23:30 thoughts on which one we could shorten? 21:23:44 you need to get rid of 3 25-min equivalents 21:24:16 I'd push "Enhancing OpenStack for Federated OpenStack" to Ecosystem track 21:25:08 i think it got pushed from the ecosystem track 21:25:13 Heh :) 21:25:18 magic ! 21:25:43 vishy: push it back, if Lloyd can't have it, that will be unconference 21:25:59 actually it might have gotten pushed from common 21:26:02 cool done 21:26:17 it was eco 21:26:19 so i guess i will accept guest agents and shorten it 21:26:34 sounds good 21:26:40 vishy: do you want me to handle initial scheduling ? If yes, any constraint ? 21:27:06 yes i will make a first pass 21:27:21 there are a few sessions from other tracks that i want to attend so i might have to coordinate 21:27:41 there will be adjustments once the initial schedule is posted 21:27:51 ttx: had a little flaw with getting schedules to line up with slots and times - sent you mail, we can resolve offline 21:28:08 #topic Nova hypervisors track 21:28:11 soren: hey 21:28:14 o/ 21:28:36 Apart from a bare metal session that needs a bit of coordination, we're in good shape. 21:28:39 soren: I pushed three baremetal talks to that track 21:28:48 There were three sessions on that topic. 21:28:49 soren: ah ok you saww that :) 21:28:58 I talked to the proposers to try to get them to agree. 21:29:10 ...so that we'll only do one session. 21:29:17 you still have one more slot proposed than you can accomodate 21:29:30 I guess I'll need to approve one of them now, so that you can lock things down? 21:29:44 I will only lock new proposals 21:29:55 Ah, cool. 21:30:02 Hmm... 21:30:07 * soren takes a look at the list 21:30:13 soren: you should deny your waitlist one, probably 21:30:19 Yeah. 21:30:31 will let you do it. 21:30:40 Oh, right, it should be. 21:30:45 soren: want me to handle initial scheduling ? If yes, any constraint ? 21:31:31 That would be awesome. 21:31:37 No constraints that I know of. 21:31:52 cool 21:32:03 #topic Nova scaling track 21:32:07 comstud: o/ 21:32:09 o/ 21:32:20 looking good I think 21:32:25 i see you accepted my last one.. so 21:32:27 i think we're good 21:32:28 comstud: do you want me to handle initial scheduling ? If yes, any constraint ? 21:32:41 I can take care of it.. I have a partial order in mind 21:32:45 ok 21:32:51 #topic Nova volumes track 21:32:58 jgriffith: o/ 21:33:02 Mine's pretty easy... 21:33:13 Only one I was waiting on was Renuka... 21:33:31 Don't think I'm going to hear anything back so I'll probably just reject hers and use a new one for same topic 21:33:32 jgriffith: you should reject his and accept yours ? 21:33:42 ok 21:33:42 ttx: :) 21:33:48 Yep, I'll do that now 21:33:49 please do. 21:34:03 jgriffith: want me to handle initial scheduling ? If yes, any constraint ? 21:34:48 If there is time left at the end of the meeting, I'll do a quick explanation on the scheduler 21:34:54 ttx: Sure, no constraint assuming they still all fall on first day. With all the other topics regarding seperation of nova componenents there might be something 21:35:11 that would make more sense but shouldn't matter too much 21:35:24 #topic Keystone track 21:35:28 heckj: looks complete to me ? 21:35:59 you tried scheduling already, so that's covered 21:36:07 ttx: it is, but I can't shift the 30 minute item to the top slot, need your assistance to make it work 21:36:31 ttx: sent email, figured we solve it offline 21:36:37 heckj: just clear the field where the 101 is 21:36:43 click modify 21:36:49 that should clear the slot 21:36:50 try it yourself - didn't work. Explained in email 21:37:09 If you want me to take the time, I can explain here 21:37:21 nah, will solve offline 21:37:27 #topic Glance track 21:37:31 bcwaldon: o/ 21:37:56 hello 21:38:00 You're slightly over-subscribed at this point. Maybe: 21:38:04 API extensions: the good, the bad, and the ugly -> Ecosystem ? 21:38:17 It could live several places 21:38:25 I'm fine moving it away from glance 21:39:04 there is no room anywhere... 21:39:23 ha, well then we'll just have to deal with it :) 21:39:35 just move it to Ecosystem, the sessions that Lloyd will reject will end up in Unconference slots 21:39:49 ttx: ok 21:40:39 bcwaldon: will you have time to do initial scheduling yourself ? 21:40:48 ttx: yes sir 21:40:51 cool 21:41:14 Pro tip: if you have a 25-min session that is likely to be too short for a topic, place it just before a coffee break. 21:41:20 #topic Quantum/Networking track 21:41:23 danwent: yo 21:41:26 hi 21:41:34 so i took a first crack at a schedule 21:42:00 looks complete now 21:42:04 main interaction with another track is that Horizon track has a session on Quantum integration that we don't want to conflict with 21:42:06 yup 21:42:22 we can fix it if we get no luck 21:42:28 #topic Horizon track 21:42:52 devcamcar: looks good ? 21:43:16 devcamcar: let me know if you want me to do the initial scheduling for you. 21:43:42 ttx: we perfectly filled our allotted time so i'm happy with where we ended up 21:43:49 if you could take a first pass at it that would be fantastic 21:43:58 devcamcar: noted 21:44:09 #topic Documentation track 21:44:12 hey 21:44:31 so I am full up, but need one 55 minute slot 21:44:32 looks good too 21:45:03 er. That probably doesn't sound good. What I mean is, the "scheduling" isn't letting me assign 2 slots to one proposal 21:45:28 ttx: if you can double-check me and push to Sched that would be great 21:46:20 annegentle: oh, that's because your 55min session is all over the break 21:46:47 will ping you after 21:46:55 #topic QA track 21:46:55 ttx: ok, sounds good, or tomorrow's fine too 21:46:59 jaypipes: hey 21:47:29 jaypipes: Looks like you should move "Nova API external testing" to Ecosystem track ? 21:47:49 Then your track looks good to me. 21:47:55 is jaypipes around ? 21:48:30 hmm, I'mm move it for him then 21:48:32 I'll* 21:48:46 ttrifonov: yep 21:48:52 almost 21:48:57 oh, crap, another user beginnng with tt :( 21:49:12 jaypipes: should I move it for you ? 21:49:12 ttx: yes, that would be good, thanks. 21:49:15 ok 21:49:42 #topic Ecosystem track 21:49:46 lloydde: o/ 21:49:54 |o 21:49:58 OK, you should not have more crap landing on your track anymore :) 21:50:05 So with all the other pushing stuff to your track it's quite oversubscribed now 21:50:14 fantastic, 1st thing tomorrow rinse and repeat 21:50:16 You will have to refuse a number of them and push them to the Unconference room instead. 21:50:24 note that I've a bit of good news though 21:50:32 and put a page on the wiki for ppl putting hat in early for unconf 21:50:38 I suggest we use Bayview B (120) instead of Golden Gate (50) for the track 21:50:47 and use Golden gate for unconference 21:50:57 does that make sense ? 21:51:09 that sounds like a good idea, as 120 for unconf might be intimidating 21:51:13 i suspect the scheduled Ecosystem track will attract more people 21:51:18 ttx: sounds great 21:51:33 We also have the option to use the ballroom for selected Ecosystem talks 21:51:47 if teher is anything that really stands out... 21:51:49 saving the ballroom for you 21:51:49 there* 21:51:59 ^_~ 21:52:00 lloydde: Error: "_~" is not a valid command. 21:52:10 ^_~ 21:52:20 annegentle, lloydde: do you think you could have some use for it ? 21:52:33 nothing stands out to me, you annegentle? 21:52:38 or better have them all in Bayview B (simpler) 21:52:50 ttx: I was wondering if some deployment topics would be large enough for the ballroom 21:53:27 ttx: I guess, the sooner we push to sched.org, the sooner we know where overflow is? 21:53:29 I'll let you look into it. As far as scheduling goes, the ballroom is manual 21:54:21 annegentle: see at the bottom of http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/trackstatus 21:54:54 ttx: ok, nice graphs 21:55:03 Unless there is something that really stands out, staying in Bayview B will be simpler 21:55:24 ttx: I'm all for simple 21:55:34 ack 21:55:57 lloydde, annegentle: anything else ? 21:56:19 nope, I'll be frantic for your and annegentle assistance by tomorrow midday ;-) 21:56:27 :) nope 21:56:38 We all delegated the hard task of saying no to you -- make sure that people you reject know they can get unconference slots 21:56:51 you could even pre-book them 21:57:13 yes, plan to have them filled out before date 21:57:25 cool 21:57:28 meaning their proposal sticky gets prepopulated 21:57:41 #topic Open discussion 21:57:46 Anything else, anyone ? 21:59:03 I guess not. Looks like we got great content. A few days left to nail the schedule. 21:59:04 Cheers 21:59:13 woot 21:59:21 yup, thanks for the new tool. quite slick. 21:59:26 #endmeeting