17:00:39 <jaypipes> #startmeeting
17:00:40 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Apr 12 17:00:39 2012 UTC.  The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:00:49 <jaypipes> morning all.
17:00:53 <jaypipes> or afternoon. :)
17:00:56 <davidkranz_> Hi there.
17:01:01 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: heya
17:02:24 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: been kinda swamped this week and haven't been able to get the tempest devstack gate job completed. did debug it and make progress, but still need someone to push through some devstack and devstack-gate merge proposals. :(
17:03:17 <davidkranz_> I understand. Some times this environment can feel like molasses.
17:03:23 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: need to get the final fix in for https://review.openstack.org/#change,6301
17:03:34 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: indeed.
17:03:45 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: anything you want to discuss today?
17:03:55 <davidkranz_> Just one thing.
17:04:14 <davidkranz_> I think we should file a bug for any ERROR in the logs that does not represent an OpenStack bug or operator error or problem.
17:04:18 <davidkranz_> What do you think?
17:04:46 <jaypipes> +
17:04:51 <jaypipes> sorry, typo.
17:05:26 <jaypipes> yes, I definitely agree with that. as I've gotten more experience operating trystack and running devstack + tempest I would really appreciate little things like that!
17:06:05 <davidkranz_> OK, I will push on that at the devops sessions next week. We need the PTLs to buy in and establish conventions for the meaning of log files.
17:06:29 <davidkranz_> So they can be both human and machine readable as needed.
17:07:35 <davidkranz_> And we need a stable/essex tempest branch. There are already some differences needed.
17:07:52 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: ah, crap, yes... I will submit a ticket.
17:08:27 <davidkranz_> jaypipes: Perhaps all PTLs should have to operate trystack for a few days :)
17:08:33 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/980071
17:08:34 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 980071 in openstack-ci "Tempest needs stable/essex branch" [Undecided,New]
17:08:43 <davidkranz_> OK, great.
17:08:49 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: lol. I wouldn't wish that on the PTLs ;P
17:08:58 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: maybe once Essex is done for TryStack...
17:10:01 <davidkranz_> I don't have anything else right now.
17:11:43 <jaypipes> davidkranz_: alright, let's wrap it up then
17:11:46 <jaypipes> #endmeeting