18:05:14 #startmeeting 18:05:15 Meeting started Tue Apr 24 18:05:14 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:05:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:05:37 welcome back from the summit! 18:05:43 :) 18:05:46 #topic - future work 18:06:08 We had some great conversations at the summit, and most (but not all) are reflected in blueprints 18:06:49 With Folsom, I'm aiming to move any "need to do this" into blueprints (away from "bugs). So if you have elements you'd like to do, please add them in as blueprints over the next few days 18:07:20 what's the approval process for the bp? 18:08:11 Bug heckj? 18:08:13 jsavak: right now, create it as "new" and assign it to yourself. When we're agreed on method implementation, someone on the core team (me, termie, etc) will change the BP to approved 18:08:30 okie. 18:08:45 You *do not* need to wait for a BP to be approved to start work 18:09:08 submitting a code review is a perfectly acceptable (and actually quite effective) way to get an implementation conversation started. 18:09:21 The blueprint should ideally outline "success" criteria more than anything else. 18:11:08 ok, cool, thx 18:11:25 heckj, I am changing the role apis to add the service_id back in there 18:12:13 #topic: next api 18:12:47 role apis 18:12:49 related to gyee - with the feedback we gathered, I'll be working with termie to consolidate the API into a next revision and get that up as a document proposal over the next few weeks. 18:12:55 I've add the service_id back in there 18:12:57 added 18:13:22 will be looking forward to feedback from y'all on that document when we get it live 18:13:44 In the meantime, there's an open discussion on modeling the endpoints on the mailing list - please contribute to the conversation there. 18:14:04 heckj: etherpad or anything for api stuff? 18:14:11 heckj, you are proposing that we move service_type and region to attributes? 18:14:40 doplhm: I was going to follow Jay's pattern and make a google doc for feedback - easier to track (for me) on feedback than etherpad 18:15:22 gyee: I'm promising to get an API up for feedback - I'm looking for more conversation related to relevant attributes and how to think about them on the mailing list. 18:15:49 gyee: I'm not sure what "region" means to folks - so it's hard to assert anything concrete there 18:16:04 heckj: +1 18:16:07 gyee: and I'm not sure entirely which field you're referring to re: service_type 18:18:08 gyee: did that answer your question? 18:18:20 there's a service_type field in the endpoint templates right? 18:18:28 18:18:39 the one that contains "image", "compute" - yeah 18:19:02 so we are moving that one to attributes? I wasn't clear on that 18:19:30 gyee: I'm more asking what people think about representing the resources over trying to assert a specific proposal at this point. 18:20:03 gyee: I'm not 100% certain what we're modelling and what it's inteded to represent, so I'm asking for people (you, dolph, etc - anyone who cares) to assert opinions there 18:21:05 sure, I'll spend some time catching up on on the emails 18:21:13 gyee: cool, thank you 18:21:28 (the keystone stuff has been light - mostly it's been hyperactive discussions on metrics and billing data) 18:21:42 #topics issue and open questions 18:21:52 General discussion time - I didn't have anything else formal 18:22:10 I have some patchs that need review 18:22:45 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6447/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6448/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6425/ 18:23:28 I don't what's the better way to get attention to them 18:23:35 I don't know 18:23:40 you just did :-) 18:24:24 rafaduran: you can also request specific reviewers (heckj, termie, dolphm, bcwaldon, etc) when you go to the review page. It's a good way to "poke" someone to review your code 18:24:54 rafaduran: as i said in the reviews, this functionality is already covered by the core api spec, and your implementation doesn't match that 18:24:55 heckj: thx, I will do that way next time 18:25:08 rafaduran: those features were present pre-redux, and i'd be happy to see them return 18:25:15 rafaduran: but not under a whole new api 18:25:24 dolphm_:I've sent new patches 18:25:24 rafaduran: unless we're changing the *whole* api :) 18:25:34 i was going to post a question about preventing mitm attacks on keystone to the list =/ 18:25:44 i hope it does not get large 18:25:53 cloudfly: give it a shot - hard to tell :-) 18:26:03 rafaduran: ah, i'll take another look then - totally didn't notice 18:26:37 dolphm_: ok, thx for your attention 18:30:41 dolphm: My thought is to aiming for a fairly heavy revision, consolidating token more than really changing it, and bringing many of the extensions into core 18:31:03 and adding the CRUD elements with the expectation that backends may return "not implemented" as a valid response 18:31:07 heckj: i'm all for that, generally speaking 18:31:29 Other questions or issues? ideas? etc? 18:31:32 heckj: and i'm all for simplifying the service catalog 18:35:27 by simplifying you also mean maintaining backward compatibility as well right? 18:36:27 or at least have it under v3.0 18:36:43 open season for v3.0 :) 18:36:57 or we could skip to 4.0 18:37:08 or more appropriately, v4 18:40:03 gyee: maintaining backward compatibility will be keeping the same versioned API - my proposal will be to make a new versioned API for this next round 18:40:13 And being able to run both of them together 18:40:28 nice 18:42:19 Okay - I think that's it for today's meeting 18:42:25 #endmeeting