21:02:03 #startmeeting 21:02:04 Meeting started Tue May 1 21:02:03 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02:21 Welcome everyone to our weekly Project/release meeting 21:02:27 Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:02:34 Should be a quick one. We'll have a look at the current state of the Folsom plans. 21:02:47 #topic Keystone status 21:02:57 Let's start with heckj while the wifi works 21:03:02 maybe 21:03:06 Keystone meeting this morning nailed down most of the blueprints 21:03:13 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/folsom 21:03:26 We have a few undeteremined for who's going to do them, but most are assigned out at this point 21:03:32 service-endpoint-location is marked "obsolete", should we unset the series goal ? 21:03:40 or is it still very much a goal ? 21:03:53 unset - I'll get it 21:04:07 Also I don't really get what draft-v3-blueprint is about. A blueprint about drafting a blueprint ? 21:04:33 it's for drafting the next rev API 21:04:38 just typoed the name 21:04:48 heckj: you can change it 21:04:49 draft-v3-api? 21:05:06 heckj: so this will be a non-code blueprint, right ? 21:05:11 vishy: the url is a permalink though, i think 21:05:18 vishy: would love to - haven't figured out how 21:05:24 dolphm: nope just fixed it for you 21:05:32 the text in the blueprint is correct 21:05:38 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/draft-v3-api 21:05:40 magic! 21:05:46 awesome 21:05:48 thank you! 21:05:57 ooo 21:06:08 * cloudfly reads furiously 21:06:10 heckj, dolphm : ffr it is the 'Set the URL for this specification' link under the summary 21:06:19 heckj: so this will be a non-code blueprint, right ? 21:06:27 * vishy knows way too much about blueprints :( 21:06:45 ttx: correct. API document opened for feedback - much like what jaypipes/bcwaldon have done for Glance 21:06:55 heckj: ok 21:07:06 Do you expect more blueprints to be targeted to folsom-1, or is the map pretty much complete ? 21:07:58 for F1, we're complete - I expect some churn and change in F2/F3 though 21:08:04 very dependent on the V3 API core BP 21:08:09 sure, that's ok 21:08:13 heckj: anything else ? 21:08:17 nope 21:08:21 Questions about Keystone ? 21:08:42 #topic Swift status 21:08:47 notmyname: o/ 21:08:47 o/ 21:08:53 notmyname: Do you expect any major new feature in your next release ? 21:09:09 yes. object versioning has been added since essex 21:09:09 (something that would warrant a blueprint ?) 21:09:42 notmyname: could you create a blueprint retrospectively ? 21:09:51 ya, I can do that 21:09:59 Should the next Swift release be 1.4.10, 1.5... 21:10:12 Or do we need to discuss a bit more how we want to actually do it ? 21:10:31 I think it will probably 1.5 21:10:49 1.5.0 probably, then 21:10:55 but I don't have strong feeling either way 21:11:59 me neither... at least 1.5.0 makes the minor version number mean something (series mapping) 21:12:08 Any vague idea on the date, so that I start planning ? 21:12:20 I'll add the blueprints for other things that have happened as well 21:12:44 no, I don't have a date yet. I can work on that this week 21:13:08 doesn't have to be a precise date. More like an indication :) 21:13:12 notmyname: Anything else ? 21:13:19 nope 21:13:24 Questions on Swift ? 21:13:53 notmyname: I'll create the 1.5.0 milestone so that you can target your blueprints against it 21:13:57 ok 21:14:10 #topic Glance status 21:14:16 bcwaldon: yo 21:14:19 eyyyy 21:14:23 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/folsom 21:14:35 yeah... 21:14:37 I'm looking for feedback on a couple of emails I sent to the list, one about 'Glance Architecture' and one on 'Blueprints!'. 21:14:45 bcwaldon: glance-get-cmd is marked obsolete, should we unset the series goal for it ? 21:14:55 if I marked it Obsolete, then yes 21:15:02 on it 21:15:27 you should start targeting some of them to folsom-1 when they have someone signed up to do it 21:15:34 Yep, definitely will 21:15:46 Would separate-client be a folsom-1 target ? 21:15:47 I've got a couple that are superblueprints that wont be targeted for a while 21:16:14 ttx: definitely 21:16:29 (had to look up when f1 was) 21:16:29 ok, please set the folsom-1 targets before the end of the week 21:16:41 don't you boss me around 21:16:42 so that we can start tracking progress towards the milestone 21:16:43 but I will 21:17:02 bcwaldon: "no target" is a valid answer :P 21:17:14 Sounds good. I'm looking for assignees for several of those blueprints 21:17:29 So if anybody has been poking me about how to help with Glance inFolsom, go read my email 'Blueprints!' 21:17:43 bcwaldon: Anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:18:05 ttx: nope, I'm trying to release my thoughts directly to the ML so I don't forget anything around meeting time 21:18:15 so that's it for me :) 21:18:23 works for me :) 21:18:24 Questions on Glance ? 21:18:51 #topic Quantum status 21:18:57 danwent: hey 21:18:59 https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-1 21:19:01 hey 21:19:06 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/folsom is empty because you didn't set the series goal to Folsom on the blueprints 21:19:15 Setting the series goal lets you compile a list of "Folsom" blueprints which is generally more useful than the list of all blueprints, so I recommend doing it 21:19:19 ah, sorry, i've just been targeting things to milestones 21:19:31 Ok, will do that. 21:19:39 danwent: not a big deal, gives you those nice "Folsom" views 21:19:51 so far, I've flushed out folsom-1 and folsom-2 milestones 21:19:55 for some reason LP doesn't automatically build that 21:20:03 which is where we're targeting to get must of our "must haves" for Folsom release 21:20:10 I see 9 blueprints were targeted to folsom-1... 21:20:14 #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-1 21:20:38 You probably should set them to "Approved" and prioritize all of them if you're OK with them. 21:20:44 yup, many of them are fairly small, but two are very large (new API work to merge melange, and authz work) 21:21:17 ok, I was waiting on designs on some of them before approving. 21:21:28 I tend to check status on things that you set Essential/High 21:21:34 will make sure that we get designs and approval for next week. 21:21:38 so lowering prio is a good way to get rid of me 21:21:57 * oubiwann makes a note of that... 21:22:03 ok, i expect only two high/essential blueprints left after this week. 21:22:23 two other ones will be done 21:22:37 oubiwann: priority is an indication of how important the blueprint is for release. So it's not totally a joke :) 21:23:01 danwent: Anything else ? 21:23:04 nope 21:23:07 Questions on Quantum ? 21:23:25 #topic Nova status 21:23:35 vishy: hey 21:23:36 hi 21:23:40 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/folsom 21:23:47 so I've been doing massive blueprint triaging 21:23:48 Looks quite good. You're getting used to that game 21:23:53 had 180 blueprints 21:24:02 i think i'm only about halfway done 21:24:03 * oubiwann chokes 21:24:15 (actually 188) 21:24:37 so I've targetted all the ones i am familiar with, but there are still a few that I have no idea about 21:24:41 oubiwann: vishy tries to beat me a blueprint-handling LP karma. 21:24:46 at* 21:24:51 hehehe 21:24:59 ttx: i'm considering declaring blueprint bankruptcy 21:25:03 You should set the priority for all the undefined ones... 21:25:08 at least those who have a clear assignee that signed up to do the work 21:25:24 basically saying, if you own a blueprint and it isn't targetted for folsom, let me know because i'm going to delete all of the others in 2 weeks 21:25:33 ec2-id-compatibilty is targeted to folsom-1 and has no assignee ? 21:25:40 ttx: does that seem reasonable 21:25:49 ttx: there are a bunch with no assignee 21:26:06 ttx: I din't man to target a milestone though 21:26:11 * mean 21:26:13 vishy: by "deleting" you mean obsoleting ? 21:26:17 ttx: yes 21:26:34 vishy: oh, hellyes 21:26:40 there are just a whole bunch of random blueprints that are good ideas but have no one to work on them 21:27:01 and a bunch that are just old and I have no idea about 21:27:30 ttx: I haven't prioritized the ones in there yet so a lot are still undefined 21:27:42 vishy: burn them all to the ground and start again :-) Worked for me 21:27:42 ttx: i was going to do a prioritization after I got them all targetted to folsom 21:27:58 vishy: sounds good. Try to prioritize the folsom-1 by next week 21:28:14 ok i will do one more pass through all of them, then I will send out an email notifying about pending deletion 21:28:15 the rest is not that urgent 21:28:25 vishy: Anything else ? 21:29:17 nope 21:29:28 * vishy sharpens his email pen 21:29:33 it's possible some of the existing side projects satisfy blue prints 21:29:48 cloudfly: ? 21:29:58 admin-cli vs unified-cli for instance 21:30:19 cloudfly: possibly, I've been attempting to obsolete those 21:30:43 cloudfly: if you notice any that you feel should be obsoleted, feel free to let me know 21:30:49 cloudfly: I can use help 21:30:54 will do 21:31:14 actually that is true for anyone, if anyone notices blueprints that should be removed, let me know :) 21:31:25 Other questions on Nova ? 21:31:59 #topic Horizon status 21:32:04 devcamcar: o/ 21:32:12 o/ 21:32:33 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/folsom 21:32:35 Looks good... 21:32:44 most of whats there is only what we've targeted for folsom-1 21:32:57 devcamcar: there are two blueprints targeted to folsom-1 that don't have series goal = Folsom: 21:32:58 still have a lot of blueprints to add from the summit which hopefully i can get to this week 21:33:02 oops, which? 21:33:02 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/scaffolding 21:33:03 i'll fix 21:33:05 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/transition-to-lesscss 21:33:19 I was about to set them but thought you might want to confirm 21:33:50 (series targeting is limited to drivers, while milestone-targeting is open to everyone, so people may add stuff that you don't agree with 21:34:00 hm, they both say proposed for folsom 21:34:15 oh i see 21:34:15 nm 21:34:17 fixed :) 21:34:33 devcamcar: soon you'll become a Jedi master 21:34:35 but yes, F1 is looking good for us 21:34:36 ttx: hah 21:34:43 F2 and on are mostly undefined right now 21:35:14 i also have a list of tickets we'll be back porting to stable/essex 21:35:21 devcamcar: maybe we won't be adding features until the last second this release ;-) 21:35:32 https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=essex-backport-potential 21:35:43 mostly trivial fixes 21:35:53 devcamcar: you can use series targeting there too 21:36:00 ok 21:36:08 "Target to series" and select "Essex" 21:36:24 then it shows on https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/essex 21:36:29 ahh perfect 21:36:33 and we can track completion 21:36:48 i'll update those now as well 21:36:59 * ttx still needs to fix the bugstatus-updating gerrit hook so that it understands the series, but otherwise it's pretty functional 21:37:11 yep, i had marked a few as fix released by mistake 21:37:35 for some reason I thought that the weeks after the design summit would be pretty calm for me 21:37:46 devcamcar: Anything else ? 21:37:51 ttx: that is all! 21:37:58 Questions for Horizon ? 21:38:18 #topic Other Team reports 21:38:25 annegentle, jaypipes, mtaylor: ? 21:38:40 Or any other team lead with a status report ? 21:38:50 me! 21:38:58 hey, you made it :) 21:39:06 Working on a branch that switches all links to /essex for the docs. 21:39:09 yup just! 21:39:27 so I can release docs.openstack.org/essex today and open doc comments on all those pages 21:39:50 also going to eliminate the /bexar and /cactus "sites" by doing 301 redirects to /trunk 21:39:58 ok 21:40:10 then I'll get cracking on a blueprint or two. 21:40:47 annegentle: we should open a "folsom" series for openstack-manuals 21:41:03 annegentle: so that you can target your blueprints to the series, at least 21:41:15 that would be great. 21:41:28 willdo that for you 21:41:32 also you may have seen on the mailing list a post for an intern, needs to be a full time student and it is the Austin location of Rackspace. Approximately May to August. 21:42:45 saw that. Great opportunity :) 21:42:50 annegentle: anything else ? 21:42:59 also the docs site now has all nova.conf flags listed at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/compute-options-reference.html and another writer is working on a list of all swift flags 21:43:12 and _that_ is all for this week. 21:43:30 * oubiwann high-fives annegentle 21:43:52 #topic Open discussion 21:43:56 Anything else, anyone ? 21:44:48 are we still planning on trying a shorter folsom release cycle? 21:44:54 I'll be at UDS in Oakland next week, maybe speaking 21:45:05 jog0: the release cycle will be 6 months 21:45:37 so folsom-1 will not have an associated 2 week code freeze? 21:45:50 jog0: we /might/ consider late Folsom milestones as full releases, but it's pretty unlikely 21:45:59 no it won't 21:46:02 ttx: thanks 21:46:15 folsom-1 will be cut on the Tuesday and delivered on the Thursday. 21:46:20 May 22-24 21:47:12 ok then, if nobody has anything, we'll close early 21:47:43 #endmeeting