22:01:41 <danwent> #startmeeting 22:01:41 <rkukura> o/ 22:01:42 <openstack> Meeting started Tue May 22 22:01:41 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:01:43 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:01:43 <marktvoelker> o/ 22:01:44 * mtaylor wastes time 22:01:46 <garyk> hi 22:01:52 <danwent> mtaylor: damn you! 22:02:03 <salv-orlando> hi 22:02:08 <danwent> hi folks 22:02:14 <gongys> hi 22:02:17 <danwent> #link agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings 22:02:19 <danwent> hi gongys 22:02:24 <mestery> o/ 22:02:27 <SumitNaiksatam> Hi All! 22:02:31 <danwent> gongys: what time is it for you? 22:02:41 <gongys> 6:00 in the morning 22:02:50 <danwent> yikes… appreciate you making the meeting :) 22:03:00 <gongys> Yes. not easy. 22:03:04 <danwent> between you and garyk, maybe we should be consider a new time. 22:03:12 <danwent> its not easy for salv-orlando either 22:03:14 <garyk> +1 22:03:28 <danwent> ok, let's bring it up during open discussion 22:03:56 <danwent> #topic F-1 Release 22:04:20 <danwent> branchpoint will be tonight. anything other than important bug fixes should be in by tonight. 22:04:22 <danwent> https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-1 22:04:56 <danwent> any critical bug fixes found between now and release on thurs should be pushed to master, then send me a note and I can pull them to the milestone proposed branch 22:05:00 <danwent> jkoelker: here? 22:05:11 <danwent> _cerberus_: ? 22:05:29 <danwent> big update is that we're not going to try and push v2 API code in F-1 22:05:32 <_cerberus_> What's it worth to you? 22:05:57 <danwent> there's been a lots of good progress, but there's still some more work to be done, and I want to make sure folks have ample time to review 22:06:09 <danwent> _cerberus_: I think plan is to get a spec of sorts out quickly for feedback though? 22:06:22 <_cerberus_> Yes 22:06:29 <danwent> as many items in F-2 require people to start writing code against the v2 API 22:06:32 <SumitNaiksatam> is there a github repo that we call look at in the interim? 22:06:45 <danwent> SumitNaiksatam: yes 22:06:45 <SumitNaiksatam> for the v2 API that is 22:06:58 <danwent> jkoelker has a branch 22:07:00 <danwent> one sec 22:07:05 <danwent> I think its linked from BP 22:07:24 <danwent> yeah, at bottom of BP 22:07:27 <SumitNaiksatam> oh ok 22:07:28 <danwent> https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/tree/melange 22:07:32 <SumitNaiksatam> I did not notice it 22:07:34 <SumitNaiksatam> thanks! 22:07:41 <danwent> jkoelker is sly like that :P 22:08:12 <SumitNaiksatam> or I was lazy to scroll :-) 22:08:12 <garyk> silly question: is the nova code also being taken care of? this may also take time to get through 22:08:21 <gongys> is this one: https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/tree/melange 22:08:30 <danwent> garyk: which nova code? 22:08:35 <danwent> gongys: yup 22:08:43 <garyk> nova/network/... 22:09:14 <danwent> garyk: I guess i'm not sure what you mean by "being taken care of"… do you mean maintained? most of the quantum manager code will go away in Folsom 22:09:43 <danwent> tr3buchet has a BP in F-2 to rework nova code to work with new v2 API (and some other cool changes, like eliminating nova-network) 22:09:49 <danwent> at least when running with quantum 22:09:58 <garyk> ok, that makes sense 22:10:03 <jkoelker> https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/compare/openstack:master...melange that's the current diff with trunk so far 22:10:17 <jkoelker> i havn't merged trunk though in a few days, so it might be behind a bit 22:10:21 <danwent> here's link to tr3buchet's work : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/improved-nova-quantum-integration 22:10:31 <danwent> jkoelker: thanks 22:10:40 <salv-orlando> does the v2 api amounts to quantum + melange or is there something new as well? Just asking, not been following closely lately. 22:10:59 <danwent> salv-orlando: trying to keep it very simple… I think its actually less than quantum + melange 22:11:06 <danwent> a lot of the other stuff will be extensions in this version 22:11:19 <salv-orlando> got it 22:11:21 <danwent> including a lot of the stuff for nova parity 22:11:35 <danwent> its hard enough just focusing on the simple things :) 22:12:04 <danwent> Ok, any other F-1 topics that we need to discuss? 22:12:09 <gongys> So We still need an standalone melange in the folsom? 22:12:41 <danwent> gongys: no, not once the v2 API is complete and the corresponding back-ends have been completed. 22:13:00 <gongys> ok 22:13:10 <danwent> two reviews that are currently targeted for F-1: 22:13:11 <danwent> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7336/ 22:13:28 <danwent> gongys: looks like this just needs a bit of pep-8 love? 22:13:52 <danwent> would be good to get another core approval on this one-liner: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7685/ 22:14:09 <danwent> and I need to refresh the following review to incorporate feedback: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7460/ 22:14:09 <salv-orlando> (and the reviewer new specs for missing it :)) 22:14:52 <danwent> that last branch is not really needed for F-1, its more about laying groundwork for things in F-2, so I'm fine with it not going in F-1 22:15:19 <danwent> ok, any other issues people are tracking for F-1? 22:15:23 <gongys> About 7685.ok. I will do it as soon as possible after this meeting. 22:15:43 <danwent> gongys: great, thanks. 22:16:22 <danwent> Ok, hopefully F-1 will wrap up without too much drama, as we really need to focus on F-2… there's a lot of essential stuff there, with a lot of interdependencies 22:16:43 <danwent> F-2 is due start of July 22:16:53 <danwent> so really just over a month away... 22:17:26 <danwent> and that is our target for demonstrating nova-parity with the new v2 API. 22:17:38 <danwent> #topic community topics 22:18:10 <danwent> just wanted to put out a "help wanted" ad for people to work on developer docs (thanks to garyk for getting things kicked off). 22:18:45 <marktvoelker> #help danwent 22:18:52 <danwent> also, if someone out there is interested in helping me maintain an essex-stable branch, let me know, as there's definitely a set of fixes from F-1 that we'll want to backport 22:19:11 <danwent> marktvoelker: that's a tag? never knew :) 22:19:14 <salv-orlando> danwent: this means adding security groups, floating ips, and all the other network-related bits of the OS api on the Quantum API? 22:19:34 <danwent> salv-orlando: yes, though as extensions. 22:20:02 <salv-orlando> please send Dan as many amphetamins as you can 22:20:09 <marktvoelker> danwent: Yep, just learned that in the last meeting =) 22:20:13 <salv-orlando> he is not going to sleep for the next month. 22:20:28 <danwent> salv-orlando: haha… yeah, my wife will love that :) 22:20:49 <danwent> ok, also wanted to draw attention to ttx's comments about Bug Triage day: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg12040.html and http://wiki.openstack.org/BugTriage 22:21:15 <danwent> I think they are talking about doing this on June 7th 22:21:38 <danwent> goal is to clean up our bug tracker, identifying real issues, classifying them, and getting rid of the rest. 22:21:53 <danwent> and final topic: meeting time 22:22:25 <danwent> so there are two things that aren't great about our current meeting time. Its very inconvenient for some people salv-orlando, garyk, gongys, at least. 22:22:31 <garyk> can me move it a few hours forward or backswards it is 1:22 here 22:22:49 <danwent> and also, its right after the main meeting, so I don't have fresh info to report during the main openstack meeting. 22:23:34 <danwent> does anyone know where the irc channel calendar is? I think openstack-meeting is booked a lot of tuesday, but perhaps we could meet on a quantum-dev channel or something? 22:24:09 <danwent> do people that attend this meeting have conflicts earlier in the day on tuesday? 22:24:12 * marktvoelker digs for that link 22:24:30 <danwent> http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 22:24:30 <rkukura> if I do, they can be rescheduled 22:24:39 * marktvoelker would favor earlier in the day 22:24:49 <edgarmagana> danwent: I am fine earlier 22:25:12 <rkukura> seems we'd need to be at least 6 or 7 hours earlier for gongys 22:25:16 <danwent> Ok, I will send out a propsed time change to early tuesday to the netstack and main openstack lists. 22:25:22 <salv-orlando> If u want to keep tuesday 17UTC sound reasonable for US and EU 22:25:24 <gongys> now is 6:30 Wed. 22:25:25 <marktvoelker> http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 22:25:27 <danwent> rkukura: good point. 22:25:32 <marktvoelker> See iCal link there 22:25:42 <danwent> I think this is the problem we always get to with scheduling these meetings…. 22:25:56 <danwent> often people propose to alternate, but alternately weekly seems tough. 22:26:42 <danwent> gongys: do you have a preference between late and night vs. early in morning? 22:27:15 <gongys> now is good time for me. 22:27:15 <danwent> gongys: it seems like no US time will be good for you, is that right? 22:27:40 <danwent> gongys: ok. 22:27:57 <salv-orlando> is garyk the only in eastern EU tz? 22:28:03 <gongys> I mean current scheduling is fine with me. 22:28:23 <gongys> one hour earlier will be also ok for me. 22:28:29 <danwent> ok, well, I will start a thread about this on nestack with some options. having a time that works across the world clearly isn't feasible. 22:28:36 <gongys> that will help garyk. I think 22:28:49 <garyk> :) 22:28:54 <danwent> gongys: unfortunately, one hour earlier is openstack meeting on tuesday, though we could switch to monday . 22:29:41 <garyk> monday is better for me - i am fine with the middle of the night on a monday 22:29:52 <gongys> Yes, we can switch our meeting to wed, 11 hours after main meeting. 22:29:57 <danwent> garyk: ok, so an hour earlier and a day earlier? 22:30:05 <salv-orlando> +1 22:30:13 <garyk> +1 22:30:28 <danwent> mmm. that might conflict with doc team. 22:30:42 <danwent> would that be 2000 UTC? 22:30:49 <salv-orlando> 21UTC 22:31:13 <gongys> Wed 21 UTC? 22:31:20 <danwent> ok, there's a nova-subteam meeting at that point. but perhaps we could us another channel. I'll also check with vish to make sure that is active 22:31:33 <danwent> gongys: I'd prefer to do it before the main openstack meeting if possible. 22:31:48 <gongys> ok. 22:31:58 <gongys> Mon 21 UTC? 22:32:33 <danwent> gongys: Ok, let's have Mon 21 UTC as an option, possibly doing that on another channel if needed? 22:32:47 <danwent> is that at least a better option for people? 22:33:08 <garyk> works for me 22:33:10 <rkukura> works fine for me 22:33:11 <gongys> 21 UTC if fine with me on any day. 22:33:15 <edgarmagana> 21UCT is 12:00 PST? 22:33:32 <danwent> Ok, send me email soon if you have concerns with this timeslot. 22:34:16 <danwent> #todo #danwent revise meeting time to be 21 UTC on monday. 22:34:26 <danwent> edgarmagana: no, its same time as main openstack meeting, I believe 22:34:33 <danwent> so 2pm pacific 22:34:51 <soren> No. 22:34:55 <soren> Uh. 22:34:56 <soren> Sorry. 22:34:58 <soren> Yes. 22:35:12 <danwent> i'm just going by this: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 22:35:18 <danwent> i'm terrible at timezone calculations :) 22:35:33 <marktvoelker> 21 utc = 2pdt = 1 pst 22:35:37 <soren> PDT is 7 hours behind UTC. 22:35:53 <edgarmagana> danwent: sounds good to me! 22:36:01 <danwent> ok, let's go forward with this. 22:36:11 <soren> I'm good at timezone stuff, I just can't subtract. 22:36:15 <soren> Sad. 22:36:24 <danwent> only possible hiccup I see is if doing it on another published IRC channel is OK. 22:36:27 <danwent> soren: :) 22:36:34 <jkoelker> so always count forward then ;) 22:36:43 <danwent> #topic open discussion 22:36:45 <danwent> anything? 22:37:14 <garyk> anyone want to run tomorrow morning? :) 22:37:21 <gongys> regarding my change: 22:37:22 <gongys> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7596/ 22:37:25 <danwent> ok, thanks folks. Please help wrap up the last few reviews for F-1 22:37:28 <rkukura> feedback on updates/discussion on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/provider-networks would be welcome 22:37:39 <danwent> rkukura: great, will do. 22:37:49 <danwent> ok, have a good week folks! 22:37:52 <danwent> #endmeeting