22:01:41 #startmeeting 22:01:41 o/ 22:01:42 Meeting started Tue May 22 22:01:41 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:01:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:01:43 o/ 22:01:44 * mtaylor wastes time 22:01:46 hi 22:01:52 mtaylor: damn you! 22:02:03 hi 22:02:08 hi folks 22:02:14 hi 22:02:17 #link agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings 22:02:19 hi gongys 22:02:24 o/ 22:02:27 Hi All! 22:02:31 gongys: what time is it for you? 22:02:41 6:00 in the morning 22:02:50 yikes… appreciate you making the meeting :) 22:03:00 Yes. not easy. 22:03:04 between you and garyk, maybe we should be consider a new time. 22:03:12 its not easy for salv-orlando either 22:03:14 +1 22:03:28 ok, let's bring it up during open discussion 22:03:56 #topic F-1 Release 22:04:20 branchpoint will be tonight. anything other than important bug fixes should be in by tonight. 22:04:22 https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-1 22:04:56 any critical bug fixes found between now and release on thurs should be pushed to master, then send me a note and I can pull them to the milestone proposed branch 22:05:00 jkoelker: here? 22:05:11 _cerberus_: ? 22:05:29 big update is that we're not going to try and push v2 API code in F-1 22:05:32 <_cerberus_> What's it worth to you? 22:05:57 there's been a lots of good progress, but there's still some more work to be done, and I want to make sure folks have ample time to review 22:06:09 _cerberus_: I think plan is to get a spec of sorts out quickly for feedback though? 22:06:22 <_cerberus_> Yes 22:06:29 as many items in F-2 require people to start writing code against the v2 API 22:06:32 is there a github repo that we call look at in the interim? 22:06:45 SumitNaiksatam: yes 22:06:45 for the v2 API that is 22:06:58 jkoelker has a branch 22:07:00 one sec 22:07:05 I think its linked from BP 22:07:24 yeah, at bottom of BP 22:07:27 oh ok 22:07:28 https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/tree/melange 22:07:32 I did not notice it 22:07:34 thanks! 22:07:41 jkoelker is sly like that :P 22:08:12 or I was lazy to scroll :-) 22:08:12 silly question: is the nova code also being taken care of? this may also take time to get through 22:08:21 is this one: https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/tree/melange 22:08:30 garyk: which nova code? 22:08:35 gongys: yup 22:08:43 nova/network/... 22:09:14 garyk: I guess i'm not sure what you mean by "being taken care of"… do you mean maintained? most of the quantum manager code will go away in Folsom 22:09:43 tr3buchet has a BP in F-2 to rework nova code to work with new v2 API (and some other cool changes, like eliminating nova-network) 22:09:49 at least when running with quantum 22:09:58 ok, that makes sense 22:10:03 https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/compare/openstack:master...melange that's the current diff with trunk so far 22:10:17 i havn't merged trunk though in a few days, so it might be behind a bit 22:10:21 here's link to tr3buchet's work : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/improved-nova-quantum-integration 22:10:31 jkoelker: thanks 22:10:40 does the v2 api amounts to quantum + melange or is there something new as well? Just asking, not been following closely lately. 22:10:59 salv-orlando: trying to keep it very simple… I think its actually less than quantum + melange 22:11:06 a lot of the other stuff will be extensions in this version 22:11:19 got it 22:11:21 including a lot of the stuff for nova parity 22:11:35 its hard enough just focusing on the simple things :) 22:12:04 Ok, any other F-1 topics that we need to discuss? 22:12:09 So We still need an standalone melange in the folsom? 22:12:41 gongys: no, not once the v2 API is complete and the corresponding back-ends have been completed. 22:13:00 ok 22:13:10 two reviews that are currently targeted for F-1: 22:13:11 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7336/ 22:13:28 gongys: looks like this just needs a bit of pep-8 love? 22:13:52 would be good to get another core approval on this one-liner: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7685/ 22:14:09 and I need to refresh the following review to incorporate feedback: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7460/ 22:14:09 (and the reviewer new specs for missing it :)) 22:14:52 that last branch is not really needed for F-1, its more about laying groundwork for things in F-2, so I'm fine with it not going in F-1 22:15:19 ok, any other issues people are tracking for F-1? 22:15:23 About 7685.ok. I will do it as soon as possible after this meeting. 22:15:43 gongys: great, thanks. 22:16:22 Ok, hopefully F-1 will wrap up without too much drama, as we really need to focus on F-2… there's a lot of essential stuff there, with a lot of interdependencies 22:16:43 F-2 is due start of July 22:16:53 so really just over a month away... 22:17:26 and that is our target for demonstrating nova-parity with the new v2 API. 22:17:38 #topic community topics 22:18:10 just wanted to put out a "help wanted" ad for people to work on developer docs (thanks to garyk for getting things kicked off). 22:18:45 #help danwent 22:18:52 also, if someone out there is interested in helping me maintain an essex-stable branch, let me know, as there's definitely a set of fixes from F-1 that we'll want to backport 22:19:11 marktvoelker: that's a tag? never knew :) 22:19:14 danwent: this means adding security groups, floating ips, and all the other network-related bits of the OS api on the Quantum API? 22:19:34 salv-orlando: yes, though as extensions. 22:20:02 please send Dan as many amphetamins as you can 22:20:09 danwent: Yep, just learned that in the last meeting =) 22:20:13 he is not going to sleep for the next month. 22:20:28 salv-orlando: haha… yeah, my wife will love that :) 22:20:49 ok, also wanted to draw attention to ttx's comments about Bug Triage day: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg12040.html and http://wiki.openstack.org/BugTriage 22:21:15 I think they are talking about doing this on June 7th 22:21:38 goal is to clean up our bug tracker, identifying real issues, classifying them, and getting rid of the rest. 22:21:53 and final topic: meeting time 22:22:25 so there are two things that aren't great about our current meeting time. Its very inconvenient for some people salv-orlando, garyk, gongys, at least. 22:22:31 can me move it a few hours forward or backswards it is 1:22 here 22:22:49 and also, its right after the main meeting, so I don't have fresh info to report during the main openstack meeting. 22:23:34 does anyone know where the irc channel calendar is? I think openstack-meeting is booked a lot of tuesday, but perhaps we could meet on a quantum-dev channel or something? 22:24:09 do people that attend this meeting have conflicts earlier in the day on tuesday? 22:24:12 * marktvoelker digs for that link 22:24:30 http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 22:24:30 if I do, they can be rescheduled 22:24:39 * marktvoelker would favor earlier in the day 22:24:49 danwent: I am fine earlier 22:25:12 seems we'd need to be at least 6 or 7 hours earlier for gongys 22:25:16 Ok, I will send out a propsed time change to early tuesday to the netstack and main openstack lists. 22:25:22 If u want to keep tuesday 17UTC sound reasonable for US and EU 22:25:24 now is 6:30 Wed. 22:25:25 http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 22:25:27 rkukura: good point. 22:25:32 See iCal link there 22:25:42 I think this is the problem we always get to with scheduling these meetings…. 22:25:56 often people propose to alternate, but alternately weekly seems tough. 22:26:42 gongys: do you have a preference between late and night vs. early in morning? 22:27:15 now is good time for me. 22:27:15 gongys: it seems like no US time will be good for you, is that right? 22:27:40 gongys: ok. 22:27:57 is garyk the only in eastern EU tz? 22:28:03 I mean current scheduling is fine with me. 22:28:23 one hour earlier will be also ok for me. 22:28:29 ok, well, I will start a thread about this on nestack with some options. having a time that works across the world clearly isn't feasible. 22:28:36 that will help garyk. I think 22:28:49 :) 22:28:54 gongys: unfortunately, one hour earlier is openstack meeting on tuesday, though we could switch to monday . 22:29:41 monday is better for me - i am fine with the middle of the night on a monday 22:29:52 Yes, we can switch our meeting to wed, 11 hours after main meeting. 22:29:57 garyk: ok, so an hour earlier and a day earlier? 22:30:05 +1 22:30:13 +1 22:30:28 mmm. that might conflict with doc team. 22:30:42 would that be 2000 UTC? 22:30:49 21UTC 22:31:13 Wed 21 UTC? 22:31:20 ok, there's a nova-subteam meeting at that point. but perhaps we could us another channel. I'll also check with vish to make sure that is active 22:31:33 gongys: I'd prefer to do it before the main openstack meeting if possible. 22:31:48 ok. 22:31:58 Mon 21 UTC? 22:32:33 gongys: Ok, let's have Mon 21 UTC as an option, possibly doing that on another channel if needed? 22:32:47 is that at least a better option for people? 22:33:08 works for me 22:33:10 works fine for me 22:33:11 21 UTC if fine with me on any day. 22:33:15 21UCT is 12:00 PST? 22:33:32 Ok, send me email soon if you have concerns with this timeslot. 22:34:16 #todo #danwent revise meeting time to be 21 UTC on monday. 22:34:26 edgarmagana: no, its same time as main openstack meeting, I believe 22:34:33 so 2pm pacific 22:34:51 No. 22:34:55 Uh. 22:34:56 Sorry. 22:34:58 Yes. 22:35:12 i'm just going by this: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings 22:35:18 i'm terrible at timezone calculations :) 22:35:33 21 utc = 2pdt = 1 pst 22:35:37 PDT is 7 hours behind UTC. 22:35:53 danwent: sounds good to me! 22:36:01 ok, let's go forward with this. 22:36:11 I'm good at timezone stuff, I just can't subtract. 22:36:15 Sad. 22:36:24 only possible hiccup I see is if doing it on another published IRC channel is OK. 22:36:27 soren: :) 22:36:34 so always count forward then ;) 22:36:43 #topic open discussion 22:36:45 anything? 22:37:14 anyone want to run tomorrow morning? :) 22:37:21 regarding my change: 22:37:22 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7596/ 22:37:25 ok, thanks folks. Please help wrap up the last few reviews for F-1 22:37:28 feedback on updates/discussion on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/provider-networks would be welcome 22:37:39 rkukura: great, will do. 22:37:49 ok, have a good week folks! 22:37:52 #endmeeting