17:04:31 #startmeeting 17:04:32 Meeting started Thu Jul 12 17:04:31 2012 UTC. The chair is davidkranz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:04:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:05:18 hey folks 17:05:27 hey 17:05:37 davidkranz: yes, here, but only for about 20 mins. 17:05:51 so just off the bat, i've had no time to work on the SwiftSupport branch, so no updates :/ 17:05:51 jaypipes: OK, let's get to it. 17:06:04 davidkranz: cool with me. 17:06:04 hi David 17:06:19 jaypipes: thanks for the sample code branch for whitebox, i should get my patch in my tomorrow morning my time 17:06:22 rohitk: Are you going to finish https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9059/ 17:06:51 rohitk: Great. I have some resource stuff to go in after that. 17:07:32 jaypipes: I looked at the Tuesday meeting logs and am a little concerned about this cinder thing. 17:07:34 davidkranz: apologies, was just tied up with parallel work 17:08:03 jaypipes: Do you know what the testing status is? 17:08:03 rohitk: coolio. 17:08:49 davidkranz: Cinder == nova-volumes exactly right now, so Tempest actually doesn't need to do much more than add a little bit in for attaching to a volume endpoint (instead of using the compute endpoint) 17:09:01 davidkranz: I told jgriffith that I would add the cinder test. 17:09:06 jaypipes: OK, good. 17:09:16 davidkranz: most of the work actually is in the devstack and devstack-gate side. 17:09:30 jaypipes: And I've got devstack ready to go once gating is ready :) 17:10:34 jgriffith: rock on. 17:10:35 I think Vish could have said more clearly that this is not a real code or functional change. 17:11:02 jgriffith: Maybe you should send another message clarifying that? 17:11:05 davidkranz: yeah, the mailing list thread has now turned ugly with George Reese' latest message. 17:11:13 davidkranz: Happy to 17:11:37 jaypipes: Oh, didn't see that yet. 17:11:49 jaypipes: But I can predict what it said. 17:11:53 heh 17:12:15 it was not very nice 17:12:29 jgriffith: and clearly he didn't actually read the email. 17:12:42 I think we are at the point of having real customers and have to work hard to avoid an impression that developers don't really care about that. 17:12:52 jaypipes: I was going to respond with "so is that a vote for option 1" but thought I'd refrain 17:13:58 I think there needs to be a specific set of hoops to be jumped through before real incompatible changes are made going forward. 17:14:02 davidkranz: it's quite obviously clear we care about it... otherwise we wouldn't put out a mailing list post talking about the options! :) 17:14:43 davidkranz: plus, these aren't actually incompatible changes we're talking about, as Cinder is an exact copy of nova-volumes at this point... it's more of a rename of part of the API than anything else IMHO. 17:15:00 jaypipes: I understand. It is a matter of impressions. 17:15:40 jaypipes: I didn't think any one was proposing to rip out volumes for Folsom until I saw this. 17:16:41 jaypipes: Anyway, hopefully this will settle down and not happen again. 17:16:50 Any more tempest business? 17:17:16 not from me.... it's Bug Squash Day, so we should all be focusing on triaging and fixing as many bugs as we can (in tempest and core projects) 17:17:27 /join #openstack-bugday if you're interested 17:17:41 jaypipes: OK 17:17:50 Any one have anything else for now? 17:18:20 nothing from me 17:18:42 How about Swift test checkin .. 17:18:43 OK. I added some comments to the etherpad from last week. 17:18:59 I guess that's it for now. 17:19:08 #endmeeting