16:01:59 #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible 16:01:59 Meeting started Thu Mar 17 16:01:59 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:02 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' 16:02:06 #topic Roll-call and Agenda 16:02:09 o/ 16:02:21 o/ 16:02:24 o/ 16:03:08 o/ 16:04:55 o/ 16:05:51 we have no action items from last week, so let's get to the agenda 16:05:59 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting 16:06:17 #topic Newton Summit Planning 16:06:30 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-summit 16:06:49 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-roadmap-refresh 16:06:58 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-roadmap-brainstorm 16:07:27 in the last link I've added a bunch of thoughts around work item planning for Newton - I'd love to see everyone else add notes, questions, thoughts, etc 16:07:34 Any response on the # of rooms we’ll have for sessions 16:08:00 automagically not yet, I'll ping the organisers and see if there's an update 16:08:09 #action odyssey4me to follow up on room allocations 16:08:35 odyssey4me: Maybe mention dynamic inventory test coverage in the roadmap items 16:08:43 odyssey4me an email on that came through yesterday 16:09:40 automagically odyssey4me OpenStackAnsible: 1fb, 8wr, cm:half 16:10:01 jmccrory oh? where do you see that? 16:10:02 translation please jmccrory 16:10:14 that sounds like we got what we asked for 16:10:30 1 fishbowl, 8 workrooms, and halfday at contributor's meetup 16:10:45 awesome, that's exactly what we asked for 16:10:52 Ah, thx 16:11:17 automagically can you add that item to the brainstorm? 16:11:28 or are you referring to the roadmap-refresh? 16:11:47 roadmap-refresh 16:11:54 ah ok - let me work that in 16:12:04 We went from 0 test coverage, to a decent amount during this cycle 16:12:26 Well, not 0, the AIO was obviously providing some coverage there 16:12:44 done - that's a very high level thing for the product WG and press coverage 16:16:23 odyssey4me: I’m noticing no mention of multi-platform in the newton roadmap. Intentional? 16:16:46 ok, we have 15 proposed sessions for the summit - so we need to choose 8 which will become work sessions... the rest can be optionally taken on in the contributor day 16:16:49 I’m ok with it, as my only needs at present at Ubuntu, and I’m glad to see the 16.04 work there 16:16:51 automagically it's in the summit ether 16:17:06 can we finalise votes - or propose any consolidations / changes 16:17:16 spotz: Thanks 16:17:38 automagically yeah, it seems to me that the lion's share of attention will be on Ubuntu 16.04 work and the multi-OS will simply be a side effect 16:17:42 late but ohai 16:17:50 agreed odyssey4me 16:18:22 I don't see it as a focal point until someone comes along to actually do the work, and so far we have no really consistent contributors showing interest 16:18:34 I think it'll become easier once we've done the 16.04 work though 16:19:22 So I propose that we take Multi-OS work off the table for work sessions and that we keep the Ubuntu 16.04 work session planned. Any objections? 16:19:42 For workgroups, we’ve got 2 about gating. Any objections to combining those? 16:19:43 Not from me if the one will most likely spawn the other 16:20:32 so the one session was to explain how gating works, and the other is a follow on to look at how we can do scenario gating 16:20:50 each session is 40 mins, and I think 40 mins is just enough time to cover the explanation 16:20:55 Ah, okay 16:21:32 Looks like we have about 9 highly voted topics 16:21:35 for WG 16:22:29 hehe 16:22:35 Can we git lessons learned from Mitaka into the Work planning for Newton? 16:22:40 fit not git 16:23:49 the housekeeping session? 16:23:59 Yep 16:24:12 I can see it fitting in either, maybe whichever goes first? 16:24:17 moved to the top - we must have it, and I recommend that we do that first 16:24:27 +1, its definitely a must have 16:24:49 ubuntu 16.04 is heavily voted for - we do that in its own session 16:25:03 dynamic inventory is also heavily voted for 16:25:38 The CI windmill thing - we can shift to community day, I think? 16:25:51 makes sense 16:26:22 it looks like the OVS work session will have to wait for then too? 16:26:51 hello 16:27:00 o/ michaelgugino 16:28:37 maybe role dep cleanup, tags cleanup and var cleanup can be a consolidated work session? 16:29:01 +1 on a single cleanup session 16:29:13 +1 16:29:15 automagically will you facilitate that? 16:29:20 Sure 16:29:27 leaving the doc cleanup seperate? 16:29:32 can you consolidate each topic into yours then? 16:29:38 yeah doc cleanup should be seperate 16:29:42 Will do 16:29:48 +1 16:29:59 ansible 2 must also be done 16:30:11 and I don't see that one combining 16:32:43 ok, how should we use the fishbowl? 16:33:03 it'll be published on the schedule, and a large room - so we often get a lot of non-contributors coming 16:33:30 odyseey4me what about a history, we're at and where we're going? 16:33:32 My initial thoughts was simply to do a Project Update - This is what we did in Mitaka and plan to do in Newton 16:33:37 where we're at... 16:33:45 heh, spotz - exactly my thoughts 16:33:59 ery much a status update and a chance for interested parties to meet with us and chat 16:35:04 also maybe end with how to contribute? 16:35:53 Can anyone speak to how OSA compares to similar puppet efforts? I’d imagine many operators who are interested in automation may have already been down the puppet path 16:36:06 I also expect deployers/operators to have questions about how OSA compares to Kolla 16:37:07 automagically I imagine that's of interest - but I'd rather not get into a position of competitve discussions. We're all working together to make the deployment of OpenStack simpler. 16:37:40 Leave 5 minutes for Q&A at the end and be prepared for those type of questions 16:37:47 Fair enough. I suppose it could be difficult to do an objective comparison 16:38:32 Summit topic for a spain session! Have someone from each group:) 16:38:51 Pretty sure we did that in Tokyo, and I sat through it. 16:39:07 Wasn't intentional, though 16:39:20 spotz interestingly enough, we've seen others do it - often consulting groups doing presentations comparing approaches, etc 16:40:12 ok, if we had to vote for one work session to not happen this summit - which would it be? 16:40:47 New services 16:40:48 that's not that it won't happen, but more along the lines of it happens another time - probably remotely 16:40:48 whichever one is scheduled latest in the day 16:40:59 hughsaunders is a helper :p 16:41:00 Only because I think the other sessions will set expectations for new services 16:41:41 Very closely to the intended outcome of the new services session proposed 16:42:00 yeah, let's move that to the contributors day 16:42:07 any objections to that? 16:42:09 maybe housekeeping - its quite general 16:42:29 housekeeping I think is first hughsaunders 16:42:37 hughsaunders yeah, but we need to get the housekeeping session done right at the start 16:43:18 before we plan any work too heavily, I need some time with the team to discuss Mitaka and consider how we do Newton in a way that goes more smoothly 16:44:08 need to smooth the glidepath. done. 16:45:06 based on the experience from the last summit, we get randoms popping in on the contributor day 16:45:24 so actually discussing stuff like new project integration and all that would be good 16:45:46 alright - we have 8 work sessions! 16:46:10 cool, we have 10 mins left to quickly discuss releases 16:46:14 happy to move on? 16:46:29 +1 to moving on 16:46:42 #topic Release Planning and Decisions 16:47:01 Liberty 12.0.8 and Kilo 11.2.11 are due today 16:47:13 is anyone aware of any issue on those branches which should block the release? 16:47:37 I'm aware that there are some CVE's in the next SHA bump, so it is fairly crucial that we release now and move on. 16:48:23 alright, I'll release them 16:48:38 #action odyssey4me to release Liberty 12.0.8 and Kilo 11.2.11 16:48:54 how're we looking on the functional test front? 16:49:31 The OpenStack Projects have started releasing RC's, so we need to get going with updating SHA's in the roles and seeing whether they continue to work. 16:49:41 Then also looking for any deprecations. 16:50:05 When do we want to release? And what is our criteria for releasing Mitaka? 16:50:31 Functional testing looks like its almost there. Still waiting for swift to get through reviews 16:51:11 I believe neutron is still waiting for workflow 16:51:53 ok, I think we're in a reasonably good state to get on with bumping SHA's 16:52:05 Great work from jmccrory sorting out Keystone already! :) 16:52:40 think thatll need to be merged ahead of osa bumping shas 16:52:41 we have time for open discussion? 16:53:28 jmccrory yep 16:53:37 #topic Open Discussion 16:53:44 regions regions :D 16:53:46 \o/ 16:54:14 admin0 we'll have to get to that after Mitaka's released - we need to focus on finalising 16:54:18 ok 16:54:24 stevelle did you have something you wanted to raise? 16:54:41 I haven't had a lot of time to revise https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290834/ 16:54:47 it's open for grabs 16:55:32 Cool, I may have time for that stevelle 16:55:36 # link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290834/ 16:55:42 err no space, huh 16:55:51 Hey if I put together some things to do in the Hill Country for the Women of OpenStack you guys interested in it too? 16:56:37 surely spotz 16:56:41 +1 16:57:23 stevelle cloudnull commented on the discussion in https://review.openstack.org/290834 16:57:39 spotz that'd be pretty cool, thanks :) 16:58:02 I'll be getting to Austin on Sat and Leaving on Sat, so I may have a little time to look around. 16:58:27 ok, we're done for time - thanks all! 16:58:31 #endmeeting