16:01:03 #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting 16:01:03 Meeting started Thu Jun 29 16:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:06 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' 16:01:10 yeah! 16:01:11 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting 16:01:17 #topic Roll Call 16:01:26 o/ 16:01:35 He's only yeahing cause he has to run the meeting again next week while I'm showing the pony:) 16:01:48 hahahaha 16:01:56 \o/ 16:01:56 TIL about horse motels :D 16:02:41 We'll give folks a minute or 2 to wander in. It's mainly the andymccr show though cloudnull is the first thing:) 16:02:51 o/ 16:02:57 sweet!:) 16:03:22 neither mhayden or i have worked on the spec, we're bad people. 16:03:25 o/ 16:03:26 #topic Previous Items - cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec 16:03:31 next topic 16:03:34 now you have to repeat!:) 16:03:42 confirmed, i'm turrible 16:03:57 sigh 16:03:58 :P 16:03:59 well 16:04:00 like i said 16:04:05 milestone 3 im gonna start ejecting stuff 16:04:09 :'( 16:04:22 Bad cloudnull and mhayden! 16:04:23 s/ejecting/rejecting/ 16:04:24 as we move to feature freeze, i might move it aside so you can re-imp 16:04:34 mhayden: haha no actually taking the stuff that was alreadyc hanged and ejecting it :P 16:04:37 when's the feature freeze date? 16:05:05 so for us 16:05:09 its aug 7-11th 16:05:10 https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html 16:05:26 but keep in mind that things get harder to merge as we get close to milestone3 (we already have some gate timing issues causing problems) 16:05:40 but that means you still have a month and a half or so 16:05:55 So get on it! 16:06:05 ^ better listen to spotz 16:06:16 :) 16:06:23 * cloudnull listening to spotz_ 16:06:28 hahah good good 16:06:37 cloudnull: can we recarry that just to keep it on the agenda? 16:06:46 sure 16:06:51 #action cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec (and some work) 16:07:01 Moving on then 16:07:09 #topic Documentation changes 16:07:17 asettle: assuming that's you? 16:07:26 * asettle taps out 16:07:34 hahaha 16:07:37 so 16:07:41 the docs repos are changing! 16:07:41 spotz_: you are liaison :) but andymccr is repping me today, because I'm hosting the docs meeting right now too 16:07:53 ahh cool:) 16:07:59 we have a little bit to do - not too much, since all our docs are in our repos 16:08:01 but there is a spec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html 16:08:22 we need to imp that, i think there is a sample patch that another project has, e.g.: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478546/ 16:08:31 #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html 16:08:40 thanks spotz_ :D forgot to link 16:08:48 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478546/ 16:08:58 spotz_: has got this ;) thanks! 16:09:02 i think its pretty minimal for us, but was hoping somebody could take a stab at ensuring we're achieving that, obv asettle will be a point of contact 16:09:09 I'll take a look, might be able to work on it some next week while off and traveling 16:09:14 spotz_: awesome thanks a bunch! 16:09:36 so thats pretty much that one. but its somehting we have to get done to keep our docs up to date as they change i believe 16:10:11 again by milestone 3 i think it is - but that may actually be milestone 3 for the docs project which is 2 weeks before ours (jul24-28, so just under a month) 16:10:18 oh ok 16:10:22 thanks for the timeframe 16:11:02 Ok marked the dates down, I'll look at it after I finish my CFP for summit 16:11:10 thanks spotz_! 16:11:38 #action spotz look at the doc changes needed for OSA, will give andymccr an update for next meeting 16:11:45 ahh such good action items :D 16:11:49 :) 16:12:09 Or I'll join from the pony, but can't lead a meeting like that! 16:12:28 hahaha yeah no problem, i mean we can wait for the week after or just let us know outside of the meeting time 16:12:29 PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado 16:12:38 bah hang on 16:12:46 topic ? 16:12:50 :p 16:12:55 yes! SO another PTG update. just to say its coming up again, we have a room from Wed-Fri, but Mon-Tue are cross project and may be useful to some people 16:12:55 #topic PTG - 11 -15 September - Deniver, CO 16:13:03 its in Denver - keep it in mind, get your tickets! 16:13:05 yes! SO another PTG update. just to say its coming up again, we have a room from Wed-Fri, but Mon-Tue are cross project and may be useful to some people 16:13:08 will repeat that one :P 16:13:09 evrardjp: Yeah it sent vs putting it inline:( 16:13:11 but yeah just an update! 16:13:45 andymccr: Etherpad or too early? 16:13:52 sadly i wont be at the PTG :'( 16:13:57 :( 16:13:57 spotz_: gonna call it too early right now. but we should think about that soonish i guess :) 16:14:22 cloudnull: i think your trip around Europe sounds better tbh :) 16:14:36 hahaha, maybe :) 16:14:36 ooh I'll pick that one!:) 16:14:49 cloudnull does fun stuff on vaca 16:14:55 I doubt I will be at the PTG too. Let's see. 16:15:12 I'm trying to get there, cross fingers 16:15:26 we'll get more details on that, but for now just try start planning to be there :P 16:15:44 Ok moving on 16:15:48 #topic Release Planning and Decisions 16:15:53 hrm that one worked:) 16:16:26 haha nice 16:16:36 i'll tag a release this week - thanks to evrardjp for doing the one while I was out. 16:17:04 and then like i said aug is milestone 3 for master 16:17:13 if there are any major issues let me know so i can include them in the release 16:17:36 So that brings us to.... 16:17:41 #topic uWSGI/NGinx Blueprint: pending some changes (andmyccr) 16:18:16 i was out so i havnt updated it just yet, but hopefully i'll fix something up before next week to get some more comments 16:18:21 and again will ping - but yeah my bad i havnt progressed that 16:18:41 i like where this blueprint is going ;) 16:18:45 heheh 16:18:59 mhayden: i thought we were friends :( 16:19:06 uh oh 16:19:12 :) 16:20:43 Ok moving on!:) 16:20:51 #topic OPen Discussion 16:21:33 And I've got one, cleaning up old reviews. we should go through them and either abandon or get them back on track. we're up to 3 pages of reviews a few from 2016 16:21:35 andymccr https://review.openstack.org/478836 should go in before we release ocata 16:21:53 I've got one: SHould we cancel next week's bug triage? 16:22:09 odyssey4me: noted - thanks 16:22:18 spotz_: I abandonned a few ones recently 16:22:28 evrardjp: yeah perhaps, i'll try run through them briefly - i did that while you were out last week i think 16:22:31 but don't hesitate 16:22:40 evrardjp: I'd say yes cause I'll be driving and it's a holiday i the US 16:22:54 I like to be a bid more pro-active instead of figuring out the gate crashed I am wondering if there is a way for people not in the weeds to get a heads up on breaking changes 16:22:54 andymccr: oh great. but it's gonna be 4th of July so I don't expect any US guy 16:23:01 evrardjp: yeah true 16:23:06 ah, you make a good point evrardjp 16:23:12 odyssey4me: there were a few reviews you -1'd and commented and nothing happened after 16:23:19 I am using guy because I don't know what's the plural man + woman term 16:23:21 xgerman_ yes, implement more testing - perhaps a periodic 16:23:31 then make sure you check the periodics daily 16:23:41 ahh xgerman_ - sorry i havnt responded to your mail yet (i was out the last few days), i will do today (i half wrote the response!) but yeah above. 16:23:48 evrardjp: No offense taken and asettle is in the other meeting and I don't think she'd be offended either 16:23:52 thanks 16:24:09 spotz_ which reviews? I haven't seen any comments that need addressing? 16:24:28 i think the point is more that there are a tonne of old reviews 16:24:36 spotz_: what what? :) 16:24:37 andymccr: let's do the triage when we can, ad-hoc. if ppl want to raise bug, they can raise them on the chan 16:25:05 Oh, no, I use 'guys' for men and women all the time 16:25:06 asettle: evrardjp using guys 16:25:14 It's a pretty generic term. It's evolvedddd. 16:25:17 At least, in my mind. 16:25:18 odyssey4me: looging in 16:25:20 cool. 16:25:21 Others don't see it as such 16:25:23 ANWYAY NOT THE PLACE 16:25:26 so 16:25:30 for the old reviews 16:25:38 I don't see a problem for abandonning them 16:25:55 we probably need to arrange some sort of hack day to address old reviews 16:26:00 if they are like 6 months old, they are probably not relevant anymore 16:26:09 odyssey4me: one example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388013/, the other one I was thinking was jmccrory -1 as the last thing 16:26:45 yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I2eae414fba7ddfac44ad6f5125e08740dc7a80a2,n,z has notmoved in ages 16:26:48 But like this review from Travis is a year old https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342383/ 16:27:23 that might even work now 16:27:33 I'm just thinking someone with the knowledge should maybe go through and abandon or mail the list or an either to get traction cause some might be too old to continue with 16:27:48 but yeah, we need time to actually evaluate and decide whether to achieve those goals or abandon them 16:28:05 maybe we should put them in an etherpad, evaluate together in a hackday like odyssey4me suggested? 16:28:17 +2 16:28:29 sounds good to me 16:28:39 I don't think we have any bugs that old but we could do them at the same time too 16:28:49 well we do 16:28:54 :( 16:28:57 but they are now classified as opinion 16:29:11 it's been a while I didn't move them though, so I am sorry 16:29:24 #action evrardjp opinion bugs according to schedule 16:29:46 I just know I sometimes go looking for stuff and you never know if old bugs are still valid 16:30:14 so if they are not opinion they are still "active" 16:30:14 agreed 16:30:36 but it's not important, if you are looking into bug, the triage gives the importance of the bug 16:30:44 #action Schedule a hack day to go through old reviews and possibly bugs 16:30:54 :) 16:30:57 * mhayden will bring snacks 16:31:02 look at us adding all sorts of action items 16:31:11 mhayden: i just want some of those scotch brite sponges 16:31:12 if it's low or wishlist, we can pretty much put that further in the back of our heads :) 16:31:28 andymccr: mhayden ?? 16:31:37 sounds a nice private joke. 16:31:39 andymccr: You can't get them on amazon.co.uk? 16:31:44 evrardjp: gotta clean those bugs 16:31:49 ahh 16:31:50 haha. 16:31:56 i print out the ansible tasks on paper and them rub them with soap and water 16:32:11 I thought it was more a super timor thing. 16:32:17 I bet you hand write them... 16:32:36 Ok any more open discussion things? 16:32:37 scrub the bugs! 16:32:42 all good from my side 16:32:48 mhayden: that's an expensive hobby, with the price of the ink 16:32:52 I can find more stuff for you.... 16:32:57 evrardjp: double sided pages 16:33:02 or actually 1 thing 16:33:07 see:) 16:33:29 cloudnull wrote a blog about implementing nspawn with OSA - it would be cool if people could take a look (it links a review too) - i think its a cool concept 16:33:38 and id like some more eyes and people interested prior to the PTG 16:33:39 #link https://cloudnull.io/2017/06/nspawning-openstack-ansible/ 16:33:52 there is a review up for it 16:34:02 ++ 16:34:05 :) 16:34:22 so we can have a meaningful discussion and actually move forward with it - we've been talking for a while (much like the dev mode stuff!) so i'd like to start executing on that one too. 16:34:23 :) 16:34:30 cloudnull: I love the idea, but I'm gonna a pain, sorry in advance! 16:34:39 I've also got some of those learnings being implemeted in our existing stack 16:34:41 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478561/ 16:34:53 evrardjp: ++ no worries 16:34:58 We can change it to what you like while he's traipsing about Europe if you come to PTG evrardjp! 16:35:30 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478561/ 16:35:33 well if he is in Europe I'd be happy to invite him home for drinks. :D 16:35:49 evrardjp: haha yes exactly 16:36:05 evrardjp: I may be in your home town 16:36:09 still figuring that part out 16:36:13 plus thanks for the work and the blog post cloudnull - its really awesome imo 16:36:23 thanks indeed 16:36:26 thanks1 16:36:35 thanks2 :) 16:36:42 I think it will open up some cool possibilities 16:37:25 the WIP review is very incomplete 16:37:41 yeah im genuinely hoping to fix the community goals and then focus on looking at that 16:37:41 and a role will be needed for nspawn host setup 16:37:47 We still have 23 minutes we can do it now! 16:38:20 but all of the concepts are in the review so folks can see the things in one place. 16:39:34 ^ see link above:) 16:39:55 cloudnull: great 16:40:13 Well I'm gonna release everyone back to their day. Pester cloudnull in the openstack-ansible channel:) 16:40:22 #end-meeting 16:40:24 spotz_: ok 16:40:24 ++ 16:40:26 cheers all 16:40:29 bye all! 16:40:32 #endmeeting