16:01:50 <evrardjp> #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting
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16:02:20 <evrardjp> #topic rollcall
16:03:16 <prometheanfire> o/
16:03:48 <hwoarang> o/
16:03:48 * mhayden woots
16:04:13 <evrardjp> that's 4 of us!
16:04:26 <andymccr> o/
16:04:28 <evrardjp> 5!
16:04:31 <evrardjp> woot!
16:04:44 <odyssey4me> o/ but leaving in 10-15 mins.
16:04:46 <evrardjp> I was wondering if I should change the time of the meeting, but 5, it's byzance!
16:04:52 <evrardjp> ok let's go then
16:05:05 <evrardjp> #topic last meeting action items
16:05:09 <spotz> \o/
16:05:50 <evrardjp> last meeting action items were to deprecate monasca, searchlight, and freezer (the roles, not the projects or the french dragon ball character)
16:06:19 <evrardjp> I did it. We still have a flaky telemetry stack, but that isn't on the agenda.
16:06:23 <evrardjp> next
16:06:29 <spotz> evrardjp: Was someone interested in picking up one of them? I think I remember someone popping up after the meeting
16:06:37 <evrardjp> no news.
16:06:47 <evrardjp> I went ahead and deprecated what I could
16:07:01 <evrardjp> #topic liaisons feedback
16:07:16 <evrardjp> anything to report?
16:07:41 <evrardjp> odyssey4me: anything to say about infra? mhayden: anything to say about CVE-2017-16239 ?
16:07:52 <spotz> Nothing really from docs, we need Jimmy to make the CSS change to mark Newton EOL. I've got a patch ready to go about the repo change ones we move it though
16:08:00 <mhayden> evrardjp: not too much there -- i'm not aware of any workarounds other than bumping shas
16:08:07 <evrardjp> ok
16:08:11 <mhayden> then again, you must be an authed user to exploit it
16:08:47 <evrardjp> ok, so no real urgency
16:09:03 <evrardjp> we'll do our regular cycle of updates and we'll get the sha update
16:09:04 <evrardjp> good
16:09:26 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/openstack-ansible stable/ocata: Update all SHAs for 15.1.13  https://review.openstack.org/522856
16:09:27 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/openstack-ansible stable/newton: Update all SHAs for 14.2.13  https://review.openstack.org/522858
16:09:31 <odyssey4me> evrardjp only issue for infra at this stage is that we're hitting some pretty bad timeouts for master & pike, so I'll see how we can work around it or resolve them in the next week or two
16:09:32 <evrardjp> on the bug sides, we haven't done much bug triages this month, due to summit, zuul and many things. So sorry for that.
16:09:52 <odyssey4me> I have some ideas to combat them and will try out some things.
16:10:06 <evrardjp> odyssey4me: Yes. I will work with you on that. If anyone has more ideas, I guess I'd say "shoot!"
16:10:27 <evrardjp> next topic then
16:10:39 <evrardjp> #topic specs
16:10:48 <evrardjp> anything to be pointed out there?
16:11:11 <evrardjp> I guess we have a few pending ones that need some love
16:11:26 <evrardjp> but I mean I don't need to talk about one particularily
16:11:29 <evrardjp> anyone?
16:11:51 <odyssey4me> I've done some work on the python simplification and need another review for https://review.openstack.org/521754 to help move that along. It's a start, but there's still a long way to go.
16:13:02 <evrardjp> odyssey4me: I voted only a +1 to let ppl the time to process it too, so ppl, get acquainted to this wonderful work :)
16:13:21 <evrardjp> anyone else?
16:13:26 <evrardjp> 1x
16:13:28 <evrardjp> 2x
16:13:31 <evrardjp> 3x
16:13:33 <evrardjp> 4x
16:13:47 <evrardjp> 5x! done! let's move to a different topic!
16:13:57 <evrardjp> switch*
16:14:10 <evrardjp> #topic Helping infra reducing their inodes outage
16:14:23 <evrardjp> is there anything that should still be done there? I've seen we've added things back
16:14:38 <evrardjp> or at least there was a patch in, IIRC.
16:14:46 <evrardjp> odyssey4me: you worked on it, right?
16:15:28 <odyssey4me> evrardjp yeah, I need to rework it which may just involve removing the old stuff but haven't had a chance yet, so I'll revisit that
16:15:50 <evrardjp> I don't think there is an urgency anymore, should I remove that from the meeting topics?
16:16:02 <evrardjp> or you want to keep that as a reminder?
16:16:08 <evrardjp> I can do an action task
16:16:11 <odyssey4me> you wanted to have a detailed discussion about what is appropriate or not appropriate to store - I just wanted to tarball everything and go from there
16:16:21 <odyssey4me> but nah, there's a review up - that's reminder enough to me
16:16:35 <evrardjp> ok. Let's go from there.
16:16:53 <evrardjp> #topic open discussion
16:17:52 <odyssey4me> need another review for https://review.openstack.org/522731 which is a pretty bad bug that needs fixing with it
16:18:43 <spotz> looking
16:19:15 <evrardjp> oh yeah, backport of this bad boy
16:19:25 <RandomTech> Mind if i say something about the documentation?
16:19:27 <spotz> Done and could have sworn I'd done that one already unless it was a backport
16:19:37 <evrardjp> RandomTech: go ahead!
16:20:29 <RandomTech> ive noticed the documentation here: https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/openstack-ansible/latest/app-config-prod-ceph.html isnt very clear about what is actually required to use ceph. it seems to just give an example of one way you can
16:20:58 <RandomTech> my team has been stuck on it for a while because of that
16:21:02 <evrardjp> what would you do to improve it ?
16:21:19 <evrardjp> it's a fairly new doc IIRC
16:21:33 <evrardjp> oh no it's not
16:21:47 <RandomTech> it would be nice to see a list of things that have to be specified in the diffrent files. either in comments or as their own table
16:21:48 <odyssey4me> the example config appendices are meant to be examples to illustrate what configs need to be in place to get it to a working state
16:22:37 <evrardjp> RandomTech: https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/openstack-ansible/latest/app-config-prod-ceph.html#user-variables and https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/openstack-ansible/latest/app-config-prod-ceph.html#environment-customizations seem quite explicit
16:22:41 <odyssey4me> those are the minimum required - any extra tweaks or details would be found in the individual role docs, or role code - for ceph we use ceph-ansible so you'd also have to look there
16:22:47 <evrardjp> is there anything missing?
16:23:09 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/pike: run_tests_common.sh: Add more openSUSE packages  https://review.openstack.org/523347
16:23:35 <odyssey4me> it may be better to try and discuss where you're getting stuck to figure out the root cause based on your actual config
16:23:49 <odyssey4me> but IIRC logan- actually tested with that config
16:23:56 <RandomTech> okay we were slightly confused as it say we MAY need those variables set.
16:24:04 <RandomTech> not that we need to overide all of those
16:24:07 <evrardjp> odyssey4me: RandomTech is giving us a first hand, new deployer, experience, so it's great to hear it
16:24:19 <evrardjp> RandomTech: ok.
16:24:33 <odyssey4me> ah ok - so it's that initial line in user_variables that's causing confusion
16:24:34 <evrardjp> RandomTech: but what if you don't want to use ceph for x and y?
16:24:41 <odyssey4me> that really should not be there in an example
16:25:01 <evrardjp> yeah.
16:25:10 <evrardjp> that's easy to fix
16:25:31 <odyssey4me> yup
16:25:35 <spotz> catching up
16:25:37 <odyssey4me> good feedback :)
16:25:50 <evrardjp> RandomTech: thanks!
16:25:55 <odyssey4me> that said, they are *just* examples - it is not the *only* way
16:25:58 <RandomTech> no problem, still may take me a bit to figure it out fully though. got to get the fsid figured out
16:26:27 <RandomTech> the command given is not agreeing with my shell for some reason
16:26:58 <spotz> RandomTech: Can you bug this? I should have time thi weekend to do some stuff
16:27:16 <RandomTech> i think its something on my end. its not liking str
16:27:29 <odyssey4me> RandomTech you could generate a uuid using anything
16:27:31 <spotz> And I meant the doc confusion:)
16:27:34 <odyssey4me> that's just a suggestion
16:27:58 <RandomTech> wait cant ceph generate one on install?
16:28:18 <odyssey4me> you need it in user_vars because the uuid is fed into the integrations
16:28:27 <odyssey4me> so yes it can, but then it won't feed back into OSa
16:28:32 <RandomTech> ahh okay. sounds good
16:28:45 <RandomTech> thanks guys
16:28:50 <odyssey4me> so you need to generate it first, using anything - even https://www.uuidgenerator.net/ if you like - then put the value in there
16:29:26 <odyssey4me> according to https://serverfault.com/questions/103359/how-to-create-a-uuid-in-bash there is a bash tool too
16:29:46 <evrardjp> any other topic?
16:29:54 <spotz> Yeah it is, we used to have to do it randomly at one place I wirked
16:30:07 <odyssey4me> maybe the docs could provide a few examples of generating one, rather than just one way
16:30:25 <odyssey4me> anyway, time for me to depart - 'night all
16:31:45 <evrardjp> good night odyssey4me !
16:31:49 <evrardjp> I will fix it spotz
16:32:00 <spotz> evrardjp: okie
16:32:05 <evrardjp> ok let's close this up!
16:32:09 <evrardjp> #endmeeting