15:00:50 <mattmceuen> #startmeeting openstack-helm
15:00:51 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jan 30 15:00:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:54 <mattmceuen> #topic rollcall
15:00:54 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'
15:01:10 <srwilkers> o/
15:01:14 <mattmceuen> GM / GE everyone!
15:01:16 <mattmceuen> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-01-30
15:01:22 <jayahn> o/
15:01:27 <mattmceuen> ^ agenda for today - please add in anything else you'd like to discuss
15:02:33 <powerds0111> o/
15:03:17 <mattmceuen> We've had several folks suggest some times for office hours -- https://doodle.com/poll/say7eiy5573vthqe
15:03:25 <mattmceuen> #topic Office Hours
15:03:36 <lamt`> o/
15:04:07 <mattmceuen> As a refresher, last week we discussed trying to set up 2+ different office hours times throughout the week, trying to keep them spaced out to accomodate different time zones
15:04:45 <alanmeadows> o/
15:04:55 <mattmceuen> Anyone else who would be willing to provide (or would benefit from) office hours -- please add on to the doodle poll above
15:05:38 <jayahn> will do some discussion with my team regarding what we can do
15:05:52 <mattmceuen> There's not a lot of overlap in the hours so far :)
15:06:24 <mattmceuen> Friday morning US time works well for several folks, although that turns into Friday evening for some time zones
15:06:26 <roman_g> o/
15:06:45 <portdirect> o/
15:06:51 <gmmaha> o/
15:07:20 <srwilkers> ill adjust my hours as necessary.  i think it'd be equally helpful to have a collection of times that work best for those who would benefit from these hours initially
15:07:29 <srwilkers> if that means late evenings for me, then ive got no issues with that
15:08:45 <mattmceuen> If we could get that Tuesday 4-5 central time slot working for more folks, maybe that plus the Friday one would be a good place to start.
15:09:35 <srwilkers> i can do tuesday 4-5
15:09:41 <mattmceuen> Well we still have a few more responses we need anyway, so let's give it another day or two and then we could discuss results in the chat room.  Sound good?
15:10:00 <mattmceuen> Thanks srwilkers :)
15:10:30 <portdirect> for me the working day may be hard
15:10:44 <portdirect> but can provide any time required before or after
15:11:40 <roman_g> I probably do not need to be counted on, I'm just learning and starting with OSH
15:12:26 <mattmceuen> True, but that also makes you the target audience roman_g!
15:12:45 <mattmceuen> I will take a look too and see what additional hours I can commit to
15:13:04 <mattmceuen> If we can't find two slots that work, we'll pick three slots
15:13:08 <roman_g> form submitted
15:13:52 <mattmceuen> jayahn yeah, please share the link w/ your team, would be very good to know what times are best for them
15:14:21 <mattmceuen> anything else on office hours before we move on?
15:15:00 <srwilkers> can we blast out another email reminder for core members and reach out to them directly about it?
15:15:07 <srwilkers> would be nice to set expectations with the entire core team
15:15:27 <mattmceuen> I have made the rounds and will do so again :)
15:16:02 <mattmceuen> #topic Armada OSH deployment tooling
15:16:11 <mattmceuen> srwilkers -- take it away
15:16:19 <mattmceuen> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535972/
15:16:21 <srwilkers> so the armada gate is almost there
15:16:44 <srwilkers> portdirect left some feedback im going to address after the meeting today, and hoping it'll be good for proper review then
15:17:02 <srwilkers> but this leverages the work portdirect did to set us up to run a memcached and rabbitmq per service
15:17:12 <srwilkers> great work there portdirect :)
15:18:21 <srwilkers> it also deploys the full stack -- the osh-infra LMA bits plus openstack-helm
15:19:03 <srwilkers> also wanted to give a shoutout to jayahn and team -- their TACO scripts got me set on the right path to getting up and running quickly with armada
15:19:21 <jayahn> my pleasure. :)
15:19:52 <srwilkers> thats it for me
15:20:03 <mattmceuen> that's awesome.  Looking forward to giving this a spin srwilkers.  Thanks.
15:20:39 <mattmceuen> #topic PS Needing Reviews
15:20:54 <mattmceuen> In addition to the armada PS above:
15:20:54 <mattmceuen> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534246/
15:20:54 <mattmceuen> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535607/
15:20:54 <mattmceuen> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535222/
15:21:06 <powerds0111> The first PS is a patch to fix errors when upgrade charts.
15:21:28 <mattmceuen> oh hey, first one's already done powerds0111 :)
15:21:33 <mattmceuen> that's fast
15:21:43 <powerds0111> wow
15:21:51 <powerds0111> tanks Pete
15:21:57 <mattmceuen> (thanks tlam & portdirect)
15:22:03 <portdirect> lol - i reviewed it ages ago
15:22:09 <portdirect> just needed workflowed :)
15:22:21 <portdirect> i'd do the last two but i rebased them :(
15:22:32 <srwilkers> im gunna throw this one in, as it aligns with 535222
15:22:33 <srwilkers> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535780/
15:23:04 <srwilkers> also want to apologize about the latency on some of the osh-infra reviews the past week -- things got a little dicey for a few days there
15:23:32 <srwilkers> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538446/ this one too
15:23:56 <mattmceuen> Ha do you want to share a summary of the gate resolution fun in roundtable, srwilkers, or would you prefer to bury it in your subconscious?
15:24:07 <alanmeadows> srwilkers: do we have a firm validated handle on which LMA components require readwriteonce vs readwritemany
15:24:23 <alanmeadows> at this point
15:24:41 <srwilkers> alanmeadows: at the moment, the only component that requires readwritemany is the PVC in elasticsearch for a snapshot repository
15:24:49 <alanmeadows> ok
15:24:49 <srwilkers> which i secretly want to drown in the bathtub
15:25:21 <jayahn> as long as i know, elasticsearch journal for snapshot repo. .. and srwilkers already said
15:25:28 <portdirect> and can we replace that with something else? ie s3?
15:26:49 <srwilkers> ive been looking into it.  seems there are some issues with using the s3 api for radosgw.  im going to dig into it a bit more today
15:27:14 <portdirect> that would be great - thanks dude
15:28:22 <mattmceuen> any other burning PS?
15:28:37 <mattmceuen> Cool.
15:28:45 <mattmceuen> #topic Topics to discuss next time
15:28:51 <mattmceuen> jayahn - you had a suggestion
15:29:07 <mattmceuen> "roadmap for openstack supported version on openstack-helm, especially ocata eol is Feb. 26. sticking to newton is way too old now"
15:29:11 <jayahn> this was a topic we addressed several times before.
15:29:15 <mattmceuen> yep :)
15:29:34 <jayahn> basically, newton is too old at this moment.
15:30:10 <jayahn> although we know osh can handle ocata for sure, and probably pike without too much effort.
15:30:35 <jayahn> but, still official default is newton. IMHO, we really need to bump up the supported version
15:31:18 <mattmceuen> it's primarily a question of defaults and gating -- for now we need to make sure we support these versions and keep pushing the latest release
15:31:19 <jayahn> so, want to make it clear, at least our roadmap to move on the higher openstack version, and clarify what we need to do
15:31:41 <mattmceuen> Cool.  We will discuss plans next week - thanks jayahn
15:31:47 <jayahn> sure.
15:31:59 <mattmceuen> #topic Roundtable
15:32:12 <mattmceuen> Other topics?
15:33:26 <roman_g> Onboarding doc?
15:33:52 <roman_g> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osh-onboarding-brainstorming - this one
15:35:43 <mattmceuen> Yep, that's what the office hours idea came out of, since that idea had the most momentum behind it
15:36:05 <mattmceuen> Any other of the things in that etherpad sound particularly valuable roman_g?
15:36:17 <mattmceuen> (or if you have additional ideas - please feel free to add them in)
15:37:09 <roman_g> "OpenStack University for folks new to OpenStack" - what was that about?
15:37:50 <roman_g> Animations are good, but a) expensive to create, and b) harder to keep updated
15:38:10 <portdirect> its a course run by the openstack foundation to onboard people to openstack development
15:38:18 <jayahn> https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/openstack-academy/
15:38:18 <roman_g> "Enhance/harden our existing docs" is always valuable
15:38:26 <mattmceuen> +1
15:39:00 <mattmceuen> Aren't the openstack university training materials themselves open source?  Anyone have a link to them?
15:39:17 <portdirect> just the docs website
15:39:18 <portdirect> 2 sec
15:39:35 <portdirect> https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/upstream-training-content.html
15:40:09 <jayahn> just quick question. openstack-helm hands-on workshop has been a part of openstack academy?
15:40:34 <portdirect> not yet :)
15:40:41 <portdirect> they still use devstack atm
15:41:00 <portdirect> which makes sense considering the focus is primarily on openstack project development
15:41:13 <roman_g> "All participants must be registered attendees of the Sydney Summit." - doesn't look like materials are published
15:41:26 <portdirect> they are roman_g :) the link above
15:41:44 <portdirect> but to attend you need to be at a summit..
15:42:21 <mattmceuen> thanks for sharing those portdirect, that's a great link to share with openstack newbies
15:42:49 <mattmceuen> Other roundtable topics?
15:43:52 <roman_g> portdirect, thank you, that's really content of the course, and yes, it is targeted to devs
15:43:56 <roman_g> No other topics
15:44:33 <roman_g> Add OSH to academy docs?
15:45:19 <mattmceuen> I think that's a great goal to shoot for - we're on the right trajectory to get OSH positioned for that.
15:46:13 <mattmceuen> Alright all - have a great week, see you in IRC!
15:46:19 <mattmceuen> #endmeeting