15:00:14 <gagehugo> #startmeeting openstack-helm
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15:00:25 <gagehugo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2020-03-17 agenda
15:01:07 <stevthedev> Good morning
15:01:13 <gagehugo> o/
15:03:08 <megheisler> \o
15:03:15 <lamt> o/
15:04:31 <portdirect> o/
15:04:37 <portdirect> hey - sorry im late
15:04:53 <gagehugo> no worries
15:05:14 <gagehugo> #topic Midcycle virtual PTG
15:05:52 <gagehugo> So due to the lack of responses for time, this time next week is probably one of the better times to host this
15:06:26 <gagehugo> Was looking at 1400-1700 UTC (0900 to 1200) for central time folks
15:06:37 <gagehugo> On the 24th
15:06:47 <gagehugo> Any objections/opinions to this?
15:07:36 <megheisler> sounds good to me
15:08:04 <stevthedev> Works for me as well
15:08:31 <portdirect> wfm :D
15:09:13 <gagehugo> I'll send out an email announcing this timeslot
15:09:20 <gagehugo> was also just going to use webex, as it's pretty simple
15:09:42 <portdirect> sounds good
15:09:52 <gagehugo> #topic loci
15:10:06 <gagehugo> portdirect: I assume this is you?
15:10:13 <portdirect> yes
15:10:31 <portdirect> so OSH is very dependent on LOCI
15:10:43 <portdirect> however LOCI has not been well recently
15:10:57 <portdirect> for various reasons we lost virtually all the cores on the project
15:11:25 <portdirect> and I also am lacking the time to put into it that it deserves
15:11:51 <portdirect> in the past chris hoge proposed that osh absorbed loci
15:12:24 <portdirect> and we collectivley felt that it was worth giving it another shot at surviving as an independant project
15:12:35 <portdirect> unfortuanly thats proven not to really be viable
15:12:55 <portdirect> as a result, i'd like to propose again to the OSH community that we absorb LOCI
15:13:14 <portdirect> any thoughts?
15:13:41 <gagehugo> I think with the current situation and our dependence on it, that's probably a good idea at this point
15:13:42 <lamt> I support it
15:13:58 <portdirect> stevthedev / megheisler ?
15:14:19 <lamt> LOCI patches often hold up fixes in the OSH-images repo
15:14:40 <megheisler> I'm not sure what LOCI is to be honest but don't see and issue absorbing it if it's not otherwise being taken care of
15:14:52 <roman_g> Q: What needs to be done for LOCI to maintain it, and what are the needs of LOCI on development side? In short.
15:15:04 <megheisler> especially if we rely heavily on it
15:15:28 <portdirect> roman_g: not that much! the project is very mature, hence the low rate of changes proposed to it
15:15:41 <portdirect> with regard to the development side - just docker, and git :D
15:16:05 <roman_g> Q2: could maintenance of LOCI be split and moved into each component's repo?
15:16:21 <lamt> or add osh cores to the loci repo?
15:16:41 <portdirect> roman_g: that was the original intent of loci - but in practive makes little sense
15:16:52 <portdirect> its a single dockerfile that can build any openstack project
15:17:24 <portdirect> lamt: i think rather than a core injection, moving under goverenance of the one project that activly consumes it makes sense
15:17:36 <roman_g> portdirect: yes, but gates are separate
15:18:19 <portdirect> roman_g: note we currently dont actually gate loci images, other than for 'do they build'
15:18:47 <portdirect> but we also build them twice - once in loci, and then again in osh-images
15:19:55 <roman_g> portdirect: hmm. Thank you for explanation.
15:20:03 <portdirect> ok - I'll talk to the tc, and then get somthing out to the ml with their feedback
15:20:07 * roman_g looks at https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/loci
15:20:35 <gagehugo> cool
15:20:39 <gagehugo> thanks portdirect
15:20:48 <gagehugo> #topic open discussion
15:21:00 <gagehugo> Does anyone else have anything they want to discuss? reviews?
15:21:23 <portdirect> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709114/ really needs some eyes
15:21:55 <portdirect> im not sure how i feel about it to be honest
15:22:06 <portdirect> in that for keystone etc - we have never needed it
15:22:35 <portdirect> and it introduces some opinionation to apache configs - potentially making over-rides etc harder
15:24:04 <gagehugo> hmm
15:24:21 <stevthedev> most LMA charts have an httpd configuration which is a lot of boilerplate - although there are some chart specific directives included. Sourcing the boilerplate from htk might clean things up
15:24:59 <portdirect> lets get this convo into gerrit
15:25:07 <lamt> not sure about security setting though
15:25:29 <portdirect> the authors really deserve both the feedback, and to be looped into this convo
15:26:07 <gagehugo> ++
15:26:56 <gagehugo> Anything else for this week? Otherwise we can end early
15:28:55 <stevthedev> Sorry I was on another call during this discussion, but interested to hear back from LOCI tc and the direction we move with it
15:29:16 <gagehugo> double booked :)
15:30:45 <gagehugo> thanks everyone, have a good week
15:30:49 <gagehugo> #endmeeting