15:00:19 #startmeeting openstack-helm 15:00:20 Meeting started Tue Mar 31 15:00:19 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:23 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' 15:00:42 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2020-03-31 agenda 15:01:51 o/ 15:05:00 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2020-03-31 agenda btw 15:06:07 #topic Meeting is now in #openstack-meeting-alt 15:06:25 The openstack-meeting-4 room is being closed down, we've been moved here now 15:06:34 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack-Helm_Team_Meeting 15:07:45 o/ 15:08:04 So future meetings will be here, feel free to leave the old room 15:08:28 o/ 15:08:45 #topic Topics from virtual midcycle that warrented some more discussion 15:09:04 So last week we had our virtual midcycle 15:09:32 Managed to cover quite a few topics, got some good discussion 15:10:47 The audience tapered down towards the end however, and there were a few topics that we would have liked a bit more people on for 15:10:59 Was hoping we could cover them at least quickly this week if possible 15:11:29 Any thoughts about them? 15:12:06 I know a few people are probably missing for the airship midcycle, not sure if we want to wait or just discuss 15:12:33 I think the osh-addons topic probably should wait until next week 15:12:46 since we would like to discuss with airship on that one 15:12:47 o/ sorry am late - didn't know the meeting room changed 15:13:54 gagehugo do you have a link to the midcycle etherpad handy? 15:14:10 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osh-virtual-ptg-2020-03 15:14:14 ^ 15:14:23 thx 15:16:17 We did cover a lot 15:16:33 we did 15:17:57 Regarding the last point on today's etherpad, is 'Basic k8s requirements' do you mean docs for the basic set up? 15:18:07 yes 15:18:27 also trying to make osh more approachable 15:18:39 by say supporting minikube directy 15:18:41 That's a good goal 15:20:05 There are a few people onboarding at att right now who will probably be dipping their toes into osh soon 15:20:21 We were also looking at more discussion around ARGO workflows possibly in the future, as well as the current movement with headless services in ingress 15:21:40 If anyone has any opinions on those 15:22:21 Do you know where I can read more about why we are moving ingress to a headless service? What are the advantages and motivations 15:22:56 re headless - the goal is to make requests simpler to trace 15:23:20 ie avoid all the iptables crazyness that occurs with k8s-proxy when run in ibtables mode 15:23:24 *iptables 15:23:38 we should ask, if we run in ipvs mode, is this required? 15:23:54 and also - frankly is it requred at all? 15:24:06 this has been a topic of conversation for ~1 year 15:24:11 yes lol 15:24:11 and is a couple of days work 15:24:57 I believe there are ps out for this, but it changes the default behavior 15:25:04 so it's held off for now 15:25:14 to see (if needed) 15:26:51 which I assume we should find that out as a next step 15:27:17 o/ 15:27:29 srwilkers o/ 15:27:46 \o 15:28:31 o/ 15:28:54 srwilkers: Did you bring up the argo workflow topic last week? 15:29:03 yeah, I think that was me 15:30:40 What was the ask for that? I've slept since last Tue haha 15:31:18 I can't even recall - I think it was just to follow up and see if anymore work or thought had be given to it. I think there's still a PoC for an argo chart and some other work aroound in gerrit 15:31:32 i think the time has somewhat passed there 15:32:03 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/636346/ 15:32:14 in that the original goal of permitting greater flexibility has been proven out through the job based approach we have today 15:32:15 almost a year old now 15:32:46 and the primary users of osh that i know of are not pushing for it for openstack atm 15:33:32 makes sense 15:36:30 Does anyone else have anything to discuss about last weeks midcycle? 15:38:44 re: too many checks 15:39:32 Do we want to decide on a few to move to experimental? 15:39:46 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713917/7/zuul.d/project.yaml 15:39:53 whoops 15:39:57 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713917/ 15:40:25 Has similar been made for osh-infra? 15:41:18 Not yet 15:41:30 iirc we discussed moving federated monitoring and kafka to experimental 15:42:42 I'll create a PS to do that, we can start from there? 15:42:55 sure 15:43:23 I can help out as wel 15:44:28 We can move the netpol and apparmor checks to experimental as well to match lamt's ps 15:45:36 I'll look into those if you wanna tackle Kafka then stevthedev 15:46:00 megheisler stevthedev: cool 15:46:11 sounds good 15:47:05 #topic open discussion 15:47:14 Anyone have anything else to discuss for this week? 15:47:55 I'll plea for reviews 15:47:59 fluentd prometheus plugin: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/714168/ 15:48:28 Elasticsearch Secret Vars: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712780/ 15:48:44 Prometheus & Grafana - Feature Gate Compatibility: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701839/ 15:49:00 Stuff's been sitting out for a while 15:49:07 (the last two anyway) 15:49:40 sure 15:50:02 Thanks. Other than that, hope everyone is holding up okay wfh 15:50:29 been weird lately 15:50:45 It's been an odd couple of weeks now 15:50:54 yep, hope people are doing alright, stay safe my friends 15:53:03 thanks everyone, stay safe, have a good week 15:53:07 #endmeeting