15:00:10 <gagehugo> #startmeeting openstack-helm 15:00:11 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 22 15:00:10 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:12 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:14 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' 15:00:18 <gagehugo> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda 15:00:20 <gagehugo> o/ 15:00:28 <megheisler> \o 15:00:41 <lamt> o/ 15:00:48 <miniroy> \o 15:05:25 <gagehugo> #topic wording changes for docs 15:05:49 <gagehugo> megheisler: was this you? 15:05:58 <megheisler> yeah, sorry forgot to put name 15:06:26 <gagehugo> no worries 15:06:44 <megheisler> but the Diversity wg had their meeting yesterday where it was discussed that the board is making efforts to change some problematic wording 15:07:01 <gagehugo> Is this the email? 15:07:02 <gagehugo> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017375.html 15:07:34 <megheisler> yep! So that meeting happened yesterday 15:08:03 <miniroy> I feel very "divided" on this topic naturally 15:08:03 <lamt> would this be find-and-replace only? 15:08:21 <megheisler> it's up to individual projects to decide if they're are tackling the issue but we have to evaluate how much effort it takes 15:08:49 <gagehugo> If that's the direction the opendev community is going, then we can follow suit 15:09:17 <gagehugo> megheisler: is this something you'd be interested in evaluating for OSH? 15:09:31 <gagehugo> I honestly have no idea how much we use the terms in that etherpad 15:09:42 <megheisler> yeah, I've started going through things and would be happy to head the effort 15:09:57 <lamt> cool 15:10:04 <gagehugo> awesome 15:10:42 <gagehugo> thanks megheisler! 15:10:59 <gagehugo> #topic Sync logging values with upstream repos 15:11:17 <gagehugo> This ps was put below the agenda for today so I assume someone wants to discuss? 15:11:19 <gagehugo> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/751896/ 15:12:04 <gagehugo> I think we discussed this last week too 15:12:57 <megheisler> looks like it's merged so not sure what else there is to talk about 15:13:18 <gagehugo> yeah 15:13:39 <gagehugo> Feel free to ping me if anyone wanted to discuss that in #openstack-helm 15:13:46 <gagehugo> #topic libvirt TLS 15:13:55 <gagehugo> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752125/ 15:14:04 <gagehugo> lamt: I am curious about the approach here 15:14:38 <lamt> I believe an attempt was made a few years ago 15:15:16 <lamt> to secure the connection and the idea was to use socket instead of http/tcp 15:15:29 <lamt> I have to find that patch 15:16:03 <lamt> but there is probably a need to TLS libvirt 15:16:15 <lamt> or a want 15:16:28 <lamt> I will have to look at the patch 15:16:33 <gagehugo> Yeah, TLS'ing libvirt seems fine 15:16:50 <gagehugo> I have concerns about having libvirt use an entirely different mechanism for TLS'ing than the rest of OSH though 15:17:38 <gagehugo> I don't see a flag for enabling/disabling it atm 15:17:49 <gagehugo> I'll leave a comment on the ps and we can continue conversation there 15:18:11 <lamt> sure - but one can argue why would we want an insecure deployment at the first place 15:18:33 <gagehugo> better performance? 15:18:47 <lamt> wouldn't using socket be less messy than dealing with all the internal certs? 15:18:54 <miniroy> is there not an existing gate for TLS already? 15:18:56 <gagehugo> probably tbh 15:19:14 <lamt> Andrii has activated one I believe 15:19:23 <lamt> as experimental 15:19:33 <miniroy> so is there a new to create a seperate gate here? 15:20:00 <gagehugo> I think the plan is to enable TLS on the default gates 15:20:06 <gagehugo> we need to move to better nodesets however 15:20:21 <lamt> or... 15:20:22 <gagehugo> the 8gb ones seem to be pushed to their limits with TLS on 15:20:28 <lamt> we fix that multinode gate ;) 15:21:16 <gagehugo> That too 15:22:16 <gagehugo> Anyway, lets continue the conversation on that ps (and fix the gates too) 15:22:22 <gagehugo> #topic open discussion 15:22:28 <gagehugo> Anyone have anything else for this week? 15:25:24 <gagehugo> thanks everyone, have a good week! 15:25:26 <gagehugo> #endmeeting