00:03:05 <Daisy_> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting 00:03:06 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Mar 20 00:03:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:03:07 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:03:09 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' 00:03:27 <Daisy_> epico: how is the message ID progress? 00:03:51 <epico> Daisy_: I commented it. 00:03:58 <Daisy_> since only us, let's talk about the blueprint message ID. 00:04:07 <Daisy_> can you give me a link? 00:04:10 <epico> okay 00:04:30 <Daisy_> are you able to go the summit this time? 00:04:44 <epico> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-id 00:04:49 <epico> not, I think. 00:06:07 <Daisy_> What's your point in the blueprint? 00:07:02 <Daisy_> I think, some people don't agree with this one: filename#methodname#lineno, right? 00:07:20 <epico> I think the message id generation is hard to meet all requirements, so maybe just return the English version is okay. 00:07:34 <Daisy_> hehe. 00:07:34 <epico> yes, some one dis-agree with it. 00:07:49 <Daisy_> epico: how do you think of error code instead of message id? 00:09:17 <epico> Daisy_, will we need to manually maintain an error code list? 00:10:21 <Daisy_> I haven't thought much details. Error code and its docs could be generated automatically. 00:11:05 <Daisy_> if we use some special tag, and extract tag and comments into a document, I think, it will help. 00:11:38 <epico> I saw some commercial software did this, but they have a long list of error code, and developer need to check the doc every time. 00:11:50 <Daisy_> ok. You don't like it? 00:11:54 <epico> just some random thought, bicbw. 00:11:58 <Daisy_> hehe 00:12:07 <epico> not 00:12:19 <Daisy_> it looks like UTC 0000 maybe too early for some people to get in. 00:12:45 <Daisy_> I'm going to start the discussion about meeting and time in our ML. 00:12:47 <epico> the problem is when developers return the error code, need to check the list to return the code. 00:12:55 <epico> Daisy_, great 00:13:07 <Daisy_> yes, you are right. 00:13:28 <Daisy_> The exception name can help, other than a exception number. 00:13:39 <epico> maybe 00:13:52 <Daisy_> So maybe an error code in a text format may help other than numbers. 00:14:14 <epico> still a list to check in order to find the right one... 00:14:25 <Daisy_> Yes. 00:14:27 <epico> or just English one. ;) 00:14:36 <Daisy_> hehe. 00:14:49 <Daisy_> epico, I have to close this meeting if nobody else join. 00:15:01 <epico> no problem 00:15:24 <Daisy_> Thank you for joining. We can continue the discussion about IDs off line. 00:15:29 <epico> thanks 00:15:40 <Daisy_> Thank you. 00:15:43 <Daisy_> #endmeeting