06:00:27 <katomo> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting
06:00:27 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jun  2 06:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is katomo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:00:30 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'
06:00:34 <katomo> anyone here?
06:08:03 <zhurong> 0/
06:08:20 <katomo> hi
06:08:35 <katomo> Daisy: is here?
06:09:22 <Daisy> Yes
06:09:44 <katomo> okay, we have 3 attendee
06:09:44 <ujuc> 0/
06:09:54 <katomo> hi ujuc
06:09:56 <Daisy> including you, we have 4. :)
06:10:18 <katomo> let's start
06:10:23 <Daisy> ok
06:10:37 <katomo> #topic bug squash
06:10:44 <katomo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/
06:10:54 <katomo> we have 16 open bugs
06:11:39 <katomo> Daisy: 7 are simplified-chinese bugs. can you take a look at?
06:11:52 <Daisy> ok. katomo. I will do that.
06:12:18 <katomo> ujuc: there are 2 korean bugs
06:12:24 <katomo> thanks, Daisy
06:12:35 <ujuc> um!
06:12:41 <ujuc> ok :)
06:12:56 <katomo> thanks
06:13:14 <katomo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1586041
06:13:15 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1586041 in openstack i18n "Incorrect PO-Revision-Date in some translation files for aodh project" [Undecided,New]
06:13:26 <katomo> "Incorrect PO-Revision-Date in some translation files for aodh project"
06:13:33 <katomo> aga.
06:13:46 <katomo> bot echoed :)
06:14:01 <katomo> I don't have a solution
06:14:17 <katomo> can anyone take a look?
06:14:35 <Daisy> aeng: can you help ?
06:14:42 <amotoki> before it was filed I was asked in -i18n channel and reported it to the ml, but there is no response.
06:14:53 <aeng> katomo, whats the issue?
06:14:55 <amotoki> I haven't investigated the detail too.
06:14:57 <katomo> hi amotoki
06:15:07 <Daisy> amotoki: is it a problem of Zanata ?
06:15:15 <amotoki> not sure
06:15:18 <Daisy> I mean, a config issue of Zanata ?
06:15:21 <katomo> I checked a little, but I can find a cause......
06:15:29 <katomo> * cannot
06:15:31 <ianychoi> sorry for coming late :)
06:15:40 <Daisy> aeng: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1586041
06:15:40 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1586041 in openstack i18n "Incorrect PO-Revision-Date in some translation files for aodh project" [Undecided,New]
06:15:46 <katomo> hi ianychoi
06:15:54 <ianychoi> hi katomo!
06:16:12 * aeng looking
06:16:21 <Daisy> Thank you, aeng
06:16:32 <katomo> aeng: thanks
06:18:15 <katomo> any other bugs to discuss?
06:18:30 <aeng> hmmm..... yes, empty PO-Revision-Date
06:19:25 <Daisy> katomo: I don't have.
06:19:45 <katomo> hm
06:20:45 <aeng> how those translation got into Zanata?
06:20:51 <aeng> is it translated in Zanata?
06:23:05 <Daisy> aeng: I think it's in the header of po file.
06:23:15 <ianychoi> Hmm... when we download po files from Zanata, its header says "X-Generator: Zanata 3.7.3\n"
06:23:19 <Daisy> aeng: look at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/aodh/tree/aodh/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/aodh.po
06:27:14 <Daisy> katomo: any other topics today ?
06:27:37 <katomo> I don't have
06:27:49 <aeng> ok, i will need more time to look at it
06:27:56 <aeng> will update you guys
06:27:56 <amotoki> oh... no topic is used :)
06:27:56 <Daisy> Thank you, aeng
06:27:58 <katomo> thanks
06:28:26 <katomo> #topic open discussions
06:28:37 <ianychoi> Thanks
06:28:40 <katomo> any topic?
06:28:47 <ianychoi> Meeting time?
06:28:57 <katomo> yeah
06:29:03 <Daisy> katomo: I wonder if we need some guidances for new translators to guide them how to show their contributions in stacklytis.
06:29:31 <katomo> Daisy: good point
06:29:33 <Daisy> I don't know the specific steps to show a translator contribution in stackalytics
06:29:49 <Daisy> does the translator need to do nothing ?
06:29:52 <ianychoi> #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/i18n/translation_stats.html#stackalytics
06:30:06 <ianychoi> amotoki updated :)
06:30:11 <aeng> i think at the moment, its still using the user- list
06:30:27 <aeng> so probably thats all they need to do.. update the list
06:30:38 <amotoki> ianychoi: thanks
06:30:41 <Daisy> Thank you, ianychoi. Very useful.
06:30:47 <Daisy> thank you, amotoki
06:30:49 <katomo> Also, we need to update the traslators list manually....
06:31:00 <amotoki> FYI: stackalytics stats is now fixed.
06:31:12 <aeng> Awesome!
06:31:17 <ianychoi> :)
06:31:20 <katomo> new version of Zanata doesn't work at now....
06:31:34 <katomo> amotoki: great
06:31:46 <amotoki> katomo: could you elaborate more?
06:31:47 <aeng> new version of Zanata?
06:32:00 <amotoki> new version of zanata/
06:32:07 <amotoki> s|/|?|
06:32:12 <ianychoi> When can we see newer version of Zanata (e.g., 3.9.0) on translate-dev.openstack.org?
06:32:30 <katomo> we have a plan to upgrade Zanata
06:32:52 <aeng> i think infra team has planned for it
06:32:53 <katomo> to get the translators list with email for Stackalytics
06:32:59 <katomo> right?
06:33:15 <aeng> katomo, correct with latest version of Zanata
06:33:58 <amotoki> why do we need email for Stackalytics?
06:34:00 <katomo> It needs java 8, but our infra does not provide java 8 because of ubuntu 14.04
06:34:14 <aeng> yup, so they are working on that
06:34:18 <katomo> so, we need to wait ubuntu 16.04, IIRC.
06:34:37 <katomo> yep
06:34:55 <katomo> infra team need more time
06:35:54 <katomo> ianychoi: I will email about meeting time
06:35:56 <ianychoi> Aha... I see. In fact AFAIK only zanata user IDs are used in Stackalytics (no email)
06:36:17 <aeng> alright.. might have found the problem with empty PO-Revision-Date
06:36:25 <katomo> later to be fair for folks in other timezones
06:36:43 <katomo> aeng: hmmm
06:36:52 <aeng> might be a bug with Zanata
06:36:54 <amotoki> what are we talking about now?
06:37:02 <amotoki> Zanata? meeting time?
06:37:16 <aeng> but if translations is being updated manually in Zanata, the PO-Revision-Date will be updated accordingly
06:37:34 <katomo> amotoki: empty PO-Revision-Date :)
06:38:00 <aeng> i will check and update the ticket
06:38:02 <katomo> I think finished talk about zanata and meeting time
06:38:10 <aeng> :)
06:38:13 <ianychoi> +1
06:38:18 <amotoki> katomo: thanks. i would suggest to use 'topic' from the next meeting.
06:38:43 <amotoki> Re email, IMO we should not expose email addresses thru API unless we use it.
06:38:45 <Daisy> aeng: how long do you need to fix the issue? Do you suggest a by pass method to resolve this issue ?
06:39:08 <aeng> workaround... update the translations manually at the moment in Zanata
06:39:11 <katomo> amotoki: topic "open discussions" is too broad :
06:39:18 <Daisy> aeng: I don't think the bug reporter can wait for the upgrade of Zanata.
06:39:23 <aeng> hmmmm
06:39:34 <katomo> Daisy:  I agree
06:39:42 <aeng> alright... let me get more details out and update the tickets
06:39:46 <Daisy> aeng: what do you mean by updating manually? Updating a translation ?
06:39:54 <aeng> Daisy, yes
06:40:12 <aeng> not all translations.. just 1 in each file
06:40:34 <aeng> so just update 1 translations in each document.. that will generate the header correctly
06:41:07 <Daisy> ok. katomo I think we can temporarily fix the issue in project aodh.
06:41:17 <Daisy> aeng: any languages ?
06:41:24 <katomo> good news
06:41:30 <Daisy> aeng: or all languages ?
06:41:30 <aeng> all languages
06:41:34 <Daisy> ok.
06:42:19 <katomo> can you explain the detailed step?
06:42:31 <katomo> If long, please email later.
06:43:20 <aeng> so, in summary, in each languages, on each document, just update a translation
06:43:37 <katomo> on Zanata?
06:43:41 <aeng> yes
06:43:46 <katomo> ahh
06:43:56 <katomo> it is easy, but many:)
06:44:07 <aeng> yup... but thats the only workaround right now
06:44:11 <Daisy> Yeah, katomo. Time consuming.
06:44:56 <katomo> okay, I can do it with my admin previledge, and I will do it...
06:45:23 <Daisy> Thank you, katomo.
06:45:35 <Daisy> Only admin have the right to update any languages.
06:46:11 <katomo> yep
06:46:23 <katomo> any other topic?
06:46:30 <Daisy> No from me.
06:46:37 <aeng> all good from me
06:46:41 <amotoki> re topic, let's use etherpad agenda
06:46:53 <amotoki> for realtime topic update.
06:46:53 <katomo> sure
06:47:14 <amotoki> you can coordinate various topics and reorg during a meeting :)
06:47:25 <aeng> +1
06:47:31 <katomo> we have a blank page https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-meeting !
06:47:40 <amotoki> blank page @@
06:47:40 <aeng> hahah
06:47:48 <aeng> ready to be filled
06:48:18 <aeng> anyways... i gtg now. katomo if you have any question on that workaround.. let me know.
06:48:26 <aeng> see ya guys
06:48:30 <katomo> aeng: thanks
06:48:31 <Daisy> aeng: thank you.
06:48:38 <katomo> okay, end the meeting
06:48:41 <amotoki> finally, i have one request. could anyone update the status of documents of openstack-manuals?
06:48:49 <katomo> hm
06:48:55 <amotoki> which manual are ready for translation? i have no information
06:49:24 <katomo> amotoki: I'll take it.
06:49:33 <amotoki> for example, doc team is planning to reorg docs. if so there is no meaning to translation such documents.
06:49:34 <katomo> we have a wiki page, but it is old, I think.
06:49:48 <amotoki> katomo: thanks. etherpad might work.
06:49:49 <katomo> yeah
06:50:04 <amotoki> that's all from me
06:50:08 <katomo> good. I will use etherpad
06:50:34 <Daisy> From the home page of Zanata, I see: the installation guide, user guide, api guide. Is the translation plan in home page up to date ?
06:50:49 <katomo> yeah, it is up to date.
06:50:56 <Daisy> ok. katomo
06:51:24 <katomo> okay, thanks to join the meeting, all.
06:51:49 <katomo> #endmeeting