13:03:06 <katomo> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting
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13:03:18 <ianychoi_phone> Hi
13:03:24 <katomo> anyone here for i18n meeting?
13:03:26 <katomo> Hi
13:04:25 <ianychoi_phone> I am going to home. I will be okay in 10 mins ;)
13:04:37 <katomo> seems 2 people
13:04:43 <ianychoi_phone> Yep..
13:04:57 <katomo> ianychoi_phone: do you have any topic to discuss?
13:07:12 <ianychoi_phone> katomo: yep a little but i am going to home... Kk
13:07:32 <ianychoi_phone> In about 5 mins later I am fine to chat here
13:07:52 <ianychoi_phone> Sorry for that
13:07:54 <katomo> okay. let's chat later.
13:14:11 <ianychoi> katomo, i am back :)
13:14:23 <ianychoi> Hmm.. still two people :)
13:14:50 <katomo> hmm
13:15:00 <ianychoi> I would like talk first our i18n meeting time and reminder e-mail.
13:15:35 <ianychoi> Can I use #topic for this topic?
13:15:42 <katomo> yep
13:15:57 <ianychoi> #topic i18n meeting time and reminder
13:16:18 <ianychoi> Hmm.. bot does not work properly..
13:16:30 <katomo> #topic i18n meeting time and reminder
13:16:43 <ianychoi> Aha.. thanks!
13:17:04 <ianychoi> I think a few months ago, we discussed better time for i18n meeting
13:17:24 <ianychoi> But we still use 1st and 3rd weeks..
13:17:29 <katomo> yeah
13:17:39 <katomo> hmmm
13:18:01 <ianychoi> How do you think about this? Should we need more discussion on mailing list, or keeping current status would be fine?
13:18:41 <ianychoi> I am not sure, but no reminder on i18n mailing list would be one of reasons why less people are attending i18n IRC meeting...
13:18:44 <katomo> Since we have recently very few attendance, I think it is better to change the meeting time
13:18:52 <katomo> it is my fault
13:19:01 <ianychoi> That's fine :)
13:19:19 <ianychoi> We can think about how we make better things :)
13:19:26 <katomo> however, we are in PTL election for next cycle...
13:19:44 <ianychoi> Hmm.. will you apply PTL ?
13:20:29 <ianychoi> It seems that daisy moved to another IBM team and the team does not focus on OpenStack..
13:20:38 <katomo> to be very honest, i'm not sure as of now. i'm very busy at now in my businees.
13:20:55 <katomo> aga
13:21:07 <katomo> hmmm
13:21:10 <katomo> do you?
13:21:20 <ianychoi> I would like to help current situation better..
13:22:20 <ianychoi> I am not so familiar with lots of details.. It means that I do not know much details of how i18n is working with many other aspects.
13:22:23 <katomo> okay, any way... I must e-mail as reminder for next time.
13:23:12 <katomo> yeah, it is difficult...
13:23:21 <ianychoi> Thanks to a lot of helps from you Daisy, Akihiro-san, I am getting more familiar with them. But I am not a guru..
13:23:45 <katomo> me too :)
13:24:09 <ianychoi> You are truly guru and also my best mentor from Tokyo upstream training :)
13:25:04 <ianychoi> Hmm yep
13:25:20 <ianychoi> Anyway, then, what would be the next meeting schedule?
13:25:22 <katomo> thanks
13:25:44 <ianychoi> Let's see previous e-mails...
13:26:06 <katomo> Oct 6 UTC 6:00
13:27:16 <ianychoi> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-May/002213.html
13:27:26 <ianychoi> Then, we finalized to choose option 3?
13:28:31 <katomo> yes
13:30:08 <ianychoi> But according to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-June/002220.html , French team prefers to 8 UTC than 6 UTC..
13:30:10 <katomo> I will reconsider...
13:30:19 <katomo> yeah
13:31:20 <ianychoi> And keeping 12 hours means that 6 UTC would be better?
13:31:52 <katomo> I think so, but it does not work well...
13:32:07 <katomo> it is worth to try 8 UTC
13:32:45 <ianychoi> Yep AFAIK docs team irc meeting has 5 hour differences
13:32:47 <katomo> how do you think?
13:32:50 <ianychoi> So that would be also fine for us
13:33:01 <katomo> yep
13:33:19 <ianychoi> Let's change IRC meeting time for better participation :)
13:33:34 <katomo> +1
13:34:02 <katomo> do you have any other topic?
13:34:11 <ianychoi> And meeting schedule.. 1st and 3rd weeks every month vs. alternating weeks..
13:34:52 <katomo> ah
13:35:05 <ianychoi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-June/002220.html
13:35:06 <katomo> also, i think it is better to use alternating weeks
13:35:19 <ianychoi> +1 :)
13:35:35 <katomo> good
13:35:50 <ianychoi> Okay... :)
13:36:17 <ianychoi> I have two more topics 1) stable-newton branch and 2) release-note translation
13:36:20 <katomo> let's use bi-weekly UTC 8:00 and UTC 13:00
13:36:31 <ianychoi> Okay +1 :)
13:36:42 <katomo> #topic stable-newton branch
13:37:05 <ianychoi> #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html
13:37:53 <ianychoi> Sep 12-16 is Hard string freeze. So we might check string freeze status of Horizon-related projects and make stable-newton branch on Zanata
13:39:39 <ianychoi> How is Japanese horizon translations going? In Korea, ujuc and me try to encourage more participations on Horizon translation.
13:40:30 <ianychoi> And a good news is one translator from Red Hat AU recently joined to i18n Korean team, who also know Alex and Carlos :)
13:40:48 <katomo> nice
13:41:32 <katomo> Japanese translation for master is undergoing for Newton
13:42:17 <ianychoi> Yep. Then what time will it be good to create stable-newton branch in Zanata?
13:42:50 <katomo> I will comfirm when we will have stable-newton branch.
13:43:10 <katomo> Unfortunately, i don't know at now.
13:44:21 <ianychoi> Hmm.. we had a kind of liason for some Horizon related project teams and i18n.
13:45:29 <ianychoi> Let's find and ask on i18n mailing list :)
13:45:34 <ianychoi> Can I write it?
13:45:40 <katomo> sure
13:45:50 <katomo> #topic release-note translation
13:46:11 <katomo> we have translation resource at Zanata now.
13:46:33 <katomo> I need to create a patch to publish it.
13:46:42 <ianychoi> Aha.. I see
13:47:09 <katomo> any question?
13:47:16 <ianychoi> What would be a criteria to include publish? For example, >75% for all release notes on all projects?
13:47:46 <katomo> 75% same as other resources, as of now.
13:47:58 <ianychoi> I am not sure but use of draft pages would be fine..
13:48:17 <katomo> hmmm, draft...
13:48:20 <ianychoi> And what if >75% for just Horizon?
13:48:34 <ianychoi> Will it be published just for Horizon release notes?
13:48:51 <katomo> >75% for all
13:49:14 <katomo> no
13:49:48 <katomo> each resource >75% independently.
13:49:52 <ianychoi> I think >75% always for release notes might be too difficult..
13:50:34 <ianychoi> Although some release notes for one language is > 75% for Newton, after a few months later, the ratio would be less than <75%
13:51:32 <ianychoi> Anyway it is not a main issue. I wanted to know when release notes publish will be ready :)
13:53:58 <katomo> okay, I will try at this weekend.
13:54:16 <ianychoi> katomo, thanks a lot. Wow :)
13:54:21 <ianychoi> Ah.. and a question: the room allocation for i18n team on Barcelona is finalized?
13:54:42 <katomo> yes
13:55:15 <ianychoi> Wow good. When will we have? Friday morning and afternoon?
13:55:18 <katomo> we have 1 contributors meetup.
13:56:31 <ianychoi> And for "1 workroom session"?
13:56:40 <katomo> afternoon
13:56:56 <ianychoi> Aha.. all will be on Friday.. thanks
13:57:16 <katomo> unfortunately, we don't have "workroom session"...
13:57:28 <ianychoi> Aha.... I see :)
13:57:42 <ianychoi> just 1 contributor meetup on Friday afternoon..
13:58:17 <ianychoi> Actually I am also busy on my own business, but I will try to go for Barcelona just on Friday
13:58:37 <ianychoi> And what if no PTL nomination on i18n team?
13:58:52 <ianychoi> You will be PTL for Ocata? :)
13:59:08 <katomo> TC will appoint.
13:59:45 <ianychoi> Okay.. time is going to end. Let's finish :)
14:00:10 <katomo> yes, thanks to join the meeting, ianychoi
14:00:27 <katomo> #endmeeting