07:22:02 <ianychoi> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting
07:22:03 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jan 12 07:22:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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07:22:06 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'
07:22:08 <jftalta> iany hoi,hi
07:22:31 <eumel8> hi, ianychoi, jftalta, katomo
07:22:43 <jftalta> hi eumel8
07:22:43 <ianychoi> Sorry for starting I18n meeting late.
07:22:57 <eumel8> np
07:23:13 <jftalta> neither for me
07:24:01 <ianychoi> #review Review on last meeting actions
07:24:10 <ianychoi> #topic Review on last meeting actions
07:25:19 <ianychoi> eumel8, I have heard from clarkb that there is no database backup procedure in infra but we can improve puppet script to enable backup
07:26:07 <eumel8> ianychoi: that was also my impression
07:26:16 <ianychoi> jftalta, sorry for my patch for revising French page with theme. I will do it today :)
07:26:29 <jftalta> ok :)
07:27:03 <jftalta> I'm overloaded to ;)
07:27:08 <ianychoi> :)
07:27:16 <eumel8> I think, Class: zanata::mysql is the right place to implement a backup solution
07:27:56 <eumel8> is there any disc space attached? that would be  the next question :)
07:28:41 <ianychoi> I see. Hmm, I do not know how infra server specs (e.g., CPU size, memory size, number of disks, ...) are specified and changed
07:28:47 <ianychoi> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-zanata-test-for-translate-dev
07:28:49 <ianychoi> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-zanata-test-for-translate-dev
07:29:33 <ianychoi> I have completed all the tests and the one problem I have found is.. Zanata with Xenial (Java 8) needs more memory
07:29:42 <jftalta> with mysqldump ?
07:30:11 <ianychoi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-January/002643.html
07:30:24 <eumel8> there is a class mysql::backup. I think it's with mysqldump
07:30:42 <jftalta> ok
07:30:58 <ianychoi> I replied this e-mail to aeng and clarkb . I think I need to ask them again with such specs
07:31:20 <ianychoi> eumel8, then, we might need to download the backups if needed?
07:31:23 <eumel8> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-mysql/tree/master/manifests/backup
07:31:27 <eumel8> some option
07:31:34 <ianychoi> for anyone? or just admins would be sufficient?
07:32:31 <eumel8> ianychoi: which target? I think there is no archive service in openstack infra or something like that
07:32:54 <ianychoi> #link http://tarballs.openstack.org/
07:32:56 <ianychoi> Maybe this?
07:33:03 <jftalta> my connection is pretty bad, sorry
07:33:48 <eumel8> I think there are confidential data in the backup
07:34:09 <ianychoi> Okay... I see :)
07:34:26 <eumel8> but doing the backup is the first step
07:35:11 <jftalta> confidential data ?
07:35:31 <ianychoi> jftalta, might be... some openstackid tokens?
07:35:34 <ianychoi> I am not sure..
07:35:54 <eumel8> yes
07:36:13 <eumel8> it's to investigate
07:36:26 <eumel8> maybe we get access to the test server
07:36:31 <ianychoi> Yep.. good action items :)
07:37:06 <ianychoi> eumel8, then could you help improve puppet scripts?
07:37:55 <eumel8> i can write a backup solution, yes
07:38:14 <ianychoi> yep good :)
07:38:55 <ianychoi> And.. one thing: smarcet, who is a developer for openstackid wants to test newer version of openstackid-dev with translate-dev
07:39:01 <jftalta> eumel8: great, thx !
07:39:21 <eumel8> ok
07:39:36 <ianychoi> Since more things need to do, I think temporally change from openstackid to openstackid-dev for a week would be needed
07:39:49 <ianychoi> At that time, we will not log on to translate-dev
07:39:58 <ianychoi> Would it be fine to all?
07:40:23 <eumel8> yes, ok
07:40:26 <ianychoi> translate-dev has two purposes: test with infra and also test with users :)
07:40:42 <jftalta> ok
07:41:50 <ianychoi> #action ianychoi will ask to clarkb for temporal change to openstackid-dev and also changing server specs (memory size, disk) with root access for translate-dev
07:43:14 <ianychoi> #topic Discussing core reviewers with language teams
07:43:58 <ianychoi> adiantum, are you online now? :)
07:44:30 <adiantum> ianychoi, yes, i'm here
07:44:44 <jftalta> adiantum: hi
07:44:54 <eumel8> adiantum: hi
07:45:02 <adiantum> hi all!
07:45:03 <ianychoi> adiantum, wow good :) Now i18n IRC meeting is online :)
07:45:25 <adiantum> great! =)
07:45:54 <ianychoi> Actually this topic is for how we make more discussions with core reviewers and also language teams
07:46:40 <ianychoi> In my opinion, active language teams propose core reviewers.
07:47:16 <adiantum> ianychoi, in my opinion, great idea.
07:47:34 <jftalta> +1
07:48:35 <eumel8> +1
07:49:10 <ianychoi> And... I would like to change some sort of a form of i18n team governance... It means that doc team has specialty teams.
07:49:34 <ianychoi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-December/009389.html
07:50:20 <ianychoi> I always appreciate such report from Docs, and I think we can start to publish similar reports if language teams give feedback to me :)
07:51:04 <jftalta> I see. Another good idea :)
07:51:05 <eumel8> good idea
07:51:24 <adiantum> yep, good idea
07:51:41 <adiantum> how offten will we make this kind of reports?
07:51:46 <ianychoi> Thanks all for kind agreements.
07:52:10 <ianychoi> adiantum, good question: I have thought  once a month
07:52:47 <adiantum> ianychoi, great!
07:53:20 <eumel8> weekly would be better in hot phases
07:54:02 <jftalta> one a month is enough, actually. +1
07:55:11 <ianychoi> eumel8, I have thought once a month since 1) Docs team shared it previously once a week but changed to bi-weekly and 2) I want local translators communicate more at least once a month and I would like to reflect their discussions and thoughts
07:55:32 <eumel8> in normal phases yes, but I think in the weeks before releases are more activities to report
07:55:38 <ianychoi> For local translators and/or coordinators, once a week would be a pressure..
07:55:56 <eumel8> ianychoi: yes :)
07:56:28 <ianychoi> eumel8, aha that's good idea. Then I think a kind of release manager for especially between Soft to Hard StringFreze would be needed
07:56:58 <eumel8> evil, I know, I'm currently not a coordinator ;)
07:57:12 <adiantum> eumel8, more activities, but more work and less time to report =)
07:58:06 <adiantum> eumel8, but anyway good idea =) may be biweekly will be fine?
07:58:20 <ianychoi> Hmm... are you interested in being a release manager for Ocata cycle: eumel8 jftalta and adiantum ?
07:58:26 <eumel8> I think Zanata has some options for coordinator role for reports
07:58:44 <ianychoi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-November/009345.html
07:59:09 <ianychoi> Similar to release manager, I18n team might needs StringFreeze managers :)
07:59:33 <ianychoi> eumel8, oh really? Zanata support such functionality?
07:59:43 <eumel8> so much work ... have to think about it.
07:59:56 <eumel8> meeting time is over
08:00:14 <ianychoi> Yep.. could you all move to #openstack-i18n channel if it is fine?
08:00:26 <ianychoi> Thank you all: eumel8 jftalta and adiantum !
08:00:29 <adiantum> ianychoi: yep
08:00:35 <ianychoi> #endmeeting