13:10:06 <eumel8> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting
13:10:07 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 31 13:10:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:10:10 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'
13:10:20 <ianychoi_phone> eumel8: thank u :)
13:10:36 <eumel8> welcome to the I18n meeting. We have jpich and ianychoi on the way
13:11:09 <jpich> o/
13:11:30 <ianychoi_phone> o/
13:11:30 * tosky is lurking
13:11:42 <eumel8> #info PIKE is released yesterday!
13:11:51 <ianychoi_phone> +1
13:11:55 <eumel8> #link https://twitter.com/sparkycollier/status/902931011679514624
13:12:22 <jpich> Woohoo!
13:12:35 <ianychoi_phone> Hooray!
13:12:35 <eumel8> message from sparkycollier :)
13:12:49 <jpich> Two more weeks to go for us cycle-trailing projects, but congratulations to the team and everyone else :D
13:13:06 <eumel8> I want to thank all translators and contributors on this way
13:13:28 <eumel8> We have a great new version of openstack made
13:13:58 <eumel8> Special thanks of course to ianychoi as the PTL in Pike and the cycle before!
13:14:22 <jpich> \o/
13:14:32 <eumel8> #topic Status Pike release (final release week https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html)
13:14:47 <ianychoi_phone> It's my great pleasure! Now we are in Queens starting cycle with eumel8 PTL
13:15:04 <eumel8> hahaha :)
13:15:19 <eumel8> hopefully sucessful in the same way
13:16:11 <eumel8> okay, we have most of the projects in stable/pike branch now in Zanata
13:16:34 <eumel8> collected in the Pike Translation Board (what a great idea!)
13:17:56 <eumel8> from my knowledge we leave it still in stable/branch and merge a week later to master
13:18:26 <eumel8> hopefully ianychoi can do this or advice me ;)
13:19:52 <jpich> For the regular projects, sounds good to me! For cycle-trailing better to wait a bit longer, probably until I18N liaison let you know
13:20:20 <ianychoi__> +1
13:20:38 <eumel8> jpich: okay, I think we will wait.
13:20:55 <ianychoi> (Arrived at home)
13:20:56 <eumel8> Or we do this during PTG, which is only one week left!
13:20:57 <jpich> Thanks! I can let you know when tripleo-ui is ready :)
13:21:08 <eumel8> ianychoi: welcome back!
13:21:19 <eumel8> we're talking about after release
13:21:29 <ianychoi> jpich, when tripleo-ui is supposed to have stable/pike (expected)?
13:21:37 <jpich> I think TripleO will be released during the PTG only, I expect some translations to also come after for a little while
13:21:38 <eumel8> and branch merging in zanata
13:21:53 <ianychoi> Aha good - thanks a lot :)
13:22:05 <jpich> ianychoi: stable/pike, we have (we are in RC period now) - eumel8 kindly created the matching zanata branch
13:22:36 <ianychoi> jpich, great! eumel8! tripleo-ui is also in the infra sync list?
13:22:38 <eumel8> jpich: okay, then we're talking during PTG further
13:23:01 <jpich> for the release, we expect PTG week at the moment. I think some translators will translate that week as well so I would like to wait a bit before the translation merge back into master, if that's alright
13:23:41 <eumel8> ianychoi: yes, it's merged. Should we set the master branch foru tripleo read-only in Zanata or how it will doing?
13:23:46 <ianychoi> IMO, we can also merge from stable-pike to master version in Zanata to reflect new translations from stable branches
13:24:00 <ianychoi> I think during or after PTG would be the best
13:24:29 <ianychoi> eumel8, now should.. :) But.. would you slightly edit Zanata home wiki - translate.o.o to reflect current priority?
13:24:36 <ianychoi> s/now/not
13:25:11 <eumel8> ianychoi: good idea, thx. Are there more projects affected?
13:25:32 <ianychoi> eumel8, IMO all stable-pike versions would be fine
13:26:15 <eumel8> my impression is someone would translate in master branch again.
13:26:33 <eumel8> that's for me not so 100% clear
13:26:59 <ianychoi> Yep.. merge would solve to reflect translations to master branch
13:27:43 <eumel8> Okay, I would announce this on t.o.o und maybe on ml
13:27:58 <ianychoi> Thank u :)
13:28:18 <eumel8> next topic? We're a little out of time :)
13:28:47 <ianychoi> +1
13:28:50 <eumel8> #topic Status of doc migration - no branching anymore, pick out version specific docs #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking
13:29:13 <eumel8> #topic Status of doc migration - no branching anymore, pick out version specific docs
13:29:27 <eumel8> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking
13:29:31 <eumel8> so it's better
13:29:54 <eumel8> there are some changes for the doc translation
13:30:30 <eumel8> from my understanding it would be easier in the future to handle doc translation because there is only one branch anymore.
13:31:59 <eumel8> we would discuss this in detail during PTG because there are much more changes in responsibility of documents
13:32:33 <ianychoi> Yes - for openstack-manuals repository
13:32:51 <ianychoi> However, install tutorial is now composed of openstack-manuals + project repositories
13:33:21 <ianychoi> It implies that translated documentation builds need to reflect such nature of distributed repositories
13:34:00 <eumel8> for this reasons I would announce on openstack-dev after the meeting our presence during PTG for further questions.
13:34:01 <ianychoi> Also, I am not still sure, but we can try to support migrated documentation translation if translators want (e.g., networking-guide -> admin-guide in neutron repo(
13:36:31 <eumel8> for me it's also not 100% clear
13:36:58 <ianychoi> :)
13:38:37 <eumel8> but there are a lot's of links from the doc team about this
13:38:55 <eumel8> I would mention this in the next topic
13:39:06 <ianychoi> Hmm, asking thoughts through mailing-list would be a good idea.
13:39:11 <ianychoi> Next topic +1
13:39:25 <eumel8> #topic Update PTG planning
13:39:45 <eumel8> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-queens
13:40:59 <eumel8> We have a new etherpad for the PTG, based on ianychoi's proposal and developed together with pkovar, the new PTL of the doc team
13:41:52 <eumel8> We are in the same room and work closely together.
13:42:48 <ianychoi> So nice!
13:43:02 <eumel8> There are a lot's of interesting stuff from the doc team during the whole week.
13:43:40 <eumel8> our goals is installation of translation check site and preparing zanata upgrade 4.0
13:43:45 <ianychoi> I think so. Many teams would be interested in how to document their projects a lot
13:43:51 <ianychoi> Agreed
13:44:14 <eumel8> At the end we will have also our translation prios for Queens.
13:45:43 <ianychoi> Yep
13:46:25 <ianychoi> One note that I don't have a good idea how to handle translation priorities for stable-pike documents
13:46:40 <ianychoi> I think there might be no stable-pike documents AFAIK
13:47:46 <eumel8> ianychoi: dunno, have to double check on zanata
13:48:06 <eumel8> my first thinking we have only master
13:48:55 <ianychoi> Now I think so because I have heard that there will be no stable/pike branch for openstack-manuals repository
13:49:18 <eumel8> yes
13:49:59 <eumel8> on the other hand: if the documents are later located in the project repos, it will be.
13:51:05 <ianychoi> Yep.. :)
13:51:48 <eumel8> thrilling
13:52:00 <ianychoi> Haha
13:52:07 <ianychoi> Then open discussions?
13:52:17 <eumel8> #topic Open Discussions
13:53:03 <ianychoi> I have heard that the submission due of project updates (e.g., I18n project updates) for Sydney Summit is Sep 29
13:53:53 <eumel8> really? I think it's next week Tuesday.
13:54:22 <eumel8> Sep 5
13:54:24 <ianychoi> September - about 4 weeks :)
13:54:58 <eumel8> I'm still not sure if I will travel to Sydney.
13:54:59 <ianychoi> eumel8, I forwarded one e-mail to u
13:55:05 <ianychoi> Hmm.. I see
13:55:46 <eumel8> ianychoi: There was a new email for the Queens PTLs
13:56:27 <eumel8> At the PTG there is a possibility to hold a video session for project retrospektive and plans.
13:57:02 <eumel8> I tend more to use this as the 28000 miles travel tour :)
13:58:29 <ianychoi> I really want to go. However, my environment is unfortunately not good now to go to Sydney
13:58:59 <ianychoi> Thanks a lot today - eumel8 and jpich ! :)
13:59:00 <eumel8> okay, time is still over
13:59:10 <jpich> thanks!
13:59:33 <eumel8> thx to all for participating and let's celebrate the Pike release for the rest of the day!
13:59:51 <eumel8> have a nice day/evening :)
13:59:59 <eumel8> #endmeeting